I would have preferred Vivek or Rubio but it works.
Isn't he that guy from the Mohave?
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Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 15, 2024, 04:27:10 PMI would have preferred Vivek or Rubio but it works.
Do you think there's any possibility that ridin' Biden might step down now that Trump has chosen his Running Mate?
Or is that just wishful thinking and the Democrats are stuck with the Old codger til the bitter end?
I was thinkin' there might be this remote possibility that he would delay his resignation in order for the Democrats to assess replacements that could counter Trump's ticket.
I still think his smartest pick would have been Tulsi Gabbard but I'm just a rando with an internet connection... I'm not an advisor or even a strategist.
A good choice?
/shrug
Guess we'll see.
I would have preferred Vivek or Rubio but it works.
Quote from: Garraty_47 on July 15, 2024, 04:56:38 PMI still think his smartest pick would have been Tulsi Gabbard but I'm just a rando with an internet connection... I'm not an advisor or even a strategist.
A good choice?
/shrug
Guess we'll see.
I'm inclined to agree.
Two white men in today's identity climate isn't the best strategy overall
then again, Biden is a Grenada at this point so whatever...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA2diI3zRso
Quote from: Oliver the Second on July 15, 2024, 04:31:15 PMIsn't he that guy from the Mohave?
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No, he's supposed to be spying for Caesar.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 15, 2024, 05:01:12 PMI would have preferred Vivek or Rubio but it works.
I'm inclined to agree.
Two white men in today's identity climate isn't the best strategy overall
then again, Biden is a Grenada at this point so whatever...
Sure, she checks some identity boxes but I think that was only a bonus. Her real value would be in sewing up his "independent" support and maybe even attracting some more disaffected democrats.
Like you say though, he probably doesn't need the help this time.
The democrats have done a fine job of screwing themselves over. lulz
It's time for America to change the channel
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Quote from: Garraty_47 on July 15, 2024, 06:13:40 PMThe democrats have done a fine job of screwing themselves over. lulz
If Biden stays on....fer sure.
Actually the might have a chance if he did the right thing and stepped down.
Biden reminds me of those smelly old homeless bums ya saw sleeping on a park bench.
Nobody in yer country wants a decaying Old Man like that as their President.
Doesn't America pride itself on youthful energy & renewal?
Anyway, it use to.
Quote from: JOE on July 15, 2024, 08:35:09 PMIf Biden stays on....fer sure.
You can't be sincerely implying the *only* thing wrong with the democrats is Biden.
Have you been drinking the bong water?
You shouldn't do that.
Quote from: Garraty_47 on July 15, 2024, 08:44:41 PMYou can't be sincerely implying the *only* thing wrong with the democrats is Biden.
Have you been drinking the bong water?
You shouldn't do that.
Well the Democrats would go up 5 points if they just got rid of Biden and replaced him with a younger candidate who can speak straight into a camera and doesn't look senile
Cripes, even USA's allies are mocking Biden
None of those countries has a leader over 60
It's almost as if everyone (including the Republicans) can see what is wrong with the Democrats, except for the Democrats
I guess you've heard of tunnel vision, eh?
The Democrats are so far gone just like their leader Biden that they need outsiders to give 'em a punch in the head & wake up
I don't know how stupid people in a political party can be
Quote from: JOE on July 15, 2024, 09:12:41 PMIt's almost as if everyone (including the Republicans) can see what is wrong with the Democrats, except for the Democrats
Oh the democrats see it but in their view they aren't "broken"; they're functioning exactly as they intended. They would rather lose to republicans (that's comfortably according to plan) than risk ceding any power or influence to average people.
You know this isn't actually a democracy, right?
Please tell me you at least grok *that* much.
Quote from: Garraty_47 on July 15, 2024, 10:00:18 PMOh the democrats see it but in their view they aren't "broken"; they're functioning exactly as they intended. They would rather lose to republicans (that's comfortably according to plan) than risk ceding any power or influence to average people.
You know this isn't actually a democracy, right?
Please tell me you at least grok *that* much.
Actually if it was Canada, and any major party ran a candidate that old and decrepit, he'd get booed and booted of the stage, replaced in no time flat
Unlike the States, the leader of a party actually has to go in front of parliament and answer questions
If his mental faculties were failing like that, he wouldn't last long
As President Biden just had to make one televised performance and one debate in an entire term
But in a parliamentary system, the Prime Minister has to stand up every day and answer questins
Your president(s) are very sheltered I'm afraid
Quote from: JOE on July 15, 2024, 10:10:38 PMActually if it was Canada, and any major party ran a candidate that old and decrepit, he'd get booed and booted of the stage, replaced in no time flat
Unlike the States, the leader of a party actually has to go in front of parliament and answer questions
If his mental faculties were failing like that, he wouldn't last long
As President Biden just had to make one televised performance and one debate in an entire term
But in a parliamentary system, the Prime Minister has to stand up every day and answer questins
Your president(s) are very sheltered I'm afraid
That's not entirely true. The PM of your country has a spotty attendance record. His ministers usually speak on his behalf when True Dope has more important things to do like take his jets to the private island of billionaire donors to the Liberal Party.
Singaporeans would never tolerate a PM as lazy as your PM.
Quote from: JOE on July 15, 2024, 10:10:38 PMAs President Biden just had to make one televised performance and one debate in an entire term
'Murican politics is pure theater.
It's all about appearances, narratives, platitudes, and being part of a 'team'.
As Frank Zappa once said:
"Government is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex."
None of it is real.
I cannot bring myself to be excited over this VP pick.
admittedly I don't know all that much about this guy but Vivek would have been a monster. Tulsi too.
JD? eh... you're not winning over any new hearts and minds with this guy... but whatever.
If true, this is concerning.
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Why can't we find non deviants for office?
Also, Vance shills for Israel and wants to attack Iran hard.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 16, 2024, 01:55:04 AMI cannot bring myself to be excited over this VP pick.
admittedly I don't know all that much about this guy but Vivek would have been a monster. Tulsi too.
JD? eh... you're not winning over any new hearts and minds with this guy... but whatever.
I am happy it wasn't Rubio or Doug Boredom. But the good thing is Vance could pair up with Don Jr in 2028 to continue the dynasty.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 16, 2024, 01:55:04 AMI cannot bring myself to be excited over this VP pick.
admittedly I don't know all that much about this guy but Vivek would have been a monster. Tulsi too.
JD? eh... you're not winning over any new hearts and minds with this guy... but whatever.
He might be able to deliver Ohio. That is something.
Quote from: deport_liberals on July 16, 2024, 03:09:35 AMI am happy it wasn't Rubio or Doug Boredom. But the good thing is Vance could pair up with Don Jr in 2028 to continue the dynasty.
I personally hate dynasties. I fully expect Barrack Obama to put his shitty America hating wife up as his proxy just like Bill Clinton did in 2016.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 16, 2024, 01:55:04 AMI cannot bring myself to be excited over this VP pick.
admittedly I don't know all that much about this guy but Vivek would have been a monster. Tulsi too.
JD? eh... you're not winning over any new hearts and minds with this guy... but whatever.
I don't know what happened. Rumpurs were flying just one month ago Tulsi would get the slot.
Quote from: Oerdin on July 16, 2024, 03:27:11 AMHe might be able to deliver Ohio. That is something.
Ohio was going for Trump without JD Vance.
JD Vance's political evolution.
In an interview with The New York Times published in June, Vance explained a bit about how he came around to Trump and how his politics evolved.
Vance told the outlet that in 2018, he was invited to an event hosted by the Business Roundtable, a nonprofit lobbyist group made up of CEOs. It had been about two years since Vance entered the national stage when his memoir "Hillbilly Elegy" — which offered an explanation for the embrace of Trump-like views among the white working class — shot to the top of The New York Times bestseller list.
Vance said he was seated next to a CEO of a major hotel chain at dinner whom he described as a "caricature of a business executive, complaining about how he was forced to pay his workers higher wages."
The CEO was complaining about the labor market and how Trump's actions at the border had impacted his relationship with his employees.
Vance told the Times the CEO then turned to him and said, "Well, you understand this as well as anybody. These people just need to get off their asses, come to work and do their job. And now, because we can't hire immigrants, or as many immigrants, we've got to hire these people at higher wages."
When recounting the moment to the Times, Vance said, "The fact that this guy saw me as sympathetic to his problem, and not the problem of the workers, made me realize that I'm on a train that has its own momentum, and I have to get off this train, or I'm going to wake up in 10 years and really hate everything that I've become."
"And so I decided to get off that train, and I felt like the only way that I could do that was, in some ways, alienating and offending people who liked my book," he continued.
Vance has expressed support for the government having a more hands-on role in the economy than most Republicans.
Vance has previously supported raising corporate taxes and the minimum wage and was critical of "right-to-work" policies favored by Republicans that can negatively impact unions. He has also cosponsored a bill to end tax-free mergers for big corporations.
"The emergence of Trump has caused a populist, aggressive side of the GOP to split off on economics, and Vance is one of the leaders of that populist caucus," Brian Riedl at the center-right Manhattan Institute told the Post. "Trump is much more economically populist, anti-free trade than traditional Republicans, and Vance has pushed hard to support this new populist economics in the GOP."
The outlet reported that some business leaders and major GOP donors were against Trump picking Vance as a running mate.
Before Vance's shift toward Trump, he was an outspoken critic of him. During his first run for president, Vance was critical of the then-candidate in interviews and tweets. He called Trump "reprehensible," said he could be "America's Hitler," and referred to himself as a never Trumper.
But in 2021, when campaigning for the US Senate seat in Ohio, Vance came out in support of Trump and said he had been wrong about the president. The evolution baffled many people who were fans of Vance's book.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jd-vance-said-a-dinner-with-elite-ceos-made-him-realize-he-might-end-up-hating-what-he-d-become/ar-BB1q2yyl?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=cbbc7178b1104529916ad458de217734&ei=56
Vance feels like a Pence... in more ways than just one...
Quote from: DKG on July 16, 2024, 06:17:25 AMOhio was going for Trump without JD Vance.
I am always a bit skeptical of polls so extra help is never bad.
I like JD Vance. I don't care that he started out as a Never Trumper. The treachery since 2016 has caused a lot of people to wake up.
Sure, he doesn't tick any boxes. He isn't Black or Hispanic. He isn't a woman. And he isn't gay or a tranny. But, leave the identity politics to the Democrats.
This guy can deliver Rust Belt states. Besides, not only is he one of the most loyal followers of Trump's working class agenda, he is friends with and endorsed by Vivek Ramaswamy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJnb6-0Jjyc
On the upside Vivik is apparently personal friends with J.D. Vance as they went to Yale LAW school together.
https://youtu.be/qJnb6-0Jjyc?si=ccKb73EnMidPv17b
Quote from: Oerdin on July 16, 2024, 02:07:47 PMOn the upside Vivik is apparently personal friends with J.D. Vance as they went to Yale LAW school together.
https://youtu.be/qJnb6-0Jjyc?si=ccKb73EnMidPv17b
We should brand democRATs as "Lincoln Killers". Ratchet up the rhetoric!!!
I would have chosen Rand Paul. His father would be at the top of the ticket.
Quote from: Thiel on July 16, 2024, 02:55:41 PMI would have chosen Rand Paul. His father would be at the top of the ticket.
I do too, but they do not share Vance's nationalist vision.
Like or hate him, agree or disagree with his political positions, JD Vance's rise from Rags to Riches is admirable.
I don't care that much for him, but I respect him in that regard and therefore you won't hear me disparge the guy because he had a really difficult upbringing and had to overcome the greatest obstacles.
I don't know many who've come from so little to such a high standing in society.
I know just one other person like that IRL, and now he's a CEO of a Fortune 500 Company after attending an Ivy League University and being awarded his Nation's Highest Honor.
Quote from: JOE on July 22, 2024, 06:28:48 PMI know just one other person like that IRL, and now he's a CEO of a Fortune 500 Company after attending an Ivy League University and being awarded his Nation's Highest Honor.
I hope you are not having sex with him Jo Jo.