Just remember kiddies. The same man who was too feeble to stand trial in the classified documents case is now authorizing moves that can propel us into world war III and provide him the circumstance he needs to invoke the war powers act.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WakOKnCCJM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 17, 2024, 04:36:46 PMJust remember kiddies. The same man who was too feeble to stand trial in the classified documents case is now authorizing moves that can propel us into world war III and provide him the circumstance he needs to invoke the war powers act.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WakOKnCCJM
This is what I feared most Biggz. Escalating the war East European war in the final 60 days while they can.
The Democratic Party is the political wing of the US military-industrial complex.
Russia has 2 choices, wait for bidens ouster, or go WW3. I dont concern myself with either.
biden is gonna biden. Zelinski best be thinking what's gonna happen if Trump gets #PISSED! that he escalated and put Trump in a bad spot.
Zelensky is a dumb motherfucker and will send in the supersonic missiles at Russia.
However, I'm hoping Russia refuses to get dragged into tactical nuke use until Trump is sworn in.
Quote from: Frood on November 18, 2024, 12:33:47 AMZelensky is a dumb motherfucker and will send in the supersonic missiles at Russia.
However, I'm hoping Russia refuses to get dragged into tactical nuke use until Trump is sworn in.
Yea, that would be preferred. I guess we'll find out soon!
Finally Armageddon...
Oh boy.
:fgj (5):
Since hardly anyone is signing up for war who is going off to fight in the first place?
Russia has lost a generation of men and has employed some North Koreans to help out. What was it 3 or 5,000 NK? They'll be picked off in minutes.
I don't really trust Russia's nuclear warheads.... they have probably been sitting idle for decades and self detonate before they leave their launch pads.
Putin is just bluffing like Saddam Hussein tried to bluff.
Biden is pure unadulterated satanic evil...
And thanks to Biden, making matters worse, we are stuck with bloody more refugees. Just what the west needs.... more mouths to feed.
Quote from: Frood on November 18, 2024, 12:33:47 AMZelensky is a dumb motherfucker and will send in the supersonic missiles at Russia.
However, I'm hoping Russia refuses to get dragged into tactical nuke use until Trump is sworn in.
Zelensky is dangerous and he does not seem to care a wit about anything other than his increasing his personal wealth.
Russians and Ukrainians know help is on the way. Peace is within their grasp. They just have to hold on a little longer. Don't let Biden and Zelensky destroy everything.
Quote from: caskur on November 18, 2024, 02:38:50 AMSince hardly anyone is signing up for war who is going off to fight in the first place?
Russia has lost a generation of men and has employed some North Koreans to help out. What was it 3 or 5,000 NK? They'll be picked off in minutes.
I don't really trust Russia's nuclear warheads.... they have probably been sitting idle for decades and self detonate before they leave their launch pads.
Putin is just bluffing like Saddam Hussein tried to bluff.
Biden is pure unadulterated satanic evil...
And thanks to Biden, making matters worse, we are stuck with bloody more refugees. Just what the west needs.... more mouths to feed.
Russian nuclear arsenal has been updated to a large degree and their hypersonic Zircon missiles can't be adequately intercepted (top speed mach 8 or 9), particularly from their Yasen Class subs.Their Avangard hypersonic glide vehicles can carry MIRV payloads at over Mach 25 from long range missiles.
Russia has the larger and better arsenal.
The US is still fixing up old gear and their track record on hypersonic development if to be believed, it's pretty wonky. The US also has a slightly smaller arsenal.
Quote from: Frood on November 18, 2024, 07:54:43 AMRussian nuclear arsenal has been updated to a large degree and their hypersonic Zircon missiles can't be adequately intercepted (top speed mach 8 or 9), particularly from their Yasen Class subs.Their Avangard hypersonic glide vehicles can carry MIRV payloads at over Mach 25 from long range missiles.
Russia has the larger and better arsenal.
The US is still fixing up old gear and their track record on hypersonic development if to be believed, it's pretty wonky. The US also has a slightly smaller arsenal.
I remain sceptical.
Carry on!~
Quote from: Frood on November 18, 2024, 07:54:43 AMRussian nuclear arsenal has been updated to a large degree and their hypersonic Zircon missiles can't be adequately intercepted (top speed mach 8 or 9), particularly from their Yasen Class subs.Their Avangard hypersonic glide vehicles can carry MIRV payloads at over Mach 25 from long range missiles.
Russia has the larger and better arsenal.
The US is still fixing up old gear and their track record on hypersonic development if to be believed, it's pretty wonky. The US also has a slightly smaller arsenal.
Just one nuke going off in a US city changes the world as we know it
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 18, 2024, 08:28:33 AMJust one nuke going off in a US city changes the world as we know it
Just one Yasen Class and all of it's payload could take out the Eastern seaboard.
The permanent state, its accomplices, and the professional managerial classes (including politicians and the legacy media) who serve them would rather rule over the smoldering ruins of the planet than cede any control at all over it.
This is the only reason Russia is called an "enemy".
Quote from: Garraty_47 on November 18, 2024, 09:15:34 AMThe permanent state, its accomplices, and the professional managerial classes (including politicians and the legacy media) who serve them would rather rule over the smoldering ruins of the planet than cede any control at all over it.
This is the only reason Russia is called an "enemy".
But Trump eats McDonald's tho!
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 18, 2024, 09:32:42 AMBut Trump eats McDonald's tho!
Oh he's down with WW3 too; he'd only rather it kicked off with China or in the middle east.
/shrug
Quote from: Frood on November 18, 2024, 07:54:43 AMRussian nuclear arsenal has been updated to a large degree and their hypersonic Zircon missiles can't be adequately intercepted (top speed mach 8 or 9), particularly from their Yasen Class subs.Their Avangard hypersonic glide vehicles can carry MIRV payloads at over Mach 25 from long range missiles.
Russia has the larger and better arsenal.
The US is still fixing up old gear and their track record on hypersonic development if to be believed, it's pretty wonky. The US also has a slightly smaller arsenal.
I dont think that matters much. America has enough to smoke the fuk outta Russia and China. Sure, more of America will take direct hits but everyone will be fubar'd.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 18, 2024, 08:28:33 AMJust one nuke going off in a US city changes the world as we know it
LOL! Yea it does! No more democRATs winning elections!!! Just as long as its New York, LA, Chicago, or Minneapolis!
Quote from: Garraty_47 on November 18, 2024, 09:59:29 AMOh he's down with WW3 too; he'd only rather it kicked off with China or in the middle east.
/shrug
I doubt it. He wont be bullied into bitching out over it though.
At any rate, nobody can do shit to prevent it so if its gonna happen, its gonna happen. Orange man will get smoked in WW3 like everyone else and he knows it.
Let us wait and see and not get anxious I am sure that is what Biden wants everyone to feel. Don't give that gnarly old bastard another thought.
Quote from: Lokmar on November 18, 2024, 10:26:58 AMI dont think that matters much. America has enough to smoke the fuk outta Russia and China. Sure, more of America will take direct hits but everyone will be fubar'd.
Russia has metro nuclear shelters still maintained. America has nothing for the civilians.
Quote from: Frood on November 18, 2024, 05:17:04 PMRussia has metro nuclear shelters still maintained. America has nothing for the civilians.
I dont think that will make much of a difference. Some of it will survive, but Moscow in particular is gonna get pounded into oblivion just like DC. Our military has plenty of info on where Russian leadership will be and those spots will get pounded multiple times just like ours will. Cheyenne Mountain for example, will be a pile of rubble.
Quote from: Lokmar on November 18, 2024, 05:41:02 PMI dont think that will make much of a difference. Some of it will survive, but Moscow in particular is gonna get pounded into oblivion just like DC. Our military has plenty of info on where Russian leadership will be and those spots will get pounded multiple times just like ours will. Cheyenne Mountain for example, will be a pile of rubble.
Russia has deep METRO shelters for the majority of population.
The US has virtually none. Do you get it?
Quote from: Frood on November 18, 2024, 06:04:57 PMRussia has deep METRO shelters for the majority of population.
The US has virtually none. Do you get it?
Nope. Those deep shelters wont save their population. I've read about their shelters under moscow. Those wont survive.
They're known and they're targeted.
I think Frood is impressed with Putins Russia.
Check this out Lokmar and Frood..
Go to the 50.30 minute mark.
Quote from: Lokmar on November 18, 2024, 07:21:38 PMNope. Those deep shelters wont save their population. I've read about their shelters under moscow. Those wont survive.
They're known and they're targeted.
You're overly optimistic and patriotic.
Quote from: Frood on November 18, 2024, 11:31:34 PMYou're overly optimistic and patriotic.
The physics of a direct hit by a nuclear missile arent optimistic. Even our standard non nuclear bunker busters can reach passed 200 feet. While there is no public knowledge proving it, it is assumed that we have nuclear bunker busters that were developed with dark funding. The locations of many of the entrances and layouts to these tunnels have been published. Much more is likely known. Now I'm sure the Russians have remote locations under mountains that are survivable, but Vlad Q Public aint gonna be there!
Russian equipment has always been inferior to the USA's superior equipment. I think back to all the subs, tanks, airplanes, and assorted weaponry we've seen come from the USSR for the last 80 years. It was all over rated. The Kinsal missile that was supposed to be the dagger in the wests heart turned out to be slower and less advanced than air claimed by Russia. We got our hands on one so we're well aware of its capabilities. There's also the fact that our anti missile batteries shot one of these impossible to shoot missiles out of the sky.
The US population is screwed but if we had underground bunkers, they wouldnt work in large cities that are prime targets either. Besides, after you put yourself in that hole, you have to live in it and feed everyone. I think the best chance of surviveability is to live in and area away from a direct blast and not immediately downwind of one.
visit https://www.nukepills.com/ and https://atlassurvivalshelters.com/ if you have the money to prep.
Quote from: Lokmar on November 19, 2024, 12:38:42 AMThe physics of a direct hit by a nuclear missile arent optimistic. Even our standard non nuclear bunker busters can reach passed 200 feet. While there is no public knowledge proving it, it is assumed that we have nuclear bunker busters that were developed with dark funding. The locations of many of the entrances and layouts to these tunnels have been published. Much more is likely known. Now I'm sure the Russians have remote locations under mountains that are survivable, but Vlad Q Public aint gonna be there!
Russian equipment has always been inferior to the USA's superior equipment. I think back to all the subs, tanks, airplanes, and assorted weaponry we've seen come from the USSR for the last 80 years. It was all over rated. The Kinsal missile that was supposed to be the dagger in the wests heart turned out to be slower and less advanced than air claimed by Russia. We got our hands on one so we're well aware of its capabilities. There's also the fact that our anti missile batteries shot one of these impossible to shoot missiles out of the sky.
The US population is screwed but if we had underground bunkers, they wouldnt work in large cities that are prime targets either. Besides, after you put yourself in that hole, you have to live in it and feed everyone. I think the best chance of surviveability is to live in and area away from a direct blast and not immediately downwind of one.
visit https://www.nukepills.com/ and https://atlassurvivalshelters.com/ if you have the money to prep.
What I highlighted in red was once true but doesn't apply any longer. America put sufficient pressure on Russia after the breakup of the USSR to drive them into R&D on hypersonic, MIRV, and subs (manned and unmanned), as well as COG and civilian bunker infrastructure.
The US has chased it's tail.
I don't doubt that both nations would suffer immeasurably and the world at large, but more Russians would survive and emerge from their holes than the US... unless we're just talking about leaders and core personnel.
Quote from: caskur on November 18, 2024, 07:43:19 PMI think Frood is impressed with Putins Russia.
Check this out Lokmar and Frood..
Go to the 50.30 minute mark.
God I love her. I really do. She's so passionate.
When she tells you, you know you've been told lol.
She is everything left wing women want to believe they are but fall way short of. Intelligent. Strong. Impactful.
Could you imagine people like Oak and Murd who love to fancy themselves as educated, strong women who "intimidate" men having to go a few rounds with Kelly?
Quote from: Garraty_47 on November 18, 2024, 09:59:29 AMOh he's down with WW3 too; he'd only rather it kicked off with China or in the middle east.
/shrug
Sure hope not. We'd get our asses kicked
I thank all of you.. if the inevitable happens.
Quote from: Dove on November 19, 2024, 06:48:39 AMGod I love her. I really do. She's so passionate.
When she tells you, you know you've been told lol.
She is everything left wing women want to believe they are but fall way short of. Intelligent. Strong. Impactful.
Could you imagine people like Oak and Murd who love to fancy themselves as educated, strong women who "intimidate" men having to go a few rounds with Kelly?
Those two wombat whales don't have the mental fortitude to go a single round with her let alone a few
Within 45 seconds Pug would be saying "you ain't worth my time" while thinking about how the fuck to crawl her fat ass the hella outta dodge
Murd is a complete air head who doesn't even know what planet she's on
Quote from: Frood on November 19, 2024, 01:19:39 AMI don't doubt that both nations would suffer immeasurably and the world at large, but more Russians would survive and emerge from their holes than the US...
(https://i.imgur.com/7PV89cx.gif)
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 19, 2024, 07:26:36 AMSure hope not. We'd get our asses kicked
To quote (paraphrase?) WOPR from 'WarGames':
"
The only winning move is not to play."
We've allowed our economy and even our society to be structured in such a way that it *needs* perpetual war to stave off total collapse. The shot-callers (pun intended) not only won't change course... they CAN'T.
If Trump follows through on his promise to dismantle the deep/permanent state (who aren't going to simply roll over and play dead) there's a non-zero chance we can avoid the worst case scenario but given the totality of his rhetoric and the overall makeup of his appointments so far it doesn't look as if that's likely; we'll only be approaching armageddon from a slightly different angle.
I'd love to be wrong.
I'd never be so happy to admit I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about.
I'm not optimistic for that outcome.
I pray President Biden doesn't provoke a nuclear attack in his final weeks in office.
Quote from: formosan on November 19, 2024, 09:03:16 AMI pray President Biden doesn't provoke a nuclear attack in his final weeks in office.
seems he is trying to do just that
It looks like the missiles they launched were a waste. They all got shot down.
Quote from: Frood on November 18, 2024, 11:31:34 PMYou're overly optimistic and patriotic.
shit.... nows the best time for patriotism and optimism.... i've put all my conspiracy theories on the back burner to focus on a "better world".... i think we still have a chance....
Quote from: deadskinmask on November 19, 2024, 10:03:58 AMshit.... nows the best time for patriotism and optimism.... i've put all my conspiracy theories on the back burner to focus on a "better world".... i think we still have a chance....
The Ukraine douche nozzles just used a western missile to strike a munitions building 70 miles inside the Russian border after being warned... :facepalm:
Quote from: Frood on November 19, 2024, 05:00:10 PMThe Ukraine douche nozzles just used a western missile to strike a munitions building 70 miles inside the Russian border after being warned... :facepalm:
i know.... i've been watching the news with one eye.... but i believe trump is gonna grab the wheel before the inauguration.... i believe the brunson case is about to rock alot of boats....
Quote from: Lokmar on November 19, 2024, 12:38:42 AMThe physics of a direct hit by a nuclear missile arent optimistic. Even our standard non nuclear bunker busters can reach passed 200 feet. While there is no public knowledge proving it, it is assumed that we have nuclear bunker busters that were developed with dark funding. The locations of many of the entrances and layouts to these tunnels have been published. Much more is likely known. Now I'm sure the Russians have remote locations under mountains that are survivable, but Vlad Q Public aint gonna be there!
Russian equipment has always been inferior to the USA's superior equipment. I think back to all the subs, tanks, airplanes, and assorted weaponry we've seen come from the USSR for the last 80 years. It was all over rated. The Kinsal missile that was supposed to be the dagger in the wests heart turned out to be slower and less advanced than air claimed by Russia. We got our hands on one so we're well aware of its capabilities. There's also the fact that our anti missile batteries shot one of these impossible to shoot missiles out of the sky.
The US population is screwed but if we had underground bunkers, they wouldnt work in large cities that are prime targets either. Besides, after you put yourself in that hole, you have to live in it and feed everyone. I think the best chance of surviveability is to live in and area away from a direct blast and not immediately downwind of one.
visit https://www.nukepills.com/ and https://atlassurvivalshelters.com/ if you have the money to prep.
I remember back 25 years ago, roughly, Russia was building over 5000 underground shelters for the civilians, that were to be completed in 2012. If that happened, I don't know. Also, last I heard, here in the US, there are over 200 D.U.M.B.s, but none are for the civilians. A lot of them are even interconnected via magnetic rail systems, which are really fast.
Quote from: Frood on November 19, 2024, 05:00:10 PMThe Ukraine douche nozzles just used a western missile to strike a munitions building 70 miles inside the Russian border after being warned... :facepalm:
A US missile to be specific!