Once the violence and intimidation started it ceased being a ""peaceful"" protest and a viable means to articulate positions on a matter
unless you are of the mindset this should be happening to innocent students.
https://www.instagram.com/community.news/reel/C6aO-Q2tjjY/
https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/university-protests-gaza-05-01-24/index.html
Columbia University president said in a letter the "drastic escalation" of protests pushed school "to the brink"
Of course it did you dumb fuck. You showed these entitled little brats weakness and they ran the ball into the endzone because they perceived there would be no resistance or consequence for their actions. So I make the argument that you bring more harm to EVERYONE, including the protestors, when you show them weakness and allow this type of shit on any level.
So this is what an Ivy League education brings you? The basic common sense of a cantaloupe ?
How many innocent people who have NOTHING to do with this conflict have to be hurt, intimidated, harassed and denied expensive services they are paying for to placate terrorism lite?
Put me in charge of one of these schools. Police would have been out there MINUTE FUCKING ONE to put these fucking bratty ass cocksuckers in their place. And if not them, then a for hire security company. But there is no way in the fucking world this type of shit would be tolerated on my watch.
you don't like the fact that the school has financial ties elements in Isreal? Take your money elsewhere, stage a boycott, petition your representatives to apply finanical pressure... but the minute you harass an innocent person you cease to have any dialogue with me and I will fucking shut you the fuck down. So help me god.
fucking brats
GASS EM LIKE JOOOOOZ!!!!!!
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 01, 2024, 12:45:23 PMOnce the violence and intimidation started it ceased being a ""peaceful"" protest and a viable means to articulate positions on a matter
unless you are of the mindset this should be happening to innocent students.
https://www.instagram.com/community.news/reel/C6aO-Q2tjjY/
https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/university-protests-gaza-05-01-24/index.html
I watched the Instagram and thought:
"That would be awesome to show up with my 10ga over/under loaded with OO Buck and pull 1 trigger to see how many of them fuckers I could drop at once!"
I'd approach from a sharp angle to them. I almost bet a single shell would kill at least 5 from about 30 feet away. But thats the great part, I wouldnt have to worry about getting so close to them with a breach open shot gun that they could disarm me.
On second thought, I think even 50 or 60 feet would do!
Quote from: Lokmar on May 01, 2024, 01:16:36 PMI watched the Instagram and thought:
"That would be awesome to show up with my 10ga over/under loaded with OO Buck and pull 1 trigger to see how many of them fuckers I could drop at once!"
I'd approach from a sharp angle to them. I almost bet a single shell would kill at least 5 from about 30 feet away. But thats the great part, I wouldnt have to worry about getting so close to them with a breach open shot gun that they could disarm me.
it disgusted me the way they intimidated that kid. And THIS is the student debt US taxpayers are burdened with so these animals can pull this shit during their time racking up that debt?
repulsive.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 01, 2024, 01:20:23 PMit disgusted me the way they intimidated that kid. And THIS is the student debt US taxpayers are burdened with so these animals can pull this shit during their time racking up that debt?
repulsive.
Eventually there will be a full scale confrontation with these cunts. Its unavoidable.
LOL! I just looked at a box of the 10ga OO Buck....fucker has 18 pellets! 12ga only has 9!!!!!!! I'm thinking 100 feet now!!! :crampe:
George Soros and his Open Society Foundations have poured untold millions into pro Palestinian, anti-American groups. We're seeing the results on college campuses across the States. He has money into groups and individuals that reject the existence of Israel.
The campus "occupations" are reminiscent of Kyiv's Maidan Square encampment in the winter of 2004-2005, when Soros helped fund the Orange Revolution. He also supported the 2014 demonstrations of the Maidan Revolution, for which he was awarded Ukraine's Order of Freedom by the Ukrainian president he helped elect, Petro Poroshenko.
Soros has been funding, directly and indirectly — and apparently with the acquiescence of U.S. administrations — Israeli-Jewish and Israeli-Arab leftist groups, as well as media outlets, that oppose Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
That's in addition to his generous funding of Palestinian-led groups, along with pro-Palestinian Jewish, Christian, and Muslim organizations that promote boycotts, divestments, and sanctions against Israel. Among the many groups Soros funds include Students for Justice in Palestine and the U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights, which are spearheading violent demonstrations on college and university campuses.
Quote from: Brent on May 01, 2024, 01:32:57 PMGeorge Soros and his Open Society Foundations have poured untold millions into pro Palestinian, anti-American groups. We're seeing the results on college campuses across the States. He has money into groups and individuals that reject the existence of Israel.
The campus "occupations" are reminiscent of Kyiv's Maidan Square encampment in the winter of 2004-2005, when Soros helped fund the Orange Revolution. He also supported the 2014 demonstrations of the Maidan Revolution, for which he was awarded Ukraine's Order of Freedom by the Ukrainian president he helped elect, Petro Poroshenko.
Soros has been funding, directly and indirectly — and apparently with the acquiescence of U.S. administrations — Israeli-Jewish and Israeli-Arab leftist groups, as well as media outlets, that oppose Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
That's in addition to his generous funding of Palestinian-led groups, along with pro-Palestinian Jewish, Christian, and Muslim organizations that promote boycotts, divestments, and sanctions against Israel. Among the many groups Soros funds include Students for Justice in Palestine and the U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights, which are spearheading violent demonstrations on college and university campuses.
The entire Soros family needs to be drone struck. They've been a terrible influence on our politics.
Quote from: Lokmar on May 01, 2024, 01:34:28 PMThe entire Soros family needs to be drone struck. They've been a terrible influence on our politics.
They have too much influence over the States and Canada.
Quote from: Lokmar on May 01, 2024, 01:28:55 PMEventually there will be a full scale confrontation with these cunts. Its unavoidable.
LOL! I just looked at a box of the 10ga OO Buck....fucker has 18 pellets! 12ga only has 9!!!!!!! I'm thinking 100 feet now!!! :crampe:
Give a libtarded fuckhead an inch today and you'd better be prepared to give them a fucking mile tomorrow
that's how scum like this operates
it's disgusting
democrats will stand idle for shit like this but have the fucking BALLS to call a bunch of redneck hicks in jack boots and suspenders an ""insurrection""? And dole out prison sentences lasting YEARS? you gotta be fucking kidding me
were these people guilty of disturbing the peace, tresspassing, breaking and entry, loitering, disorderly conduct?
absolutely
and hold them accountable for that.
But insurrection? Meanwhile you're willing to support THIS? fucking cockroaches. I swear.
Well so much to say here.
I saw this lol. But that it just a little glimpse of what occupation has been like for the Palestinian people.
But the Jewish student states that the protesters are promoting the hate.
Quote from: Moonie on May 01, 2024, 01:39:45 PMWell so much to say here.
I saw this lol. But that it just a little glimpse of what occupation has been like for the Palestinian people.
But the Jewish student states that the protesters are promoting the hate.
Look lady, I PROMISE YOU when paletrashians pull the shit here like they did in Israel, there's gonna be a shitload of meatgrinding done to them by average joe redneck.
IDGAF about those shitbags in gaza. I've said before, Israel was fucking MORONIC to allow them those 2 pieces of land in the first fucking place!
After all this, I actually hate palestinians and anyone who supports them. They might even be as bad as BLM in my book right now. I'll have to consider it.
Quote from: Moonie on May 01, 2024, 01:39:45 PMWell so much to say here.
I saw this lol. But that it just a little glimpse of what occupation has been like for the Palestinian people.
But the Jewish student states that the protesters are promoting the hate.
Two wrongs do not make a right, Moonie.
THIS is not the way to go about voicing dissent
now, if this kid had some kind of leadership ability in the conflict and could somehow influence the outcome then we'd be having a different conversation. But to my knowledge he doesn't
I dont like what I see in the West Bank any more than you do. Those settlers are lower than animals to me. and if Oct 7th had happened to them I'd be cheering the Palestians there too.
But that's not what happened.
Gaza is a whole different story. Show me where the occupation is in Gaza?
https://youtu.be/QG-7yGkMQGU
Here we have a group of fucking ANIMALS who dragged an innocent girl through the streets in a pickup truck, raped and tortured others in their own homes, shot DOGS in the street for barking at them and burned families alive
and I'm supposed to weep because they CLAIM 10,000 children have died in this conflict at the hands of the Israelis?
We're supposed to take the word of terrorists here? Who have every vested interest in the world to inflate civilian causalities as part of a propaganda war? When time and time again when the facts come to light they are totally contrary to the narrative HAMAS is disseminating?
No -- no fucking way -- I ain't purchasing that bridge for 5 cents let alone 5 dollars. And I certainly wouldn't tolerate these little motherfuckers harassing their fellow students to bring awareness to such propaganda either.
There's a conduit to have your voices heard in this country and harassing innocent people on bridges, highways, schools and in their homes is NOT IT. Period.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 01, 2024, 01:46:33 PMTwo wrongs do not make a right, Moonie.
THIS is not the way to go about voicing dissent
now, if this kid had some kind of leadership ability in the conflict and could somehow influence the outcome then we'd be having a different conversation. But to my knowledge he doesn't
I dont like what I see in the West Bank any more than you do. Those settlers are lower than animals to me. and if Oct 7th had happened to them I'd be cheering the Palestians there too.
But that's not what happened.
Gaza is a whole different story. Show me where the occupation is in Gaza?
Occupation has gone way back. That's another discussion. Gaza has been occupied since the beginning of time. That's why when this all happened I didn't understand how Israel was so shocked and how they didn't know. They know what perfume I'm wearing once I exit the plane there FACT.
The Jewish kid did not deserve that bullshit. I totally agree. The protests happening on campus should be controlled. I haven't had the time to read on everything in this thread. I'm in an audit for work right now.
But its interesting on how these protests are being carried out and how organized they are. Don't you think?
Quote from: Moonie on May 01, 2024, 02:16:04 PMOccupation has gone way back. That's another discussion. Gaza has been occupied since the beginning of time. That's why when this all happened I didn't understand how Israel was so shocked and how they didn't know. They know what perfume I'm wearing once I exit the plane there FACT.
The Jewish kid did not deserve that bullshit. I totally agree. The protests happening on campus should be controlled. I haven't had the time to read on everything in this thread. I'm in an audit for work right now.
But its interesting on how these protests are being carried out and how organized they are. Don't you think?
If I'm not mistaken, the deed to the land was given to Israel by God and for all time. Those ignorant jews cant even technically give their land away because God has decided who it belongs to.
The 2 state solution will always be doomed.
Quote from: Lokmar on May 01, 2024, 02:23:03 PMIf I'm not mistaken, the deed to the land was given to Israel by God and for all time. Those ignorant jews cant even technically give their land away because God has decided who it belongs to.
The 2 state solution will always be doomed.
I'm not here to argue that. I do know that people argue that because it was the old law. There is a new law when Jesus died on the cross and the New Testament came about.
Quote from: Moonie on May 01, 2024, 02:16:04 PMOccupation has gone way back. That's another discussion. Gaza has been occupied since the beginning of time. That's why when this all happened I didn't understand how Israel was so shocked and how they didn't know. They know what perfume I'm wearing once I exit the plane there FACT.
The Jewish kid did not deserve that bullshit. I totally agree. The protests happening on campus should be controlled. I haven't had the time to read on everything in this thread. I'm in an audit for work right now.
But something is interesting on how these protests are being carried out and how organized they are. Don't you think?
Perhaps my history is a little hazy but from what I understand -- vast portions of what is Israel today was mostly uninhabited and scarcely occupied by nomadic tribes who were technically squatting as the land technically belonged to the British empire.
Fast forward to the end of world war two the Brits decide to hand the land over to the Israelis to bring back the jews to their homeland.
notice how I don't go back to the fact that God gave them this land? I don't buy into such bullocks either. God abandoned Israel long ago. That land isn't theres because of God, it's there's because the group who owned it previously gave it to them. that's totally appropriate.
I own 2 acres of land right now and if I so choose I can donate 1 acre of that land to anyone I choose. Regardless if some Seminole Indian thinks it's his or not. it's mine. I have the title to it and I do with it what I please. So if the Palestinians had a beef they should have taken up said beef with the British.
Now, fast forward again to the 6 day war. Several countries attacked them first did they not? And they managed to push these aggressors back did they not? Thus extending their own borders deep into the aggressor territory. And now what? They are supposed to just hand all that territory back? (which they did because most of their leadership are spineless jellyfish)
So, regardless of who or who is not adversely affected Israel EARNED that land and paid for it with the blood of their brave young men and women. If it were me I would have told all of the inhabitants of areas I was FORCED to occupy through the defense of myself that they need to go fuck themselves, choose better leadership or develop a stronger military. You attacked me, I pushed you back and you can get fucked if you want back what I've taken. It's mine now. Attack again and we'll see if I don't push even further into your territory and tell you to get fucked once again if you don't like it.
but see, that's me, I don't fuck around with people because I understand fully that violence is a language EVERYONE understands. It's regrettable but it is an unfortunate fact of life.
Quote from: Moonie on May 01, 2024, 02:28:43 PMI'm not here to argue that. I do know that people argue that because it was the old law. There is a new law when Jesus died on the cross and the New Testament came about.
In no way shape or form did Jesus negate the deed to the land of Israel. It plainly states in God's promise to Abraham in the Old Testament that the deed would be theirs for all times, even if they got tossed off the land as they did by violating the Covenant. There is also a promise that the Jews would be gathered into the land again, never to be displaced again, in end time prophecy. Further, it is prophecy that the entire world will come against Israel. I never in my lifetime thought America would turn against Israel until recently.
Jesus has no relevance in the matter of what people hold the deed to Israel, i.e. ALL OF IT. However, replacement theologists do teach that the Church replaced Israel and its irrelevant now. I have no respect for this evil doctrine.
I always thought the promised land was actually North America because Jesus was a space alien and ascended to his spaceship to beam the Jews over there but Scotty took the week off so Jesus went to Bajor and became their god but then the Cardassians came and blew up the place and Jesus never made it back to Earth and then the Europeans took the continent before the Jews could.
The next time you see a Cardassian be sure to give them a nice big thank you.
(https://i.imgur.com/YWl6YHs.jpg)
Watch this video by Odin's Men. It's only five minutes.
https://rumble.com/v4sgxf5-left-on-left-hate-by-liberal-hitler-youth.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Odins%20Men
Quote from: Lokmar on May 01, 2024, 03:37:40 PMIn no way shape or form did Jesus negate the deed to the land of Israel. It plainly states in God's promise to Abraham in the Old Testament that the deed would be theirs for all times, even if they got tossed off the land as they did by violating the Covenant. There is also a promise that the Jews would be gathered into the land again, never to be displaced again, in end time prophecy. Further, it is prophecy that the entire world will come against Israel. I never in my lifetime thought America would turn against Israel until recently.
Jesus has no relevance in the matter of what people hold the deed to Israel, i.e. ALL OF IT. However, replacement theologists do teach that the Church replaced Israel and its irrelevant now. I have no respect for this evil doctrine.
Umm Jesus HAS everything to do with this and what is to come. For that reason I choose to stay out of this conflict because I'm like the odd ball of the bunch. My little cousins are the one parading in these protests at some of these colleges. They are Christian. The Christians are believing that the New covenant was created when Jesus came and died on the cross for our sins. The new covenant did not include Israel to be the promise land solely and to kick out the Palestinians. Not only kick out, displace, tap phones in West Bank, need I go further.
So you believe what the majority of Zionist believe. Makes sense. But if I were you I'd be careful with that if you call yourself a Christian.
Personally I do not believe the land belongs to the jews because God gave it to them. That covenant expired long ago and God has turned his back on these people for good reason.
I believe the land is there's because, from the historical documentation I've read, the land was owned by the Brits, occupied by nomadic squatters who basically did nothing with it and didn't become a source of serious contention by surrounding arabs UNTIL the jewish people who migrated there turned it into a thriving metropolis.
Again, if the Brits acquired this land through conquest then it is perfectly acceptable for them to give the land to whomever they choose. Whether or not there were squatters there at the time is inconsequential to me. This is how the jungle of humanity works my friends. It's ugly, it's unfair and it is a never ending paradigm of The strong eating the weak. if you don't like this you have but two options.
a) become strong and stay that way
b) Rest your hopes in God's kingdom and make no illusions that there is any alternative to that kingdom when it comes to fixing this shitty planet.
period.
but pissing and whining and attacking innocent people who have nothing to do with the conflict either way some 10,000 miles away? Nah, I ain't for that kind of ignorant anarchy and I'm 100% behind law enforcement putting down these agents of chaos by any means necessary.
Quote from: Moonie on May 02, 2024, 11:30:42 AMUmm Jesus HAS everything to do with this and what is to come. For that reason I choose to stay out of this conflict because I'm like the odd ball of the bunch. My little cousins are the one parading in these protests at some of these colleges. They are Christian. The Christians are believing that the New covenant was created when Jesus came and died on the cross for our sins. The new covenant did not include Israel to be the promise land solely and to kick out the Palestinians. Not only kick out, displace, tap phones in West Bank, need I go further.
So you believe what the majority of Zionist believe. Makes sense. But if I were you I'd be careful with that if you call yourself a Christian.
Good morning Moonpie.
:s_hi:
take a look at this scene from "the siege"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szNrOdjjhkw&t=8s
yeah it's just a movie but it speaks to the reality of this matter.
the context is that there is a protest in progress on behalf of the Arab/Muslim community and this guy is ready to go blow them up. they are on his fucking side and he has no problems whatsoever inflicting as much pain and misery upon them as he can despite their ignorant allegiance to him and people like him
that tells you everything you know to know about how the mind of a fanatical militant works. And if you truly believe that at least 50% of the population in Gaza isn't infected with this mentality right now then you need to have your own head examined
And who's to blame for that. Solely Israel? Bullshit. Israel isn't the one deep in Gazan territory digging up pipes intended to be used as delivery mechanisms for much needed water and using them as rocket launchers instead. Are they?
Netanyahu isn't living in a luxury hotel in Qatar with over 5 billion in personal finances courtesy of international generosity at the expense of the average Gazan who lives in abject poverty is he? no he isn't. The fucking leader of the terrorist agency TELLING YOU 10,000 babies were slaughtered in airstrikes is.
Shall I go on? Because I most certainly can but I think the point is clear. HAMAS thrives off the suffering of their own people and is a very active and willing partner in it's continued existence. It's called vested.fucking.interest people. it's alive and thriving in that region and is the NUMBER ONE obstacle of lasting peace. Period
Sure it's the israelis doing the bombing. I get that. But it is HAMAS pulling those strings. Isreal is the puppet. Hamas is the puppeteer.
what, are you so fucking stupid to believe that if God snapped his fingers tomorrow and wiped every last jew off that land there would be fucking peace? Are you fucking dumb? This conflict is a cash cow to a wide variety of soulless vermin scum. ON BOTH SIDES. you don't need to take my word for it, just Take a trip over the TheYnc and tell me how many JEWS you see beheading ARABS in those goreish ISIS videos which were ever so popular until Trump took out their leader. What did executing fellow arab/muslims in IRAQ/Transcanistan/Pakistan etc etc have to do with the jews? Were the faggots that are seen thrown off rooftops after having their throats slit colonists of anything but another man's dirty asshole? How about the publicly immolated adulteresses who only commit adultry in the first place because of a backwards and savage culture they are forced to endure. is thatZionism, deep in the heart of Iraqi mountains or just a basic human desire to love and live with whom YOU want to love and live with? Wake the fuck up.
And the list of innocents dying at the hands of their own goes on and on and on. and they didn't just kill these poor people, they devised some of the most gruesome, painful and horrific ways to do it imaginable.
and when I say "YOU" I don't mean you Moonie but you as in a figure of speech to the protestors collectively
I generally despise Jews but I'm not religious or Christian.
I dislike them because they treat non Jews like total shit.
Obviously, I give every individual their just dues.
But the Jews in my life, for the most part, have behaved like self centred nihilistic cunts.... and the women are the worst of them.
Agreed. They are fucking assholes. No arguments there
I can count on one, maybe two hands, the nice ones I've met in my life.
If either side were to gain total and unmitigated power over the world we'd be in serious trouble.
the jews because they believe we are Gentiles
the muslims because they believe we are enemies of Allah if we don't follow their beliefs to the letter.
that's why I say fuck them both. Let them sort their own problems out. But still maintain that Isreal has every right to do whatever they deem necessary to defend themselves from their attackers
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 02, 2024, 12:39:27 PMAgreed. They are fucking assholes. No arguments there
I can count on one, maybe two hands, the nice ones I've met in my life.
If either side were to gain total and unmitigated power over the world we'd be in serious trouble.
the jews because they believe we are Gentiles
the muslims because they believe we are enemies of Allah if we don't follow their beliefs to the letter.
that's why I say fuck them both. Let them sort their own problems out. But still maintain that Isreal has every right to do whatever they deem necessary to defend themselves from their attackers
The only ones I know who have been consistently kind and respectful....Garrety(Vit) and my friend Troy I've known since high school.
Oh and a couple I met in a debate group from Chicago. The woman will actually come to me and ask me to help her understand certain right wing positions better.
She doesn't nessesarily adopt them, but makes an effort to understand them. Which I respect.
Anyone who holds their position genuinely and genuinely cares about it and wants what's good for other humans.
They are more likely to listen and also properly explain why they have the position they have.
The left has otherized people who don't think exactly like them to a frightening degree.
I watched Vitty....who is a leftist, criticize Biden (rightfully) and the other leftists just tore him up yammering about Trump. They will deem anyone with a different view as some evil nazi....so much irony. It gets scary when they justify violence and harassment against their political opponents and even those on their own side who just simply have different thoughts.
These wackos would support Caligula if the other option was Trump.
I bet it would be interesting to see how many people on the left secretly vote Trump.
Quote from: Dove on May 02, 2024, 01:29:08 PMAnyone who holds their position genuinely and genuinely cares about it and wants what's good for other humans.
They are more likely to listen and also properly explain why they have the position they have.
The left has otherized people who don't think exactly like them to a frightening degree.
I watched Vitty....who is a leftist, criticize Biden (rightfully) and the other leftists just tore him up yammering about Trump. They will deem anyone with a different view as some evil nazi....so much irony. It gets scary when they justify violence and harassment against their political opponents and even those on their own side who just simply have different thoughts.
I bet it would be interesting to see how many people on the left secretly vote Trump.
We don't have a working class champion like Trump. I don't trust any political party in Canada. They are all comtrolled by their globalist prog puppeteers.
Quote from: Frood on May 02, 2024, 12:34:06 PMI generally despise Jews but I'm not religious or Christian.
I dislike them because they treat non Jews like total shit.
Obviously, I give every individual their just dues.
But the Jews in my life, for the most part, have behaved like self centred nihilistic cunts.... and the women are the worst of them.
I have a similar opinion of French-Canadians.
Quote from: Dove on May 02, 2024, 01:29:08 PMAnyone who holds their position genuinely and genuinely cares about it and wants what's good for other humans.
They are more likely to listen and also properly explain why they have the position they have.
The left has otherized people who don't think exactly like them to a frightening degree.
I watched Vitty....who is a leftist, criticize Biden (rightfully) and the other leftists just tore him up yammering about Trump. They will deem anyone with a different view as some evil nazi....so much irony. It gets scary when they justify violence and harassment against their political opponents and even those on their own side who just simply have different thoughts.
These wackos would support Caligula if the other option was Trump.
I bet it would be interesting to see how many people on the left secretly vote Trump.
It's like you cannot make any observation, no matter how true, which discredits one of their scared cows without them throwing a completely unhinged hysterical fit.
Do nothing more than post a news article where a man claiming to be a woman rapes a little girl in a bathroom with nothing more than "this is horrible"
no grouping he entire trans community into that statement. No philosophical commentary on whether he is a man or a woman.. no biological jargon either. Just state a fact as it happened and how that fact is disturbing.
and watch as Admong flies off the fucking handle and starts desperately searching for every instance of a an alleged con doing something just as heinous. As if our reaction would be... oh, okay, that pastor in Alabama did that? okay, well, send that trans man back into the bathroom and let him have his way with another little girl.
Fucking spastic cockroach
these rodents cannot be reasoned with on any level.
Quote from: Moonie on May 02, 2024, 11:30:42 AMThe Christians are believing that the New covenant was created when Jesus came and died on the cross for our sins. The new covenant did not include Israel to be the promise land solely and to kick out the Palestinians. Not only kick out, displace, tap phones in West Bank, need I go further.
ISRAEL WOULD have stopped the war had the hostages been returned.
They haven't been returned.
Quote from: Dove on May 02, 2024, 01:29:08 PMAnyone who holds their position genuinely and genuinely cares about it and wants what's good for other humans.
They are more likely to listen and also properly explain why they have the position they have.
The left has otherized people who don't think exactly like them to a frightening degree.
I watched Vitty....who is a leftist, criticize Biden (rightfully) and the other leftists just tore him up yammering about Trump. They will deem anyone with a different view as some evil nazi....so much irony. It gets scary when they justify violence and harassment against their political opponents and even those on their own side who just simply have different thoughts.
These wackos would support Caligula if the other option was Trump.
I bet it would be interesting to see how many people on the left secretly vote Trump.
Different celebs from the UK that lived in California decided to go back to live in England. They cannot stand the law in California where people cannot be prosecuted if they have stolen stuff of less than $1000 in value.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 02, 2024, 11:50:58 AMPersonally I do not believe the land belongs to the jews because God gave it to them. That covenant expired long ago and God has turned his back on these people for good reason.
I believe the land is there's because, from the historical documentation I've read, the land was owned by the Brits, occupied by nomadic squatters who basically did nothing with it and didn't become a source of serious contention by surrounding arabs UNTIL the jewish people who migrated there turned it into a thriving metropolis.
Again, if the Brits acquired this land through conquest then it is perfectly acceptable for them to give the land to whomever they choose. Whether or not there were squatters there at the time is inconsequential to me. This is how the jungle of humanity works my friends. It's ugly, it's unfair and it is a never ending paradigm of The strong eating the weak. if you don't like this you have but two options.
a) become strong and stay that way
b) Rest your hopes in God's kingdom and make no illusions that there is any alternative to that kingdom when it comes to fixing this shitty planet.
period.
but pissing and whining and attacking innocent people who have nothing to do with the conflict either way some 10,000 miles away? Nah, I ain't for that kind of ignorant anarchy and I'm 100% behind law enforcement putting down these agents of chaos by any means necessary.
Honestly too exhausted to even give a F anymore. It's just been too much. Sadly.
The Jewish boy though and those Palestinians. That was a good act. Think about it. I honestly believe these protests are being funded. It makes me think anyway.
Quote from: caskur on May 02, 2024, 04:18:08 PMISRAEL WOULD have stopped the war had the hostages been returned.
They haven't been returned.
I strongly disagree with you on this one.
Quote from: Moonie on May 02, 2024, 04:29:47 PMHonestly too exhausted to even give a F anymore. It's just been too much. Sadly.
The Jewish boy though and those Palestinians. That was a good act. Think about it. I honestly believe these protests are being funded. It makes me think anyway.
It's already been established and proven that there are paid for professional protestors whose charter is to promote anarchy
100%
That video might be a stage but it is certainly a capture of what really going on across the country
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 02, 2024, 04:43:52 PMIt's already been established and proven that there are paid for professional protestors whose charter is to promote anarchy
100%
That video might be a stage but it is certainly a capture of what really going on across the country
So my cousin he's a professor and he's in the hospital with 14 fractures from the cop at the protest because he was taking pics. His wife was arrested trying to defend to help him.
It's a real mess :facepalm:
Quote from: Moonie on May 02, 2024, 11:30:42 AMUmm Jesus HAS everything to do with this and what is to come. For that reason I choose to stay out of this conflict because I'm like the odd ball of the bunch. My little cousins are the one parading in these protests at some of these colleges. They are Christian. The Christians are believing that the New covenant was created when Jesus came and died on the cross for our sins. The new covenant did not include Israel to be the promise land solely and to kick out the Palestinians. Not only kick out, displace, tap phones in West Bank, need I go further.
So you believe what the majority of Zionist believe. Makes sense. But if I were you I'd be careful with that if you call yourself a Christian.
Jesus has NOTHING to do with what was already promised. He cant negate God's promise, period.
Quote from: Oliver the Second on May 01, 2024, 06:58:48 PMI always thought the promised land was actually North America because Jesus was a space alien and ascended to his spaceship to beam the Jews over there but Scotty took the week off so Jesus went to Bajor and became their god but then the Cardassians came and blew up the place and Jesus never made it back to Earth and then the Europeans took the continent before the Jews could.
The next time you see a Cardassian be sure to give them a nice big thank you.
(https://i.imgur.com/YWl6YHs.jpg)
I didnt know you were Mormon!
Quote from: Lokmar on May 02, 2024, 06:28:21 PMJesus has NOTHING to do with what was already promised. He cant negate God's promise, period.
So you don't believe in the gospel.
Okay
Quote from: Moonie on May 02, 2024, 06:32:07 PMSo you don't believe in the gospel.
Okay
I do. Show me where The Abrahamic Covenant was revoked. Show me where Ezekiel 24, Amos 9 and all the other scripture related to ownership of Israel was repealed by Jesus. :popcorn:
Quote from: Lokmar on May 02, 2024, 06:39:24 PMI do. Show me where The Abrahamic Covenant was revoked. Show me where Ezekiel 24, Amos 9 and all the other scripture related to ownership of Israel was repealed by Jesus. :popcorn:
I can't argue the Old Testament and God and how he carried out the prophets. He did what he did so he could point to most important thing his son Jesus.
Jesus is the new covenant with Christianity. He's missing in Israel. So the Christian PALESTINIANS consider the New Testament holy ground.
They want their holy ground protected from hate just like the Jews do. Sadly they are the minority and the Jews are treating them just like the rest. Fact.
Quote from: Moonie on May 02, 2024, 07:24:29 PMI can't argue the Old Testament and God and how he carried out the prophets. He did what he did so he could point to most important thing his son Jesus.
Jesus is the new covenant with Christianity. He's missing in Israel. So the Christian PALESTINIANS consider the New Testament holy ground.
They want their holy ground protected from hate just like the Jews do. Sadly they are the minority and the Jews are treating them just like the rest. Fact.
Simply put, there is NOTHING Jesus did to negate ownership of the land or the promises associated with it.
Jim Crow Joe wants to accept Palestinian "refugees" and place them in your town.
what amazes me is that 80% or more of the idiots protesting on behalf of HAMAS would be considered detestable heathens by HAMAS and executed
fucking morons
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 03, 2024, 12:13:46 AMwhat amazes me is that 80% or more of the idiots protesting on behalf of HAMAS would be considered detestable heathens by HAMAS and executed
fucking morons
Eggs ackly!!
Quote from: Lokmar on May 02, 2024, 06:39:24 PMI do. Show me where The Abrahamic Covenant was revoked. Show me where Ezekiel 24, Amos 9 and all the other scripture related to ownership of Israel was repealed by Jesus. :popcorn:
According to the Bible, Jesus IS God. And Covenant wasn't revoked, it was fulfilled. Christ said this.
The requirements being fulfilled is not the same as revoked. But no human being can possibly meet the requirements.
We are literally born broken, sinful garbage. We can't meet holy standards. That's the entire point of the Gospel
God gave the law to show us how bad we are. Like a mirror.
Quote from: Dove on May 03, 2024, 02:03:21 PMAccording to the Bible, Jesus IS God. And Covenant wasn't revoked, it was fulfilled. Christ said this.
The requirements being fulfilled is not the same as revoked. But no human being can possibly meet the requirements.
We are literally born broken, sinful garbage. We can't meet holy standards. That's the entire point of the Gospel
God gave the law to show us how bad we are. Like a mirror.
Jesus is the son of God. Not God himself.
No such thing as a Trinity. That doctrine is about as stupid as the idea that we live on a spinning pizza
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 03, 2024, 02:26:07 PMJesus is the son of God. Not God himself.
No such thing as a Trinity. That doctrine is about as stupid as the idea that we live on a spinning pizza
It's true the bible doesn't mention the trinity. But, there are lots of references to the three persons of God.
Quote from: Brent on May 03, 2024, 03:04:32 PMIt's true the bible doesn't mention the trinity. But, there are lots of references to the three persons of God.
Would a loving and fair God not be explicit as to his own identity ?
especially when he makes it a crime punishable by death to 'place any gods before me'
Which is essentially what you are doing when you place ANYONE. Including his most beloved son on an equal footing.
no.
I believe he is very explicit and forthcoming in his self description and it is as follows
Jehovah/Yahweh = The father. Supreme Being. Alpha and Omega
Jesus Christ = the firstborn son of God. The Arch angel. The word. the Lamb
OF God.
The holy spirit = not even a person but rather the spirit of God. His active force. The force which he uses to bring all things into existence.
anything else is a loosely strung together theory as to what the bible means when it speaks of these three identities.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 03, 2024, 03:29:10 PMWould a loving and fair God not be explicit as to his own identity ?
especially when he makes it a crime punishable by death to 'place any gods before me'
Which is essentially what you are doing when you place ANYONE. Including his most beloved son on an equal footing.
no.
I believe he is very explicit and forthcoming in his self description and it is as follows
Jehovah/Yahweh = The father. Supreme Being. Alpha and Omega
Jesus Christ = the firstborn son of God. The Arch angel. The word. the Lamb OF God.
The holy spirit = not even a person but rather the spirit of God. His active force. The force which he uses to bring all things into existence.
anything else is a loosely strung together theory as to what the bible means when it speaks of these three identities.
Some passages ages indicate that "the Son" is God and yet other passages indicate that "the Spirit" is God.
Quote from: Dove on May 03, 2024, 02:03:21 PMAccording to the Bible, Jesus IS God. And Covenant wasn't revoked, it was fulfilled. Christ said this.
The requirements being fulfilled is not the same as revoked. But no human being can possibly meet the requirements.
We are literally born broken, sinful garbage. We can't meet holy standards. That's the entire point of the Gospel
God gave the law to show us how bad we are. Like a mirror.
The Mosaic Covenant has nothing to do with the promise of the land for all times to the rightful heirs of Abraham. Jesus had nothing to do with any fulfillment of the land deed.
I am strictly referring to the land deed, nothing else.
Quote from: Dove on May 03, 2024, 02:03:21 PMWe are literally born broken, sinful garbage. We can't meet holy standards. That's the entire point of the Gospel
God gave the law to show us how bad we are. Like a mirror.
I don't really agree with you Dove
I think those in power made up many laws to consolidate power
Ie - I dont think strippers or prostitutes are bad. They jes made up laws labeling them as such because they wanna control women.
Quote from: Dove on May 03, 2024, 02:03:21 PMWe are literally born broken, sinful garbage. We can't meet holy standards.
Well yeah but isn't that kinda Gods fault since he created us?
The New York Post reported that one of the most violent leaders at the Columbia University riots has a lot of experience as an agitator. He is also the son of millionaire ad executives who happens to live in a $3.4 million Brooklyn brownstone home.
James Carlson, also known as Cody Carlson, is a longtime anarchist, according to the authorities. He also reportedly has a child with a model and his stepmother is currently dating John Cougar Mellencamp.
Quote from: Oliver the Second on May 04, 2024, 01:43:08 PMWell yeah but isn't that kinda Gods fault since he created us?
Just like animals kill destroy and eat other animals, humans do the same thing to humans.
So God doesn't create us broken, but humans are pretty capable of making other humans 'broken' I'm afraid.
If people end up 'broken', it's not always their fault.
someone else might have done it to them - like make Wars such as Putin invading the Ukraine.
Quote from: Lokmar on May 02, 2024, 10:57:05 PMSimply put, there is NOTHING Jesus did to negate ownership of the land or the promises associated with it.
Honestly, I am not God so I don't know. I think what's going on sucks to the core. I hate it. It's just hard right now. Protests and getting injured isn't going to make things change.
Quote from: Moonie on May 05, 2024, 07:43:28 AMHonestly, I am not God so I don't know. I think what's going on sucks to the core. I hate it. It's just hard right now. Protests and getting injured isn't going to make things change.
Not God? All you have to do is read the Bible. As a matter of fact, everything is happening exactly as according to scripture.
I bet there will be some really puzzled assholes when even the US turns against Israel and yet Israel survives.
Quote from: Lokmar on May 05, 2024, 03:41:05 PMNot God? All you have to do is read the Bible. As a matter of fact, everything is happening exactly as according to scripture.
I bet there will be some really puzzled assholes when even the US turns against Israel and yet Israel survives.
I worded that badly. I agree with you.
Queen Rania al Abdullah has come out in defense of the anti-Israel protests and riots that have cropped up across American colleges and universities. She has argued that the students who are leading these efforts simply want justice and peace, according to the New York Post.
Rania who is the wife of Jordan's King Abdullah II is a Palestinian and has been vocal about the Israel-Hamas war since Israel responded to a surprise attack that was carried out by Hamas.
If she cares so much about the folks in Gaza, why doesn't she convince her old mam to take in a bunch of them.
Quote from: Oliver the Second on May 04, 2024, 01:43:08 PMWell yeah but isn't that kinda Gods fault since he created us?
No. The first humans had free will and chose to go against God. God could wiped us out then and there and been justified.
What Senator Rubio said should be common sense, but in today's environment it is courageous.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/b9eEqK0PWuM
Quote from: DKG on May 07, 2024, 11:47:14 PMWhat Senator Rubio said should be common sense, but in today's environment it is courageous.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/b9eEqK0PWuM
I'm GLAD, GLAD, GLAD, the civilians are dying!!! I shit on their corpses in fact! THEY elected Hamas and they should all die for it!
Quote from: Lokmar on May 08, 2024, 01:25:56 AMI'm GLAD, GLAD, GLAD, the civilians are dying!!! I shit on their corpses in fact! THEY elected Hamas and they should all die for it!
They have not had another election since.
Quote from: DKG on May 08, 2024, 11:53:20 AMThey have not had another election since.
I guess that was a fatal error. Too bad.
Quote from: Lokmar on May 08, 2024, 01:25:56 AMI'm GLAD, GLAD, GLAD, the civilians are dying!!! I shit on their corpses in fact! THEY elected Hamas and they should all die for it!
while I do not share your enthusiasm at the idea of civilian causalities I do agree they should not be the cause for Israel to halt their offensive. That is the exact playbook HAMAS is counting on and will only lead to more of the same. Death and unnecessary bloodshed on BOTH SIDES
I don't hold the average Gazan accountable for the existence of HAMAS in their current position of power because I believe, for the most part, the vast majority of them were disenfranchised much the way we were in 2020. It's not like HAMAS is known for fair and transparent elections.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 08, 2024, 12:18:31 PMwhile I do not share your enthusiasm at the idea of civilian causalities I do agree they should not be the cause for Israel to halt their offensive. That is the exact playbook HAMAS is counting on and will only lead to more of the same. Death and unnecessary bloodshed on BOTH SIDES
I don't hold the average Gazan accountable for the existence of HAMAS in their current position of power because I believe, for the most part, the vast majority of them were disenfranchised much the way we were in 2020. It's not like HAMAS is known for fair and transparent elections.
That makes me admire our founders all the more. The more the English persecuted them, the harder they fought. It also makes me sad that we've lost that fighting spirit.
Quote from: Herman on May 05, 2024, 07:12:53 PMQueen Rania al Abdullah has come out in defense of the anti-Israel protests and riots that have cropped up across American colleges and universities. She has argued that the students who are leading these efforts simply want justice and peace, according to the New York Post.
Rania who is the wife of Jordan's King Abdullah II is a Palestinian and has been vocal about the Israel-Hamas war since Israel responded to a surprise attack that was carried out by Hamas.
If she cares so much about the folks in Gaza, why doesn't she convince her old mam to take in a bunch of them.
The Queen has Palestinian blood so she cares.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6lkjfhtiWB/?igsh=NHZtd2FrZWhsZTQw
Quote from: Moonie on May 08, 2024, 02:00:40 PMThe Queen has Palestinian blood so she cares.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6lkjfhtiWB/?igsh=NHZtd2FrZWhsZTQw
But, apparently not enough to let Palestinians into her country.
Quote from: Brent on May 08, 2024, 02:03:00 PMBut, apparently not enough to let Palestinians into her country.
They have let Palestinians in their country. I have family in Amman that fled Jerusalem. Thank God they were able to build a life there. No they can't allow 1.5 million people in. Thats crazy anyone thinks they can.
Quote from: Moonie on May 08, 2024, 02:07:33 PMThey have let Palestinians in their country. I have family in Amman that fled Jerusalem. Thank God they were able to build a life there. No they can't allow 1.5 million people in. Thats crazy anyone thinks they can.
You think Jordan has laid out the welcome mat to Gazans do you.
Why Jordan and Egypt are saying 'no' to accepting Palestinian refugees from Gaza
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-jordan-egypt-say-no-to-refugees-from-gaza-experts-2023-10
Quote from: Brent on May 08, 2024, 02:31:22 PMYou think Jordan has laid out the welcome mat to Gazans do you.
Why Jordan and Egypt are saying 'no' to accepting Palestinian refugees from Gaza
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-jordan-egypt-say-no-to-refugees-from-gaza-experts-2023-10
I've read that. I didn't say they were taking refugees during this war.
Quote from: Moonie on May 08, 2024, 02:07:33 PMNo they can't allow 1.5 million people in. Thats crazy anyone thinks they can.
I wish someone would tell that to Biden!
Middle East.
Hillary Clinton inspired outrage online after she criticized anti-Israel protesters for what she said was a lack of knowledge about history in the region — and all of h
istory altogether.
The former Democratic presidential candidate made the comments while being interviewed on MSNBC by Joe Scarborough on his show Thursday.
"I have had many conversations, as you have had, with a lot of young people over the last many months now, and you're right, they don't know very much at all about the history of the Middle East, or frankly, about history in many areas of the world, including in our own country," said Clinton.
"But with respect to the Middle East, they don't know that under the bringing together of the Israelis and the Palestinians by my husband, the then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, the head of the Palestinian Liberation Organization, and the Palestinian Authority, Yassar Arafat, an offer was made to the Palestinians for a state on 96% of the existing territory occupied by the Palestinians, with 4% to be given to Israel to reach 100% of the amount of territory that was hoped for," she continued.
"And this offer was made, and if Yassar Arafat had accepted it, there would have been a Palestinian state now for about 24 years," Clinton said.
The Democrats impeached President Trump after falsely accusing him of withholding aid from Ukraine. Now Jim Crow Joe is openly blocking aid from Israel to leave it vulnerable to terrorist attack and to keep the pro Hamas leftists in his voting base happy. Biden is unfit for office and he should be impeached.
The Jim Crow Joe administration hid its decision to pause some arms shipments to Israel from Congress. Just a day before Biden threatened Israel's arms shipments, the administration issued a sanctions waiver to bypass congressional prohibitions on arms sales to countries that boycott the Jewish state, including Hamas patron Qatar and Hezbollah-controlled Lebanon.
The Jim Crow Joe administration on Friday concluded its assessment of whether Israel is breaking international and American laws in its U.S.-backed military campaign in Gaza and did not conclude that Israel's conduct requires Washington to cut off aid for the offensive, according to a copy of the assessment reviewed by HuffPost.
The report has major significance for Biden's policy of sending Israel huge weapons shipments, which is largely ongoing despite the president's current pause on providing the country with a specific package of bombs, and despite histhreats of halting more supplies if Israel expands its fighting in Gaza in the coming days.
The assessment says "it is reasonable to assess that [U.S.-provided] defense articles... have been used by Israeli security forces since October 7 in instances inconsistent with its [international law] obligations or with established best practices for mitigating civilian harm."
The US paused a shipment of 3500 bombs. More than half were 2000 lb bombs. The rest were mostly 500 lb bombs.
I guess they wont be getting the Billion dollars in the form of bombs if they don't fire that prosecutor Biden don't like
Oh wait, that was Ukraine
my bad... so many impeachable offenses, so little time. Hard to keep track of them all
Quote from: Herman on May 11, 2024, 09:01:42 PMThe Democrats impeached President Trump after falsely accusing him of withholding aid from Ukraine. Now Jim Crow Joe is openly blocking aid from Israel to leave it vulnerable to terrorist attack and to keep the pro Hamas leftists in his voting base happy. Biden is unfit for office and he should be impeached.
The Jim Crow Joe administration hid its decision to pause some arms shipments to Israel from Congress. Just a day before Biden threatened Israel's arms shipments, the administration issued a sanctions waiver to bypass congressional prohibitions on arms sales to countries that boycott the Jewish state, including Hamas patron Qatar and Hezbollah-controlled Lebanon.
the left has made an industry out of conditioning their stooges like sewagemong, apegirl, fat lily and lobotomybud to accept any thing they do.
So at this point Biden could order airstrikes on baltimore and publicly state he did so to get rid of them blacks and these idiots would happily continue promoting him for 2024 and have no qualms whatsoever continuing to label Trump as the racist
they are that fucked up at this point
Quote from: DKG on May 11, 2024, 10:47:39 AMMiddle East.
Hillary Clinton inspired outrage online after she criticized anti-Israel protesters for what she said was a lack of knowledge about history in the region — and all of h
istory altogether.
The former Democratic presidential candidate made the comments while being interviewed on MSNBC by Joe Scarborough on his show Thursday.
"I have had many conversations, as you have had, with a lot of young people over the last many months now, and you're right, they don't know very much at all about the history of the Middle East, or frankly, about history in many areas of the world, including in our own country," said Clinton.
"But with respect to the Middle East, they don't know that under the bringing together of the Israelis and the Palestinians by my husband, the then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, the head of the Palestinian Liberation Organization, and the Palestinian Authority, Yassar Arafat, an offer was made to the Palestinians for a state on 96% of the existing territory occupied by the Palestinians, with 4% to be given to Israel to reach 100% of the amount of territory that was hoped for," she continued.
"And this offer was made, and if Yassar Arafat had accepted it, there would have been a Palestinian state now for about 24 years," Clinton said.
She's such a stupid bitch.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 11, 2024, 09:54:35 PMthe left has made an industry out of conditioning their stooges like sewagemong, apegirl, fat lily and lobotomybud to accept any thing they do.
So at this point Biden could order airstrikes on baltimore and publicly state he did so to get rid of them blacks and these idiots would happily continue promoting him for 2024 and have no qualms whatsoever continuing to label Trump as the racist
they are that fucked up at this point
The democRATs have an army of zombie followers.
Quote from: Lokmar on May 11, 2024, 10:11:19 PMShe's such a stupid bitch.
The Clintons are criminal globalist scum.
Quote from: Herman on May 11, 2024, 09:01:42 PMThe Democrats impeached President Trump after falsely accusing him of withholding aid from Ukraine. Now Jim Crow Joe is openly blocking aid from Israel to leave it vulnerable to terrorist attack and to keep the pro Hamas leftists in his voting base happy. Biden is unfit for office and he should be impeached.
The Jim Crow Joe administration hid its decision to pause some arms shipments to Israel from Congress. Just a day before Biden threatened Israel's arms shipments, the administration issued a sanctions waiver to bypass congressional prohibitions on arms sales to countries that boycott the Jewish state, including Hamas patron Qatar and Hezbollah-controlled Lebanon.
It's only a PAUSE of certain things. Lots of military aid is still going to Israel. Does anybody besides naive libtards think companies like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon that control congress and the president are going to allow Washington to fuck with their sales.