Trudeau's Liberals could lose as many as twenty one rural seats to the Concservatives on the gun buy back program alone.

Pierre Pollivere shows how to handle prog media while eating an apple.
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Quote from: Herman on October 17, 2023, 10:12:44 PMPierre Pollivere shows how to handle prog media while eating an apple.
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Trudeau and the Liberal friendly media haven't been susccessful in trying to negatively label PP. He is too smart to let anybody do that.

I can't recall the source, but I saw a favourability rating for Trudeau and Pollivere. Trudeau now has a -24 favourability rating while Pollivere is +8.

Gaddamn that old Pollivere is good.

Quote from: Herman on November 29, 2023, 11:13:01 PMGaddamn that old Pollivere is good.

I saw that. That was savage.

He is no Andrew Scheer or Erin O'Foole. This guy is a real leader with fire in his belly. He can out campaign Trudeau any day of the week.

Quote from: Herman on November 29, 2023, 11:13:01 PMGaddamn that old Pollivere is good.

You can really see the dishonestybandblies out of that supposed "journalist".

Quote from: Oerdin on December 01, 2023, 08:07:10 PMYou can really see the dishonestybandblies out of that supposed "journalist".

And on former leaders of that party, it might have worked. Not on old Pollivere. They call him the pitbull of parliament for a reason.

Pierre Pollivere is no Trump or Geert Wilders type populist.

The Liberals have been working to draw a parallel between Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre and former U.S. President Donald Trump's "MAGA" populist politics, to limited effect.

The talk of Pierre Poilievre being a populist is really exaggerated and overblown. I think he's moderately conservative. He just happens to be more aggressive in the way that he communicates but there's nothing out of the ordinary about Poilievre's political views. They're all recognizably conservative within a Canadian context.

Poilievre isn't an all-out populist, because this is more of an anti-incumbent moment than a populist moment. Simply holding Liberal feet to the fire, a job Poilievre relishes, could be enough to win an election.

A general trend towards stability during the COVID-19 pandemic, which benefited the incumbent governments in most western countries, has seen a stark reversal while most of the world confronts high inflation that has squeezed household budgets.

A recent poll by Ipsos found that three in four Canadians want Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to step down, while his Liberal party trails Poilievre's Conservatives badly in the polls.

While I certainly agree that Canada needs a new leader & direction & that Trudeau should step down, Im not enthusiastic about Pollivere either.

Something about that guy bugs me.

If its a conservative id prefer a more mature, experienced and more stable personality.

The Conservatives seem to be making the same mistake the Liberals have. They want somebody telegenic charismatic. Essentially they want their own version if Trudeau.

Im leaning none of the above next election

Quote from: JOE on December 08, 2023, 01:03:49 PMWhile I certainly agree that Canada needs a new leader & direction & that Trudeau should step down, Im not enthusiastic about Pollivere either.

Something about that guy bugs me.

If its a conservative id prefer a more mature, experienced and more stable personality.

The Conservatives seem to be making the same mistake the Liberals have. They want somebody telegenic charismatic. Essentially they want their own version if Trudeau.

Im leaning none of the above next election

All about the person, and not the policy.

You should not be allowed to vote, Senile Joe.

Quote from: TheProwler on December 08, 2023, 06:04:48 PMAll about the person, and not the policy.

You should not be allowed to vote, Senile Joe.

Anybody who votes that way should not be allowed to vote.

I saw Trudeau's Christmas day interview online.

When it comes to understanding his opposition, Justin Trudeau has revealed he holds a cartoon caricature view of the Conservative Party. That's one of the main takeaways from Trudeau's year-end conversation with his longtime friend and former radio host Terry DiMonte.

Trudeau showed his weakness in how he views Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives. He describes them as angry, as conniving, as a dark force on the political landscape.

When he wasn't comparing them to Donald Trump with his free use of "MAGA Conservatives" he was making claims that simply aren't based in reality.

"The Conservatives will bring us back to the 50s. Bring us back to drill, baby, drill, ignore climate change, bring us back to father is the head of the household and women don't get abortions unless they have a note from their husband," Trudeau said.

You can love Poilievre and the Conservatives or hate them, but your viewpoint on who they are should be based on facts.


Several times, Trudeau accused the Conservatives of importing political tactics from the United States. He also said the Conservatives like to make people angry and gun up the mob to play on fear and emotions as a way to mobilize them.

"The simplification and the dumbing down of politics to emotional knee jerk reactions is good to mobilize and get people outraged," Trudeau said while also stating that this kind of tactic doesn't help build consensus.

What's interesting about all of this is that Trudeau is dumbing down the political discussion about his opponents. He isn't being honest about what the Conservatives believe or what they are proposing, he is inventing his own warped image of them, projecting other ideas onto them to demonize them so that he can whip up his own base.

n some ways, this is hardly surprising, it's what politicians do, and Trudeau has made clear that he intends on running against Donald Trump instead of Pierre Poilievre. In 2024, Trudeau will try to scare Canadians into believing that if he isn't left in charge, Trump will effectively be running Canada after the next election.

Yet, it is surprising that Trudeau is going down this path because earlier in the interview, he acknowledged that it didn't work for the Liberals in the past.

"Liberals made a huge mistake in the years following the 2006 loss to Stephen Harper, in that so many liberals didn't like him so viscerally that it clouded their judgment in a whole bunch of different ways," Trudeau said.

Trudeau said that most Canadians didn't see Harper as a bad person, but Liberals were running around screaming that he was.  The Liberal Party of 2006-2009 said that Harper was Bush's puppet even though, governance wise they weren't even similar.

In a new 15-minute video posted to 'X' on Wednesday, Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre argues Canada is facing a potential debt bomb with catastrophic economic and social consequences for Canadians.

In the new video, Poilievre describes Canada's total combined debt of $10.2 trillion — the sum of all household, corporate and government debt, or $255,000 per person and almost $620,000 per household — as more than 3.5 times the size of Canada's Gross Domestic Product.

He says that's higher than in the U.S. during the subprime mortgage housing crisis that led to the 2008 global economic crash, higher than during Greece's debt crisis in 2009 and higher than 45 of the 48 biggest debt crises globally in the last century.

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