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Title: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Conservative Perspective on September 15, 2024, 04:36:59 AM
Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska

Russian President Vladimir Putin warned the nation will be "at war" with NATO if the West lifts restrictions on its missiles in Ukraine, just after Russian military aircraft were seen flying off the coast of Alaska.

Source: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/putin-threatens-war-nato-russian-military-aircraft-spotted-off-alaska)
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Frood on September 15, 2024, 05:25:02 AM
It's not threatening war but rather retaliation for being directly war'd on.

As Russian politicians and Putin have pointed out, these long range missile systems require NATO personnel to operate/set up and NATO satellites to target.

Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: DKG on September 15, 2024, 08:32:22 AM
The war hawks that control the Biden administration want long range missiles for Ukraine. Maybe they know something about the polls that the msm won't report. Perhaps they know they have to act now as both congress and the presidenxy will no longer be receptive to the merchants of misery after November.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 11:53:48 AM
Yeah, the same Russian military that can't conquer Ukraine is going to hurt us.


I'm more afraid of the National Organization for Women than Putin.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Frood on September 15, 2024, 12:19:09 PM
 :crazy:
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 01:15:02 PM
The US wasn't able to conquer Vietnam either. Doesn't mean we aren't a deadly force one should avoid provoking
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Reggie Essent on September 15, 2024, 06:48:07 PM
To the Professor's point, the underperformance and ineptitude of the Russian military precludes any actual threat to Western Europe from the Russkies.  It seems they've been vastly overestimated for a long time.

"They" just want to spend more American taxpayer dollars for all these weapons for the Ukrainians that they don't really need.

It's all been a massive grift and we the taxpayer have been paying for it all.

I blame Registered Democrats.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 07:24:00 PM
I'm all for nuclear war. We need something to weaken our government so it can be toppled.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:01:39 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 01:15:02 PMThe US wasn't able to conquer Vietnam either. Doesn't mean we aren't a deadly force one should avoid provoking

Dude, Vietnam doesn't share a border with us so the logistics involved in conquering them would easily require around 20 million troops, which is completely insane given the distance.

As for Putin, he's not going to risk having a mushroom cloud pop up over Moscow just because he wants to be a badass.  He's resorting to bluster just to provide prolefeed to the idiots that support him.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:03:46 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on September 15, 2024, 06:48:07 PMTo the Professor's point, the underperformance and ineptitude of the Russian military precludes any actual threat to Western Europe from the Russkies.  It seems they've been vastly overestimated for a long time.

"They" just want to spend more American taxpayer dollars for all these weapons for the Ukrainians that they don't really need.

It's all been a massive grift and we the taxpayer have been paying for it all.

I blame Registered Democrats.

Thank you for the mention.  I agree with your thoughts with the political charade on this situation.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Thiel on September 15, 2024, 08:05:27 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on September 15, 2024, 06:48:07 PMTo the Professor's point, the underperformance and ineptitude of the Russian military precludes any actual threat to Western Europe from the Russkies.  It seems they've been vastly overestimated for a long time.

"They" just want to spend more American taxpayer dollars for all these weapons for the Ukrainians that they don't really need.

It's all been a massive grift and we the taxpayer have been paying for it all.

I blame Registered Democrats.
Too many Republicans have went along with the Democrats.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:08:51 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:01:39 PMDude, Vietnam doesn't share a border with us so the logistics involved in conquering them would easily require around 20 million troops, which is completely insane given the distance.

As for Putin, he's not going to risk having a mushroom cloud pop up over Moscow just because he wants to be a badass.  He's resorting to bluster just to provide prolefeed to the idiots that support him.
I get what you are saying but Russia is still a force to be reckoned with regardless. And for what? To further enrich the industrial war complex and their democratic vermin allies?

No matter how much of an overestimated force they've been exaggerated to by the vermin on the left they are still capable of inflicting heavy causalities and one casualty is one too many unless it's that trans lunatic general going over there and getting killed
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Thiel on September 15, 2024, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 01:15:02 PMThe US wasn't able to conquer Vietnam either. Doesn't mean we aren't a deadly force one should avoid provoking
The US could have conquered Vietnam if the USSR hadn't armed the Vietcong.

Likewise, Zelensky would have surrendered long ago if America had not been arming him.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:11:43 PM
Quote from: Thiel on September 15, 2024, 08:08:55 PMThe US could have conquered Vietnam if the USSR hadn't armed the Vietcong.

Likewise, Zelensky would have surrendered long ago if America had not been arming him.
exactly. And as the conflict escalates you don't think China will seize this as an opportunity to throw their hat in the ring at a time when America is at her weakest? Weakest leadership?

Any wonder why this is escalating to this level NOW?


Nothing that happens in an election year happens by coincidence
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:12:40 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:08:51 PMI get what you are saying but Russia is still a force to be reckoned with regardless. And for what? To further enrich the industrial war complex and their democratic vermin allies?

No matter how much of an overestimated force they've been exaggerated to by the vermin on the left they are still capable of inflicting heavy causalities and one casualty is one too many unless it's that trans lunatic general going over there and getting killed

I understand your concern about their capabilities, but I'm saying Putin doesn't have the will to push the button.  He's a bluffing retard at this point.  Yes, I would prefer that the fighting stops, but it shouldn't stop on Russian terms.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:16:33 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:12:40 PMI understand your concern about their capabilities, but I'm saying Putin doesn't have the will to push the button.  He's a bluffing retard at this point.  Yes, I would prefer that the fighting stops, but it shouldn't stop on Russian terms.
The terms have to be mutually agreeable or it isn't going to stop. And authorizing the use of long range US made missiles is in no way going to facilitate achieving a favorable outcome
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Reggie Essent on September 15, 2024, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: Thiel on September 15, 2024, 08:08:55 PMLikewise, Zelensky would have surrendered long ago if America had not been arming him.

I dunno.  Ukies are stubborn assholes.  Just ask Herman.  They've been fighting their cousins from up by Moscow for a thousand years or so.  The way Putin's initial "invasion" failed miserably shows that the "war" wouldn't have gone much differently than it has regardless of how many American tax dollars have been pumnped into it.

At this point, I am inclined to think that both the Russkies and the Ukies are milking this litle war for every American tax dollar they can squeeze out of it.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:22:40 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:16:33 PMThe terms have to be mutually agreeable or it isn't going to stop. And authorizing the use of long range US made missiles is in no way going to facilitate achieving a favorable outcome

Giving Ukraine the means of striking Moscow would cause enough of a headache for Putin to consider negotiations.  I don't see where it would escalate beyond that.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:22:53 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on September 15, 2024, 08:18:32 PMAt this point, I am inclined to think that both the Russkies and the Ukies are milking this litle war for every American tax dollar they can squeeze out of it.

This wouldn't surprise me at all. Zelly, Putin and the democrat/Rino scum are all in out. We lose dollars they lose lives and at the end of it all a select few get filthy fucking rich

and you have one man coming along looking to throw a monkey wrench into that gravy train and they are ALL trying to stop him by any means possible
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:24:26 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:22:40 PMGiving Ukraine the means of striking Moscow would cause enough of a headache for Putin to consider negotiations.  I don't see where it would escalate beyond that.
That's quite a gamble you are proposing there. When an animal is cornered it tends to bite.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:25:36 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:24:26 PMThat's quite a gamble you are proposing there. When an animal is cornered it tends to bite.

Putin is bluffing and that is the bottom line.  He's not going to risk nuclear war just to save face.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: JOE on September 15, 2024, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:16:33 PMThe terms have to be mutually agreeable or it isn't going to stop. And authorizing the use of long range US made missiles is in no way going to facilitate achieving a favorable outcome

Yes I agree avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly.

The War needs to come to an End...and soon.

It's gotten out of hand to the point where it threatens the entire World.

World can only sacrifice so much for the Ukraine.

I agree that they ought to be allowed Independence & assurances of sovereignty but they'll have to give up some of their territory for peace.

I agree with Trump's idea of a DMZ.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 08:29:54 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:01:39 PMDude, Vietnam doesn't share a border with us so the logistics involved in conquering them would easily require around 20 million troops, which is completely insane given the distance.

As for Putin, he's not going to risk having a mushroom cloud pop up over Moscow just because he wants to be a badass.  He's resorting to bluster just to provide prolefeed to the idiots that support him.

I dont agree. I honestly believe that Putin  would risk a nuclear exchange if Moscow starts getting smoked. At the very least, expect Russian operatives to fuck up their immediate neighbors.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:31:17 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:25:36 PMPutin is bluffing and that is the bottom line.  He's not going to risk nuclear war just to save face.
Putin is not going to surrender just because Ukraine can reach Moscow with missiles.

that would be a dumb maneuver because we all know that if Putin does come to the table he'll be pressed with terms NO ONE in his position could ever agree to. Why? Because the vermin in the industrial war complex that control the puppets in gov does not want the war to end

This is saddam hussien all over again. Saddam was accused of having weapons of mass destruction and no matter how much and how often or to what extent he allowed the weapons inspectors access to his alleged WMDs they were going to pin him to that accusation.

it's a total rewind of the playbook, only this time, with a nuclear armed power capable of contributing to the destruction of life as we know it.

Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lab Flaker on September 15, 2024, 08:32:54 PM
Quote from: JOE on September 15, 2024, 08:26:20 PMYes I agree avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly.

The War needs to come to an End...and soon.

It's gotten out of hand to the point where it threatens the entire World.

World can only sacrifice so much for the Ukraine.

I agree that they ought to be allowed Independence & assurances of sovereignty but they'll have to give up some of their territory for peace.

I agree with Trump's idea of a DMZ.

Have you sent your apartheid era cons back to the South African president yet Joe?

PS: the postal service is in a shambles, you may have to send it via an independent mailing service.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:33:25 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 08:29:54 PMI dont agree. I honestly believe that Putin  would risk a nuclear exchange if Moscow starts getting smoked. At the very least, expect Russian operatives to fuck up their immediate neighbors.

He'd be considered a true war criminal if he pushed the button.  The only smart way out for him is to try to push out the Ukrainians that are holding Russian territory and then call for a cease fire.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lab Flaker on September 15, 2024, 08:35:11 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:33:25 PMHe'd be considered a true war criminal if he pushed the button.  The only smart way out for him is to try to push out the Ukrainians that are holding Russian territory and then call for a cease fire.

He's already a war criminal...and he's indeed crazy enough to push the button. The guy is a fucking Russian ffs!
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 08:36:17 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:33:25 PMHe'd be considered a true war criminal if he pushed the button.  The only smart way out for him is to try to push out the Ukrainians that are holding Russian territory and then call for a cease fire.

And thats what I think happens when Trump gets back in.

If the bombs start falling on Moscow tho, look for a MAJOR escalation. Maybe not nukes but I guarantee you you'll see a barrage of heavy bombers dropping big shit on Ukraine at the very LEAST.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: Lab Flaker on September 15, 2024, 08:35:11 PMHe's already a war criminal...and he's indeed crazy enough to push the button. The guy is a fucking Russian ffs!

He might be ex-KGB, but he isn't psychotic enough to consider use of nukes. 
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 08:38:33 PM
Quote from: Lab Flaker on September 15, 2024, 08:35:11 PMHe's already a war criminal...and he's indeed crazy enough to push the button. The guy is a fucking Russian ffs!

I also believe he would do it if things continued to escalate. I dont think it would happen immediately though. I could see if he started heavy bombing in Ukraine, NATO counters with direct intervention of forces, tit for tat, and then eventually, the missiles start flying.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: JOE on September 15, 2024, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: Lab Flaker on September 15, 2024, 08:32:54 PMHave you sent your apartheid era cons back to the South African president yet Joe?

PS: the postal service is in a shambles, you may have to send it via an independent mailing service.

Can the typical south African Native White or Black afford a gold coin avatar_Lab Flaker Lab Flaker?

From the videos I've seen on YT most people who live there seem kinda poor.

But maybe that's a misconception?
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:40:43 PM
Saying the Russians are weak because they haven't annihilated the Ukes as of yet is a serious miscalculation and is tantamount to saying Israel is weak because it has taken nearly a full year and they haven't taken down a group of rag tag freedom fighters. Does anyone in their right mind believe that Gazans are holding their own against the overwhelming superiority of the IDF?

The Russians are attempting to appease the court of world opinion. Which, in my opinion is always a mistake because it's an effort where you never prevail, but I'm certain they are doing it none-the-less.

Had Putin gone in balls to the wall they'd have rolled over the Ukrainians in less than 6 months.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:40:51 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:31:17 PMPutin is not going to surrender just because Ukraine can reach Moscow with missiles.

that would be a dumb maneuver because we all know that if Putin does come to the table he'll be pressed with terms NO ONE in his position could ever agree to. Why? Because the vermin in the industrial war complex that control the puppets in gov does not want the war to end

This is saddam hussien all over again. Saddam was accused of having weapons of mass destruction and no matter how much and how often or to what extent he allowed the weapons inspectors access to his alleged WMDs they were going to pin him to that accusation.

it's a total rewind of the playbook, only this time, with a nuclear armed power capable of contributing to the destruction of life as we know it.



It isn't a surrender if all you do is ask for negotiations on a cease fire.  The smart thing for Putin to do is push out the Ukrainians that are holding Russian territory and then call for a cease fire.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: JOE on September 15, 2024, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:40:43 PMSaying the Russians are weak because they haven't annihilated the Ukes as of yet is a serious miscalculation and is tantamount to saying Israel is weak because it has taken nearly a full year and they haven't taken down a group of rag tag freedom fighters. Does anyone in their right mind believe that Gazans are holding their own against the overwhelming superiority of the IDF?

The Russians are attempting to appease the court of world opinion. Which, in my opinion is always a mistake because it's an effort where you never prevail, but I'm certain they are doing it none-the-less.

Had Putin gone in balls to the wall they'd have rolled over the Ukrainians in less than 6 months.

Doesn't matter how poor their military is.

They got Nukes.

They have to end this War for the Greater Good of World Peace and to prevent world annihilation.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:43:11 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 08:36:17 PMAnd thats what I think happens when Trump gets back in.

If the bombs start falling on Moscow tho, look for a MAJOR escalation. Maybe not nukes but I guarantee you you'll see a barrage of heavy bombers dropping big shit on Ukraine at the very LEAST.

The Russian Air Force has been degraded via attrition and their capability to bring bombers in has suffered accordingly.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lab Flaker on September 15, 2024, 08:43:47 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:38:21 PMHe might be ex-KGB, but he isn't psychotic enough to consider use of nukes. 

I honestly wouldn't put it past him! He has that Napoleon complex about him.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 08:43:53 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:40:51 PMIt isn't a surrender if all you do is ask for negotiations on a cease fire.  The smart thing for Putin to do is push out the Ukrainians that are holding Russian territory and then call for a cease fire.

I'm pretty sure he's already taken all the land he asserted was Russian when Tucker Carlson interviewed him.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:40:51 PMIt isn't a surrender if all you do is ask for negotiations on a cease fire.  The smart thing for Putin to do is push out the Ukrainians that are holding Russian territory and then call for a cease fire.
The US will not allow for such terms to come to fruition. Not with a democrat lackey in the chair

Democrats will bring us full circle to what started this war to begin with. Ukraine gets to join NATO and place missiles at Putin's doorstep and Putin just eats it. Thus betraying every life he lost in this conflict

you think that doesn't cause a military coup resulting in his assassination?

Bro -- Put the man in a no win situation and you better believe nukes will start flying. If I'm going down I'm taking as many of my enemies with me as possible. I'm sure this guy is thinking the same
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 08:45:53 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:43:11 PMThe Russian Air Force has been degraded via attrition and their capability to bring bombers in has suffered accordingly.

We just turned back on of their bombers near Alaska. They do have them and they do fly, no matter how shitty their air force is. As far as ordinance, I've no doubt they have shit tons of dumb bombs.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Reggie Essent on September 15, 2024, 08:49:52 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:40:43 PMHad Putin gone in balls to the wall they'd have rolled over the Ukrainians in less than 6 months.

He did go in Balls to the Wall at first.  He wanted a George Bush Iraq style walk over, but if you recall, the multiple convoys making for Kiev all stalled because the Russian Military basically sucks and the Ukies put up resistance the Russians didn't expect.

At this point the Russians should give up the Donetsk region and the Ukies should withdraw from Kursk and call it a fucking day.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:51:51 PM
Ok, a lot of folks are replying to me at the same time so let me create this post for the sake of brevity.


Flaker, Putin is as much Napoleon as I am as much the Pope.

Lokmar, he would want the land that he lost back along with what other territory he could gain.

Biggie, you can't always worry about what goes through the mind of others.  Putin has options, but using nukes isn't one of them.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 15, 2024, 08:52:29 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on September 15, 2024, 08:49:52 PMHe did go in Balls to the Wall at first.  He wanted a George Bush Iraq style walk over, but if you recall, the multiple convoys making for Kiev all stalled because the Russian Military basically sucks and the Ukies put up resistance the Russians didn't expect.

Really? I don't remember that. Or maybe I wasn't paying enough attention. But I'll take your word for it as I have never known you to be misinformed about such things

anyway though, the US puppeteers will never allow a peace process between these two countries. The conflict is exactly the money pit they want.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:52:55 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 08:45:53 PMWe just turned back on of their bombers near Alaska. They do have them and they do fly, no matter how shitty their air force is. As far as ordinance, I've no doubt they have shit tons of dumb bombs.

But getting those bombers past our defenses would be very challenging.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lab Flaker on September 15, 2024, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: JOE on September 15, 2024, 08:40:08 PMCan the typical south African Native White or Black afford a gold coin avatar_Lab Flaker Lab Flaker?

From the videos I've seen on YT most people who live there seem kinda poor.

But maybe that's a misconception?

During apartheid most typical South Africans could afford a lot Joe. It was only those that had 10 plus wives with 20 plus children that felt the real pinch.

These days it's "reverse apartheid" that's crippled an entire nation.

But we digress...back to the Pootin!
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:52:55 PMBut getting those bombers past our defenses would be very challenging.

I expect if this situation evolves because of bombs on Moscow, high altitude carpet bombing of Kiev will be a reality. They'll take out whatever air defenses are around Kiev with a barrage of missiles, then the bombers do their job.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 10:16:00 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:51:51 PMOk, a lot of folks are replying to me at the same time so let me create this post for the sake of brevity.


Flaker, Putin is as much Napoleon as I am as much the Pope.

Lokmar, he would want the land that he lost back along with what other territory he could gain.

Biggie, you can't always worry about what goes through the mind of others.  Putin has options, but using nukes isn't one of them.

My point is, he already has what he said he wanted so when Trump gets in, Putin will be given a choice:
1. Keep what you have and whats left of Ukraine joins NATO
2. Trump allows no holds barred prosecution of the war, including NATO involvement.

Personally, I want WW3.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lab Flaker on September 15, 2024, 10:27:46 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 10:16:00 PMMy point is, he already has what he said he wanted so when Trump gets in, Putin will be given a choice:
1. Keep what you have and whats left of Ukraine joins NATO
2. Trump allows no holds barred prosecution of the war, including NATO involvement.

Personally, I want WW3.

Napoleon complex as in his diminutive height. Little-man syndrome...you know, like Stalin? They all start busting out the "big guns" because of their vertical challenge in situation life. Platform shoes should remain exclusively for the chicks!
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lab Flaker on September 15, 2024, 10:31:51 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 15, 2024, 08:51:51 PMOk, a lot of folks are replying to me at the same time so let me create this post for the sake of brevity.


Flaker, Putin is as much Napoleon as I am as much the Pope.

Lokmar, he would want the land that he lost back along with what other territory he could gain.

Biggie, you can't always worry about what goes through the mind of others.  Putin has options, but using nukes isn't one of them.

Napoleon complex as in his diminutive height. Little-man syndrome...you know, like Stalin? They all start busting out the "big guns" because of their vertical challenge in situation life. Platform shoes should remain exclusively for the chicks!
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lab Flaker on September 15, 2024, 11:12:55 PM
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Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 11:24:45 PM
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Best hope no one like me and my inverted micro wiener racist energy gets in. I'll push the fukin button PRONTO!!!!!

https://youtu.be/nZhbbMrPWWE
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Shen Li on September 16, 2024, 12:06:02 AM
The Bidumb/Hairyass(dumb and dumber) wants long rang missiles in Ukraine. Ukraine doesn't have the tech to use them so them would be guided by the US.

Biggz talked about something really big if the Dems think they are going to lose. Hairyass started a proxy war and now they want a direct confrontation with Russia.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: JOE on September 16, 2024, 12:22:38 AM
Quote from: Shen Li on September 16, 2024, 12:06:02 AMThe Bidumb/Hairyass(dumb and dumber) wants long rang missiles in Ukraine. Ukraine doesn't have the tech to use them so them would be guided by the US.

This is scary.

This war has to stop.

It's ok if it's just a scare tactic but if they actually go ahead & do it...

....insane.

Totally against it avatar_Shen Li Shen

At some point it's not worth it to save Ukraine & especially to get every sq in of their territory back.

Call it the day & end this war.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 16, 2024, 09:35:23 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 10:13:34 PMI expect if this situation evolves because of bombs on Moscow, high altitude carpet bombing of Kiev will be a reality. They'll take out whatever air defenses are around Kiev with a barrage of missiles, then the bombers do their job.

I don't believe they have enough ordinance to accomplish that. 
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 16, 2024, 09:35:59 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 15, 2024, 10:16:00 PMMy point is, he already has what he said he wanted so when Trump gets in, Putin will be given a choice:
1. Keep what you have and whats left of Ukraine joins NATO
2. Trump allows no holds barred prosecution of the war, including NATO involvement.

Personally, I want WW3.

Yeesh, suicidal much?
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 17, 2024, 02:23:48 AM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 16, 2024, 09:35:23 PMI don't believe they have enough ordinance to accomplish that. 

Sure they do. I bet they have shitloads of ordinance they've gotten from the chanks too.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 17, 2024, 02:24:43 AM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 16, 2024, 09:35:59 PMYeesh, suicidal much?

I suppose.

The end of civilization is the only way we'll ever be able to dispose of all the human refuse we are saddled with.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Frood on September 17, 2024, 02:28:31 AM
I'm just glad most of you aren't employed as strategists, advisors, or high ranking diplomats, bureaucrats, and politicians.

No idea....
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 17, 2024, 02:39:53 AM
Quote from: Frood on September 17, 2024, 02:28:31 AMI'm just glad most of you aren't employed as strategists, advisors, or high ranking diplomats, bureaucrats, and politicians.

No idea....

Or despots with nukes! Dont forget that!!!!
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 17, 2024, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: Frood on September 17, 2024, 02:28:31 AMI'm just glad most of you aren't employed as strategists, advisors, or high ranking diplomats, bureaucrats, and politicians.

No idea....

Ok, what would you have said to Putin before he launched the invasion?
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Frood on September 17, 2024, 09:30:57 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 17, 2024, 12:10:56 PMOk, what would you have said to Putin before he launched the invasion?

"Whoops, you caught us. We'll withdraw our personnel and hardware from Ukraine, shut down the biolabs, and never again depose a duly elected leader of Ukraine."
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Herman on September 17, 2024, 09:34:38 PM
Quote from: Frood on September 17, 2024, 09:30:57 PM"Whoops, you caught us. We'll withdraw our personnel and hardware from Ukraine, shut down the biolabs, and never again depose a duly elected leader of Ukraine."
Yep, that's a start. No Kameltoe in Poland offering NATO membership to Ukraine either.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Oliver the Second on September 18, 2024, 12:14:54 PM
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 18, 2024, 12:27:21 PM
Quote from: Oliver the Second on September 18, 2024, 12:14:54 PM


Looks like the situation has escalated! Lets see if Putin ratchets this up even more!
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 18, 2024, 12:32:42 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 18, 2024, 12:27:21 PMLooks like the situation has escalated! Lets see if Putin ratchets this up even more!

Of course it did. Zelensky has every vested interest to escalate the war so that the puppets who are backing him can maintain power through the invocation of the war powers act. He was probably instructed to do just that through some untracable secure line right to the president's cabinet.

War powers act followed by the 25th amendment to ensure the cackling hen is the puppet they control for the next 4 years
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 18, 2024, 12:46:26 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 18, 2024, 12:32:42 PMOf course it did. Zelensky has every vested interest to escalate the war so that the puppets who are backing him can maintain power through the invocation of the war powers act. He was probably instructed to do just that through some untracable secure line right to the president's cabinet.

War powers act followed by the 25th amendment to ensure the cackling hen is the puppet they control for the next 4 years

I find it interesting that bidenco has said nothing about this explosion is russia while they are clearly expressing butthurt that the JOOOOZ! didnt warn them about the pager explosions... menwhile the JOOOOZ! are all:

https://youtu.be/TgYtVDpcplo
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 18, 2024, 12:48:40 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 18, 2024, 12:46:26 PMI find it interesting that bidenco has said nothing about this explosion is russia while they are clearly expressing butthurt that the JOOOOZ! didnt warn them about the pager explosions... menwhile the JOOOOZ! are all:

https://youtu.be/TgYtVDpcplo

Why would the jews inform anyone? The whole purpose of a clandestine top secret covert operation like that which probably took years to plan and execute is that it remains a secret anyone outside of the inner circle running it.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 18, 2024, 12:50:56 PM
Next up

Breaking story

The mossad implants an incurable & deadly sexually transmitted disease in live stock and infects half of the male Muslim population in Lebanon, Syria and Iran
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 18, 2024, 01:40:31 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 18, 2024, 12:48:40 PMWhy would the jews inform anyone? The whole purpose of a clandestine top secret covert operation like that which probably took years to plan and execute is that it remains a secret anyone outside of the inner circle running it.

It speaks volumes that they dont share with us like they used to. They used to trust us and would voluntarily share with us because of mutual respect and trust but now, they dare not share jack or shit because they know we will stab them in the fuckin back.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Frood on September 18, 2024, 08:24:23 PM
Fuck the hook nosed shekel hoarders.

Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Brent on September 18, 2024, 08:48:22 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 18, 2024, 01:40:31 PMIt speaks volumes that they dont share with us like they used to. They used to trust us and would voluntarily share with us because of mutual respect and trust but now, they dare not share jack or shit because they know we will stab them in the fuckin back.
The United States doesn't deserve any country's trust anymore.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Frood on September 18, 2024, 08:50:16 PM
Nor does Israel.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Brent on September 18, 2024, 08:54:44 PM
Quote from: Frood on September 18, 2024, 08:50:16 PMNor does Israel.
They did not turn on the West, we turned on them with our tacit approval of Hamas.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 18, 2024, 09:24:10 PM
America really is 2 countries now. When democRATs are in charge, I wouldnt piss on America if it were burning down. I'd only willingly give my life for CERTAIN Republican governments, i.e. Reagans and Trumps.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Frood on September 18, 2024, 09:28:47 PM
Quote from: Brent on September 18, 2024, 08:54:44 PMThey did not turn on the West, we turned on them with our tacit approval of Hamas.

Bullshit... Israel exploits the West. Always have. They're a pack of self righteous self serving cunts.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 18, 2024, 09:34:49 PM
Quote from: Frood on September 18, 2024, 09:28:47 PMBullshit... Israel exploits the West. Always have. They're a pack of self righteous self serving cunts.

Far superior to any of the muhzie shitstains we do business with. Hell, they're even better than the German cunts who've been sucking us dry for decades!!!!
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Reggie Essent on September 18, 2024, 09:41:02 PM
Quote from: Frood on September 17, 2024, 02:28:31 AMI'm just glad most of you aren't employed as strategists, advisors, or high ranking diplomats, bureaucrats, and politicians.

No idea....

If I was in charge there would be Peace and order!
 :sm (22):
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Frood on September 18, 2024, 10:18:15 PM
Israel's lapdog...
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Herman on September 18, 2024, 10:26:31 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on September 18, 2024, 09:41:02 PMIf I was in charge there would be Peace and order!
 :sm (22):
The Neocon former Republicans that Kameltoe is so proud are endorsing her do not want peace.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Brent on September 19, 2024, 09:55:14 PM
Quote from: Frood on September 18, 2024, 09:28:47 PMBullshit... Israel exploits the West. Always have. They're a pack of self righteous self serving cunts.
We use them too to provide us with intel on Jihadis. Then after we get what we want we support the pro Hamas protests that shut down cities.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Frood on September 19, 2024, 10:48:02 PM
Quote from: Brent on September 19, 2024, 09:55:14 PMWe use them too to provide us with intel on Jihadis. Then after we get what we want we support the pro Hamas protests that shut down cities.

The protests are just theatre and are of no consequence. The Deep State loves getting milked and lead by Israel.
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Lokmar on September 19, 2024, 11:01:55 PM
Quote from: Frood on September 19, 2024, 10:48:02 PMThe protests are just theatre and are of no consequence. The Deep State loves getting milked and lead by Israel.

You would be a democRAT here. They hate Israel but love libtarded kapo JOOOZ!
Title: Re: Putin threatens war with NATO as Russian military aircraft spotted off Alaska
Post by: Frood on September 20, 2024, 01:12:39 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 19, 2024, 11:01:55 PMYou would be a democRAT here. They hate Israel but love libtarded kapo JOOOZ!

Neocons and Neolibs are two sides of the AIPAC-military industrial complex coin.

It's a big club and us mere citizens ain't in it.