THeBlueCashew

It took less than one week for Carney to show his true colours. He has sold out Canada in his business career and he quickly moved to do that as prime minister.

His tone and his words were a far cry from what he was saying before the election. Elbows up became Carney dropping to his knees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UjidUTGz8

Talking shit to sucking dick in record time  :crampe:

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on May 07, 2025, 12:47:51 PMTalking shit to sucking dick in record time  :crampe:

I knew he was lying his ass off during the election, but I thought it would take longer than one week for him to show that.

Here's what Larry Kudlow, a staunch Republican & former advisor to Trump had to say about the press conference on FOX News:


Even he thinks that Trump is overstepping it with the 51st state rhetoric, but he does remark that it's probably a holdover from the Justin Trudeau days.

Kudlow also goes on to say despite the differences, Canada is NOT the USA's enemy nor should it be treated as such.

Kudlow believes the China should be Trump's focus, not Canada.

Quote from: JOE on May 07, 2025, 01:24:12 PMHere's what Larry Kudlow, a staunch Republican & former advisor to Trump had to say about the press conference on FOX News:

Even he thinks that Trump is overstepping it with the 51st state rhetoric, but he does remark that it's probably a holdover from the Justin Trudeau days.

Kudlow also goes on to say despite the differences, Canada is NOT the USA's enemy nor should it be treated as such.

Kudlow believes the China should be Trump's focus, not Canada.

Sweetie, what has this got to do with your prime minister lying to voters to win an election?

Quote from: Brent on May 07, 2025, 12:42:07 PMIt took less than one week for Carney to show his true colours. He has sold out Canada in his business career and he quickly moved to do that as prime minister.

His tone and his words were a far cry from what he was saying before the election. Elbows up became Carney dropping to his knees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UjidUTGz8

Mark is helping me Make America Great Again.

What happened Conman? You were the man on the campaign trail ready to march into Washington, stand up to Trump, and take on those tariffs.

Instead, you sat there and got steamrolled. Trump mocked the border, joked about the 51st state, basically called Chrystia Freeland an idiot, said they don't even like dealing with her, and reminded everyone how the U.S. subsidizes Canada and defends it with their military.

Oh sure, you did manage to squeeze in a "Canada is not for sale" — but in case you didn't catch it, Mark, he wasn't offering to buy it.
At this rate, he won't have to.

Old white Canadians are realizing now they were fooled by a con artist who has spent his life fooling and cheating people.

Quote from: Thiel on May 07, 2025, 01:54:50 PMSweetie, what has this got to do with your prime minister lying to voters to win an election?

JOEJ answer your master, you piece of shit!!!

Quote from: Shen Li on May 07, 2025, 08:21:12 PMOld white Canadians are realizing now they were fooled by a con artist who has spent his life fooling and cheating people.

I doubt it.

Quote from: Lokmar on May 07, 2025, 08:57:08 PMI doubt it.

I'm sure his performance in Washington has caused some buyer's remorse.

Quote from: Shen Li on May 07, 2025, 09:20:19 PMI'm sure his performance in Washington has caused some buyer's remorse.

Maybe a few, but people tend to lock into and justify their stupidity.

Quote from: Lokmar on May 07, 2025, 10:04:45 PMMaybe a few, but people tend to lock into and justify their stupidity.

Neither of you are wrong.

Quote from: Thiel on May 08, 2025, 01:28:58 PMNeither of you are wrong.

We're an inferwebs power couple!

Quote from: Lokmar on May 08, 2025, 01:30:38 PMWe're an inferwebs power couple!

You and Ms Li are almost as cute as Jo Jo and I.

Quote from: Thiel on May 08, 2025, 01:34:49 PMYou and Ms Li are almost as cute as Jo Jo and I.

You two poofers should get married at Disney Abu Dhabi when it opens!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/07/travel/disney-earnings-new-themepark-abu-dhabi

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Quote from: Shen Li on May 07, 2025, 09:20:19 PMI'm sure his performance in Washington has caused some buyer's remorse.

I don't think Trump nor Carney actually 'won' in this particular exchange Shen Li Shen. It was more a meeting of each side sizing the other up.

There was no knockout blow from either. Contrary to what pro or anti Trump sides claim.

Actually the big winner were the people of Canada because Trump now has a negotiating partner he respects and likes. That should make it easier to get things done. Trumps animosity and dislike towards Trudeau was evident tho.

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Quote from: JOE on May 08, 2025, 04:07:28 PMI don't think Trump nor Carney actually 'won' in this particular exchange Shen Li Shen. It was more a meeting of each side sizing the other up.

There was no knockout blow from either. Contrary to what pro or anti Trump sides claim.

Actually the big winner were the people of Canada because Trump now has a negotiating partner he respects and likes. That should make it easier to get things done. Trumps animosity and dislike towards Trudeau was evident tho.

:crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:
U fukin embarassment! Carney got  RAPED!!!!!  Trump permanently kicked in your leaders pussy!!!  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

Quote from: Lokmar on May 08, 2025, 04:25:42 PM:crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:
U fukin embarassment! Carney got  RAPED!!!!!  Trump permanently kicked in your leaders pussy!!!  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

How?

Carney introduced himself & where he stands.

Trump said he wants to annex Canada but Carney said No. End of story. But that's what they both said months ago

Both Trump & Carney want better trade relations

Seems both need each other to get things done.

How did anyone lose in that meeting...Lokmar?!

Quote from: JOE on May 08, 2025, 05:02:16 PMHow?

Carney introduced himself & where he stands.

Trump said he wants to annex Canada but Carney said No. End of story. But that's what they both said months ago

Both Trump & Carney want better trade relations

Seems both need each other to get things done.

How did anyone lose in that meeting...Lokmar?!

LOL! I knew you would deny your PM's humiliation at Trumps hands! LMFAO@U!

Trump also told Carney to bend over and take our tariffs up his ass! HILARIOUS!  :crampe:

Quote from: Lokmar on May 08, 2025, 05:28:22 PMLOL! I knew you would deny your PM's humiliation at Trumps hands! LMFAO@U!

Trump also told Carney to bend over and take our tariffs up his ass! HILARIOUS!  :crampe:

Only problem Canada will buy & sell more to & from Europe and Asia.

And that transition is already underway:

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Most frauds can last a few months. Carnage revealed himself after 1 week.

Quote from: JOE on May 08, 2025, 05:38:29 PMOnly problem Canada will buy & sell more to & from Europe and Asia.

And that transition is already underway:

Hey dummy, your PM was ritually HUMILIATED by Trump. Trump DGAF about you or your shitty parasitic country. Trump gave that dude a proper cunting!

Quote from: Lokmar on May 08, 2025, 11:16:26 PMHey dummy, your PM was ritually HUMILIATED by Trump. Trump DGAF about you or your shitty parasitic country. Trump gave that dude a proper cunting!

Again how did Carney get humiliated Lokmar?

And why does the Liberal press insist that Carney humiliated Trump?

I thought neither was true.

If Trump scored a public relations victory it's only that he didn't have a major blowup this time like when Zelinskyy visited. At least this time Trump was on hos best behavior.

I more like to think both Canada & the US won in that meeting because Trump seems to have found someone he respects and is willing to work with. Win win for both countries.

Likewise Trump likes Starmer so he managed to reach a deal with Britain. Again win win for both sides.

If Trump doesn't like someone like was the case with Trudeau it's no good for the negotiations.

AB and SK are gonna have to get a wriggle on if they expect to get out from under the boot of ottawa. Con-Artist is going to want to pump those prairie oil sands dry and sell it off to China in order to make up the shortfall of revenue.

Quote from: JOE on May 09, 2025, 01:51:51 AMAgain how did Carney get humiliated Lokmar?

Yeah, didn't you know Lokmar, in Canadia getting bent over and sodomized on international television is considered a Win by boner buffers like JoHoMo!

Quote from: . on May 09, 2025, 02:13:53 AMAB and SK are gonna have to get a wriggle on if they expect to get out from under the boot of ottawa. Con-Artist is going to want to pump those prairie oil sands dry and sell it off to China in order to make up the shortfall of revenue.

Yeah, didn't you know Lokmar, in Canadia getting bent over and sodomized on international television is considered a Win by boner buffers like JoHoMo!

SAVAGE!!!!  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

Quote from: JOE on May 09, 2025, 01:51:51 AMAgain how did Carney get humiliated Lokmar?

And why does the Liberal press insist that Carney humiliated Trump?

I thought neither was true.

If Trump scored a public relations victory it's only that he didn't have a major blowup this time like when Zelinskyy visited. At least this time Trump was on hos best behavior.

I more like to think both Canada & the US won in that meeting because Trump seems to have found someone he respects and is willing to work with. Win win for both countries.

Likewise Trump likes Starmer so he managed to reach a deal with Britain. Again win win for both sides.

If Trump doesn't like someone like was the case with Trudeau it's no good for the negotiations.

When Trump told him and everyone else:
1. Cucknadia PM cant do anything about the tariffs
2. We dont want Cucknadian steel
3. We dont want Cucknadian Aluminum
4. We dont want Cucknadian cars
5. Us not taking Cucknadian cars will ruin Cucknadia
6. We dont really want ANYTHING from Cucknadia
7. Cucknadia is a deadbeat not paying its fair share of its fucking defense
8. associated with #7, America has had to defend Cucknadia for decades

I bet I could come up with more if you need, dipshit!  :crampe:

Quote from: . on May 09, 2025, 02:13:53 AMAB and SK are gonna have to get a wriggle on if they expect to get out from under the boot of ottawa. Con-Artist is going to want to pump those prairie oil sands dry and sell it off to China in order to make up the shortfall of revenue.

The only pipeline in Canada to tidewater is Transmountain and if everything in it went to China(a lot of it goes to the West of the US), it would never "dry out" the oilsands.

Carney's plan is to double down on what Trudeau did and landlock our most valuable exports. His enegy corridor talk is about replacing coal and natural gas with Chinese made wind turbines, driving up energy costs. Carney is an extreme climate nut and he is happy having Canada reliant on the US market. This is why he might be the last prime minister of a united Canada.

Quote from: Lokmar on May 09, 2025, 09:19:50 AMWhen Trump told him and everyone else:
1. Cucknadia PM cant do anything about the tariffs
2. We dont want Cucknadian steel
3. We dont want Cucknadian Aluminum
4. We dont want Cucknadian cars
5. Us not taking Cucknadian cars will ruin Cucknadia
6. We dont really want ANYTHING from Cucknadia
7. Cucknadia is a deadbeat not paying its fair share of its fucking defense
8. associated with #7, America has had to defend Cucknadia for decades

I bet I could come up with more if you need, dipshit!  :crampe:

But Canada's trade is growing outside if the US Bud.

Pretty soon Asia n Europe will replace the US as our major trading partners.

More like America needs us more than we need them, eh Lokmar?

Trump was not responsible for giving the Liberals a fourth term. Not really, it was the low information Canadian voter. Especially in Eastern Canada.

We had a fake "businessman" with no ties to Canada other than blocking our development parachuted receiving a lot of money coronated despite his party's horrible record.

Quote from: Lokmar on May 08, 2025, 01:42:53 PMYou two poofers should get married at Disney Abu Dhabi when it opens!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/07/travel/disney-earnings-new-themepark-abu-dhabi

Jo Jo and I were thinking about Puerto Vallarta. It's the gay capital of Mexico.

Quote from: DKG on May 09, 2025, 10:49:40 AMThe only pipeline in Canada to tidewater is Transmountain and if everything in it went to China(a lot of it goes to the West of the US), it would never "dry out" the oilsands.

Carney's plan is to double down on what Trudeau did and landlock our most valuable exports. His enegy corridor talk is about replacing coal and natural gas with Chinese made wind turbines, driving up energy costs. Carney is an extreme climate nut and he is happy having Canada reliant on the US market. This is why he might be the last prime minister of a united Canada.

He did recently indicate he was prepared to use some of it; I distinctly remember that being discussed here briefly at The Cashew as little as a week or two ago. Granted; "some" is not "all" and while he hasn't telegraphed a desire to scale up the amount, I wouldn't advise taking the weasel's word on anything. Especially not in light of the recent chat  with Trump. I would not put it past him to make up the shortfall incurred in revenue that the Canadian economy might have enjoyed were Trump not looking out for US interests by approving a larger amount of oil be allocated to China. And I would not put it past him to curry favour with China by making any such prospective arrangement a "sweetheart deal".

This is of course conjecture on my part and yes, I admit to engaging in hyperbole to make the point. It will take the fullness of time to tell if my jaundiced view of Carney's "character is well founded or not; I tend to think my suspicions are reasonably founded however. Carney ran on the promise he could be tough on Trump's tariffs, we've seen just how full of shit that idea was and he will need to feed his slush funds and political ambitions somehow. If I am proven right, it will not be done as a new benefit for Canada and certainly not Alberta.  Getting out ahead of any such potential by seceding from Canada is (I think) a wise move. We know he is a cunt, we must necessarily take measures to make it difficult for him to be one at our expense and to his benefit.

I mean he might instead prefer to honour his word regarding the minimal use of that resource. I could be being grossly unfair to the guy. Would you be prepared to wager that such was the case? I surely wouldn't; I know his type.

Quote from: JOE on May 09, 2025, 11:31:22 AMBut Canada's trade is growing outside if the US Bud.

Pretty soon Asia n Europe will replace the US as our major trading partners.

More like America needs us more than we need them, eh Lokmar?

Your surrender is noted josephine! Out of all the numbers, which one was the worst for Carney?  :popcorn:

Quote from: Lokmar on May 09, 2025, 11:23:21 PMYour surrender is noted josephine! Out of all the numbers, which one was the worst for Carney?  :popcorn:

You'll know who won or lost in that exchange when new trade deals are announced & the results show.

Until that time nobody won or lost in that Carney Trump meeting. It was just a way for them to become acquainted. That's all Lokmar.

Quote from: JOE on May 09, 2025, 11:27:54 PMYou'll know who won or lost in that exchange when new trade deals are announced & the results show.

Until that time nobody won or lost in that Carney Trump meeting. It was just a way for them to become acquainted. That's all Lokmar.

Which number that I provided as irrefutable proof was the most humiliating tho?  :popcorn:

Quote from: JOE on May 09, 2025, 01:51:51 AMAgain how did Carney get humiliated Lokmar?

And why does the Liberal press insist that Carney humiliated Trump?

I thought neither was true.

If Trump scored a public relations victory it's only that he didn't have a major blowup this time like when Zelinskyy visited. At least this time Trump was on hos best behavior.

I more like to think both Canada & the US won in that meeting because Trump seems to have found someone he respects and is willing to work with. Win win for both countries.

Likewise Trump likes Starmer so he managed to reach a deal with Britain. Again win win for both sides.

If Trump doesn't like someone like was the case with Trudeau it's no good for the negotiations.

Lets try this again, josephine. Answer the question!

Quote from: Lokmar on May 09, 2025, 09:19:50 AMWhen Trump told him and everyone else:
1. Cucknadia PM cant do anything about the tariffs
2. We dont want Cucknadian steel
3. We dont want Cucknadian Aluminum
4. We dont want Cucknadian cars
5. Us not taking Cucknadian cars will ruin Cucknadia
6. We dont really want ANYTHING from Cucknadia
7. Cucknadia is a deadbeat not paying its fair share of its fucking defense
8. associated with #7, America has had to defend Cucknadia for decades

I bet I could come up with more if you need, dipshit!  :crampe:

Quote from: Brent on May 09, 2025, 12:11:03 PMTrump was not responsible for giving the Liberals a fourth term. Not really, it was the low information Canadian voter. Especially in Eastern Canada.

I thought Trump was responsible for a 4th Liberal term Brent Brent

And that's what Trump wanted.

Plus he managed to 'fire' Trudeau. I'll give Trump full credit for that. But many Liberals were actually grateful that he did it for them. Trump accomplished what the Liberal party could not force Trudeau to do - step down! It was a bloody gift too.

If Trump had the same amount of animosity towards Carney, that meeting would not have gone smoothly at all.

Quote from: Lokmar on May 09, 2025, 11:32:50 PMLets try this again, josephine. Answer the question!

Carney campaigned on toughness towards Trump(but not China) during the election. On their first meeting he was as meek as I have ever seen any prime minister of any country act.

Carney and Trump are a lot closer than they pretend.

Quote from: JOE on May 09, 2025, 11:35:12 PMI thought Trump was responsible for a 4th Liberal term Brent Brent

And that's what Trump wanted.

Plus he managed to 'fire' Trudeau. I'll give Trump full credit for that. But many Liberals were actually grateful that he did it for them. Trump accomplished what the Liberal party could not force Trudeau to do - step down! It was a bloody gift too.

If Trump had the same amount of animosity towards Carney, that meeting would not have gone smoothly at all.

Hey you dickfaced coward, you STILL havent answered me.

Quote from: DKG on May 10, 2025, 09:56:16 AMCarney campaigned on toughness towards Trump(but not China) during the election. On their first meeting he was as meek as I have ever seen any prime minister of any country act.

Carney and Trump are a lot closer than they pretend.

Because China lent him and his WEF pals 1/4 of a billion dollars.

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Quote from: JOE on May 09, 2025, 11:31:22 AMBut Canada's trade is growing outside if the US Bud.

Pretty soon Asia n Europe will replace the US as our major trading partners.

More like America needs us more than we need them, eh Lokmar?

I knew I could count on gullible Canadians like you.  :laughinatu:

The province of Ontario is going to have the biggest case of buyer's remorse.

Mark Carney was elected to negotiate a good deal with Trump to save automotive jobs in Ontario. Melanie Joly announced $2 billion in support crumbs for automotive workers who will be losing their jobs.

If the auto industry goes, there will be open revolt within the Liberal Party.

Carney had better get at least 1 pipeline built during his term that can export oil and/or gas to Europe.

If he doesn't I'll be majorly disappointed.

He said during the campaign that he wants a strong energy plan that includes traditional and new forms of energy.

Relying upon oil/gas for revenue isnt even a Conservative or Liberal issue. Its Canada's bread and butter, allows it to pay its Bills

The cancellation of the Keystone pipeline by Biden in the US may well have cost the Democrats the 2024 election. So hopefully the Liberals learn from their American counterparts mistake.

Quote from: JOE on May 15, 2025, 12:40:16 PMCarney had better get at least 1 pipeline built during his term that can export oil and/or gas to Europe.

If he doesn't I'll be majorly disappointed.

He said during the campaign that he wants a strong energy plan that includes traditional and new forms of energy.

Relying upon oil/gas for revenue isnt even a Conservative or Liberal issue. Its Canada's bread and butter, allows it to pay its Bills

The cancellation of the Keystone pipeline by Biden in the US may well have cost the Democrats the 2024 election. So hopefully the Liberals learn from their American counterparts mistake.

Sweetie, no he didn't. He made no commitment at all to get a pipeline to tidewater built. He has committed to keeping the no new pipelines C-69.

What he has said is that is "We have to choose a few projects, a few big projects, not necessarily pipelines, but maybe pipelines. We'll see."

He has also stated that there has to be a "consensus" to get a single pipeline built. That is a hole big enough to drive a semi through.

So, your radical climate nut pm will continue to sit on the fence sending mixed signals while maintaining Trudeau legislation that suffocated hundreds of billions of dollars in investment.

If you want new pipelines and LNG exports facilities, Pierre Pollivere was who you should have voted for.

I had no intention of saving auto sector or energy sector jobs.

I have made it my mission to kill good jobs in Canada even after I became a candidate for prime minister when I moved jobs to New York.

My Culture Minister Steven Guilbeault gave a speech why another pipeline will not be built on my watch citing false stats from the IEA and the capacity of the TMX expansion. Canadians will buy it.

Think about it. Would I keep the emissions cap, the anti tanker and the no new pipelines bills if I was going to approve and speed up a new pipeline to international waters. Would I have appointed radical anti oil activist Jilie Dabrusin Minister of Environment and Climate Change if I was serious about building pipelines or LNG exports facilities.

You Canadians are naive, but did you really think new markets would open up for products I have been trying to keep in the ground for the last thirty years.  :s_laugh:

I have never said a new international pipeline will be built and I never will because it will not happen on my watch.

Quote from: Thiel on May 15, 2025, 01:31:50 PMSweetie, no he didn't. He made no commitment at all to get a pipeline to tidewater built. He has committed to keeping the no new pipelines C-69.

What he has said is that is "We have to choose a few projects, a few big projects, not necessarily pipelines, but maybe pipelines. We'll see."

He has also stated that there has to be a "consensus" to get a single pipeline built. That is a hole big enough to drive a semi through.

So, your radical climate nut pm will continue to sit on the fence sending mixed signals while maintaining Trudeau legislation that suffocated hundreds of billions of dollars in investment.

If you want new pipelines and LNG exports facilities, Pierre Pollivere was who you should have voted for.

JOEJ josephine, message from Thiel!

Quote from: Mark Carney on May 15, 2025, 02:16:02 PMI had no intention of saving auto sector or energy sector jobs.

I have made it my mission to kill good jobs in Canada even after I became a candidate for prime minister when I moved jobs to New York.

My Culture Minister Steven Guilbeault gave a speech why another pipeline will not be built on my watch citing false stats from the IEA and the capacity of the TMX expansion. Canadians will buy it.

Think about it. Would I keep the emissions cap, the anti tanker and the no new pipelines bills if I was going to approve and speed up a new pipeline to international waters. Would I have appointed radical anti oil activist Jilie Dabrusin Minister of Environment and Climate Change if I was serious about building pipelines or LNG exports facilities.

You Canadians are naive, but did you really think new markets would open up for products I have been trying to keep in the ground for the last thirty years.  :s_laugh:

I have never said a new international pipeline will be built and I never will because it will not happen on my watch.

We'll see.

You should be given a chance to prove yourself Mark Carney Mark.

As a Liberal voter I support new pipelines like Energy East.

If the Liberals expanded pipelines like the Trans Mountain in my province of BC, people in Ontario and Quebec should accept pipeline expansion in their province too.

Quote from: Brent on May 15, 2025, 12:30:57 PMThe province of Ontario is going to have the biggest case of buyer's remorse.

Mark Carney was elected to negotiate a good deal with Trump to save automotive jobs in Ontario. Melanie Joly announced $2 billion in support crumbs for automotive workers who will be losing their jobs.

If the auto industry goes, there will be open revolt within the Liberal Party.

Looks good on those old Central Canadians who voted for Conman Carney. But, they aint the ones who will feel the squeeze of his radical agenda.

Quote from: Thiel on May 15, 2025, 01:31:50 PMSweetie, no he didn't. He made no commitment at all to get a pipeline to tidewater built. He has committed to keeping the no new pipelines C-69.

What he has said is that is "We have to choose a few projects, a few big projects, not necessarily pipelines, but maybe pipelines. We'll see."

He has also stated that there has to be a "consensus" to get a single pipeline built. That is a hole big enough to drive a semi through.

So, your radical climate nut pm will continue to sit on the fence sending mixed signals while maintaining Trudeau legislation that suffocated hundreds of billions of dollars in investment.

If you want new pipelines and LNG exports facilities, Pierre Pollivere was who you should have voted for.

PP had the backs of working folks. Conman Carney has the backs of Davos billionaires.

Quote from: Herman on May 15, 2025, 03:59:18 PMLooks good on those old Central Canadians who voted for Conman Carney. But, they aint the ones who will feel the squeeze of his radical agenda.

The West matters hey Herman Herm?

So do those pipelines.

Is evident that a lack of them in the eastern provinces is putting a strain on National unity.

Therefore they should be built for the greater good

Thiel that old boyfriend of yours still replies to my posts knowing I cannot read em. I get the alerts every frickin day.

Aint that pathetic.

Quote from: Herman on May 15, 2025, 03:59:18 PMLooks good on those old Central Canadians who voted for Conman Carney. But, they aint the ones who will feel the squeeze of his radical agenda.

I feel for young Ontarians who did not vote for Mark Carney. They will feel the consequences of Mark Carney's agenda. They already are.

Quote from: JOE on May 15, 2025, 04:42:31 PMThe West matters hey Herman Herm?

So do those pipelines.

Is evident that a lack of them in the eastern provinces is putting a strain on National unity.

Therefore they should be built for the greater good

Sweetie, what did I tell you this morning after we had sex about contradicting yourself.

If pipelines were important to you and the economic vitality of Canada you would not have voted for a radical climate activist who has promised to maintain Trudeau's legislation that blocks energy development and new markets.

Quote from: JOE on May 15, 2025, 03:57:18 PMWe'll see.

You should be given a chance to prove yourself Mark Carney Mark.

As a Liberal voter I support new pipelines like Energy East.

If the Liberals expanded pipelines like the Trans Mountain in my province of BC, people in Ontario and Quebec should accept pipeline expansion in their province too.

Honeybunch if you support Energy East you should have voted for the party that encouraged it not the party that killed it.

Pussycat, remember I explained to you after we had sex last night that the Liberals wanted TMX to be expensive for taxpayers instead of being built with private money. That is why they chased away Kinder Morgan with ever moving goal posts. Then they changed laws so that no new pipeline to tidewater will ever be built. Mark Carney supported the no new pipelines law and he has said more than once it will remain the law of the land.

Sweetie, Mr Carney fooled you.

Quote from: JOE on May 15, 2025, 03:57:18 PMWe'll see.

You should be given a chance to prove yourself Mark Carney Mark.

As a Liberal voter I support new pipelines like Energy East.

If the Liberals expanded pipelines like the Trans Mountain in my province of BC, people in Ontario and Quebec should accept pipeline expansion in their province too.

I already have proven myself. Before the election and since.

No new development, no new markets and screw Ontario's auto industry.

I work for the WEF not Canadians.

Quote from: Mark Carney on May 16, 2025, 02:15:32 PMI already have proven myself. Before the election and since.

No new development, no new markets and screw Ontario's auto industry.

I work for the WEF not Canadians.

Like I said, I'll give you a chance to prove herself Mark Carney Mark Carney.

But just one chance.

My own take is that while the planet shouldn't rely upon fossil fuels forever, they're still a necessary step that's needed to introduce newer alternative energy sources.

In other words, to pay for the new energy infrastructure Canada still needs income from fossil fuels. Environmentalists are wrong thinking that we can ditch traditional energy right now & switch to alternative energy overnight.

I think itll take at least 25 years to transition to new energy sources. But probably 50. We can't just just shut off fossil fuels because our economy has been reliant upon them for at least 200. That's a lotta legacy to undo.

So fossil fuels will be with us for much longer whether we like it or not. Probably at least until all of us on this board have passed away.

Maybe we should concentrate on finding cleaner extraction & consumption methods.

Quote from: JOE on May 16, 2025, 02:40:12 PMLike I said, I'll give you a chance to prove herself Mark Carney Mark Carney.

But just one chance.

My own take is that while the planet shouldn't rely upon fossil fuels forever, they're still a necessary step that's needed to introduce newer alternative energy sources.

In other words, to pay for the new energy infrastructure Canada still needs income from fossil fuels. Environmentalists are wrong thinking that we can ditch traditional energy right now & switch to alternative energy overnight.

I think itll take at least 25 years to transition to new energy sources. But probably 50. We can't just just shut off fossil fuels because our economy has been reliant upon them for at least 200. That's a lotta legacy to undo.

So fossil fuels will be with us for much longer whether we like it or not. Probably at least until all of us on this board have passed away.

Maybe we should concentrate on finding cleaner extraction & consumption methods.

Sugar Buns, I have explained to you after we have sex that he has already proven himself. Before and after the election.

He has made it clear that he will keep in place the laws that he advised Mr Trudeau on that kept new Canadian energy in the ground and closed to new markets.

If you were serious about finding new markets for your country's energy exports you should have voted for the only federal candidate who promised new pipelines and new markets and that is Mr Pollivere.

Do you understand now honeybuns or do you need to give me more oral sex first before you can think?

On a scale of 1-10, how big of a liar is Mark Carney?
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Did you expect Mark Cponman Carney to fail this bad this quickly? Even old Herman is kind of astonished.
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Who do you think is the bigger liar?
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It's funny watching Liberal elites regret their vote.

That out of touch progtard asshole Andrew Coyne says we have been had by Carney. Settle down you progtard know-it-all. There is no "we" hare. The working class like me was telling elitists like you that you would regret your vote because there is no evidence at all the Liberal Party has changed since Trudeau stepped down in favour of his advisor Carney.

I want pass on something I read today.

Carney Lied to Canadians. Repeatedly. And Now We're Paying the Price.
Mark Carney's rise to power was Canada's gravest political mistake. He promised strength. He promised retaliation. Instead, he secretly surrendered.
On April 11, Carney's government quietly slashed tariffs to "nearly zero" behind closed doors.
Yet what did he tell Canadians after that?
• April 17: "We'll fight back with counter tariffs."
• April 20: "We are fighting back with tariffs of our own that are causing maximum damage."
• April 27: "We're fighting them with our own tariffs."
All lies. Bold-faced, deliberate lies.
While he fed Canadians scripted lines of defiance, his policies neutered our economic defense and exposed Canadian industries to unchecked foreign manipulation.
This isn't just dishonesty. It is calculated betrayal.
Carney is not a fresh start. He is Trudeau 2.0, with a globalist mask and the same corrupted playbook. His Cabinet is a recycled mix of the same incompetent, virtue-signaling, far-left elitists that led Trudeau's failed regime. It is not a government. It is a Liberal con job in a new suit.
They didn't drain the swamp. They reinforced it.
Carney's Liberals will say anything to win votes, but behind the curtain, it's the same ideology that crushed our energy sector, drove away investment, and turned our once-proud economy into a playground for foreign interests.
He betrayed the West. He betrayed industry. He betrayed YOU.
This is not leadership.
This is not strength.
This is appeasement wrapped in deception.
Canada deserves better than a Prime Minister who lies to your face while kneeling to globalist pressure behind your back.
It's time to take our country back. From the elites. From the liars. From the frauds wearing red.

You didn't think you could get a Prime Minister who was even more shameless than Justine.
Now you know.
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Are you Carney voters feeling stupid yet? You should

QuoteAs it turns out, Prime Minister Mark Carney's election strategy of publicly talking tough about taking on U.S. President Donald Trump in his tariff/trade war, while practising a far more conciliatory approach behind the scenes, was hiding in plain sight all the time.

Ian Bremmer, president of New York-based Eurasia Group, a political risk analysis firm with close ties to Carney, accurately predicted this strategy in a March 26 column titled, "The end of the transatlantic relationship as we know it."

Unlike Mexico, which took a more conciliatory approach, he wrote, "Canadian leaders have a political incentive to put up a bigger fight because Trump's threats toward Canada's economy and sovereignty have sharply inflamed nationalist sentiment north of the border in the run-up to the April 28 elections. However, I expect Ottawa will quietly fold shortly after the vote to ensure that ongoing relations with the U.S. remain functional."

This now appears to have been the Liberals' successful election strategy all along.

Carney initially said "dollar-for-dollar retaliatory tariffs by Canada" against the U.S. "should be a given" during the Liberal leadership race – "elbows up" as the popular saying went.

But after becoming prime minister, Carney said this was unrealistic given that the Canadian economy is "a tenth the size of the U.S."

According to a Bloomberg News report in the National Post last week, on May 7 – the day after Carney's cordial meeting with Trump in the White House and nine days after Carney won the election – "Canada ... effectively suspended almost all of its retaliatory tariffs on U.S. products," having "announced a six-month tariff exemption for products used in Canadian manufacturing, processing and food and beverage packaging, and for items related to health care, public safety and national security.

Tony Stillo, of Oxford Economics, told Bloomberg that based on his firm's calculations, Canada's tariff-rate increase on the U.S. is now "nearly zero," adding, "It's a very strategic approach from a new prime minister to really say, 'We're not going to have a retaliation.'"

That's very different from Carney's messaging during the campaign.

Was Bremmer able to predict the Liberals' strategy in advance because of the close ties between Carney and Eurasia Group?

Gerald Butts, former principal secretary to prime minister Justin Trudeau and an adviser to the Carney campaign, is vice-chairman of the Eurasia Group.

Evan Solomon, the newly-elected Liberal MP for Toronto Centre, is a longtime friend of Carney, who appointed him as Canada's first minister of artificial intelligence last week. Prior to that, Solomon was publisher of GZERO Media, a Eurasia Group subsidiary.

Carney's spouse, Diana Fox Carney, joined Eurasia Group in 2021 as a senior advisor on climate and energy policy.

Conservative MP Michelle Rempel Garner noted these connections in a March 27 substack column where she asked, "Why is a firm closely related with Mark Carney and the Liberals telling the world to expect that Canada will acquiesce to American demands after the election ... did Bremmer arrive at his conclusion Canada would 'have to accept Trump's terms eventually' and 'Ottawa would quietly fold shortly after the vote' from discussions with any of these people? Should it be taken as the Liberals' post election plan for tariffs should they form government ... it's a question worth asking."

"That's because ... it's not a stretch to imagine that after tricking the Canadian electorate into giving them a fourth term, the Liberals would, in fact, simply capitulate to Trump's demands," Rempel Garner said while noting, "Trump's recent comment that he'd prefer the Liberals to win because it would be better for him."

There's nothing surprising about the Liberals pursuing one strategy in public and a different one in private for political gain. And while the economic threat posed by Trump's tariffs hasn't gone away, he appears, for now, to be backing off the most severe sanctions aimed at Canada.

That said, Carney's "elbows up" rhetoric during the campaign appears to have been done mainly for show.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-elbows-up-was-liberal-rhetoric-while-policy-was-quietly-fold-on-tariffs

Quote from: Brent on May 19, 2025, 01:04:05 PMAre you Carney voters feeling stupid yet? You should
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-elbows-up-was-liberal-rhetoric-while-policy-was-quietly-fold-on-tariffs

Suckers :crampe:

Quote from: Mark Carney on May 19, 2025, 02:57:13 PMSuckers :crampe:

Are they ever.

Quote from: Brent on May 19, 2025, 01:04:05 PMAre you Carney voters feeling stupid yet? You should.

Not yet Brent Brent.

I'm gonna give Mark Carney Mark Carney one chance ta prove himself.

If he's a smart enough nut he should have at least some common sense to do what is best fer Canada. Haven't given up on him yet.

But Poilievre is still worthy of consideration when the next election is called as I imagine he'll still be around then. I actually like some of his ideas & the Liberals should adopt some of them.

I hope the Liberals get an Energy East pipeline of some sort to trade more with Europe. If Carney truly wants more trade with Europe he's gotta sell more oil & gas to the EU.

Quote from: JOE on May 20, 2025, 12:28:01 PMNot yet Brent Brent.

I'm gonna give Mark Carney Mark Carney one chance ta prove himself.

If he's a smart enough nut he should have at least some common sense to do what is best fer Canada. Haven't given up on him yet.

But Poilievre is still worthy of consideration when the next election is called as I imagine he'll still be around then. I actually like some of his ideas & the Liberals should adopt some of them.

I hope the Liberals get an Energy East pipeline of some sort to trade more with Europe. If Carney truly wants more trade with Europe he's gotta sell more oil & gas to the EU.

Sweetie I explained to you this morning after I fucked you that no new pipelines can be built because your Mr Carney is keeping C-69, the emissions cap and the Impact Assessment which shuts down any new markets for your country's energy.

And Mr Carney has already stolen most of Pollivere's ideas. The consumer carbon tax would still exist if not for Mr Pollivere.

Quote from: Thiel on May 20, 2025, 12:41:57 PMSweetie I explained to you this morning after I fucked you that no new pipelines can be built because your Mr Carney is keeping C-69, the emissions cap and the Impact Assessment which shuts down any new markets for your country's energy.

And Mr Carney has already stolen most of Pollivere's idea. The consumer carbon tax would still exist if not for Mr Mr Pollivere.

The only way new pipelines are going to be built is if Alberta leaves Canada. Carney's main advisor Gerald Butts has made that clear.

Elbows up so I can pick your pockets.

Speaking of Liberal Party lies, inflation was at it's lowest level in a very long time in the month of April. There is one reason only for that - dropping the consumer carbon tax.

Remember for years the Trudeau government said their "price on pollution" was not inflationary? They lied.

But, don't worry, inflation will go up again and by design. When Mr Carney implements his industrial carbon tax and border adjustment mechanism which is essentially a carbon tariff on imports, Canadians will be forced to pay more for everything.

Quote from: Brent on May 21, 2025, 12:24:48 PMThe only way new pipelines are going to be built is if Alberta leaves Canada. Carney's main advisor Gerald Butts has made that clear.

And then Alberta will be owned by the large corporations & told what ta do by Washington DC.

Same situation as before just different masters.

Plus they'll just milk Alberta for all it's worth only worse than what Ottawa does currently Brent Brent.

Nothing changes just because a province switches allegiances. Same issues remain & the obligations become more severe.

If Alberta feels bullied now itd be even worse if they were part of the USA.

Quote from: JOE on May 21, 2025, 02:31:15 PMAnd then Alberta will be owned by the large corporations & told what ta do by Washington DC.

Same situation as before just different masters.

Plus they'll just milk Alberta for all it's worth only worse than what Ottawa does currently Brent Brent.

Nothing changes just because a province switches allegiances. Same issues remain & the obligations become more severe.

If Alberta feels bullied now itd be even worse if they were part of the USA.

Yea josephine? I'm sure all those people in the Dakota's making bank off the oil fields feel reeeeeal brutalized!  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:
PWN3D!

Quote from: Lokmar on May 21, 2025, 02:48:18 PMYea josephine? I'm sure all those people in the Dakota's making bank off the oil fields feel reeeeeal brutalized!  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:
PWN3D!

There is no equalization to buy votes in the US. And you have a triple E senate. If we get rid of the first and adopt the second Alberta and Saskatchewan would be as rich as Alaska, North Dakota or Texas.

Quote from: Thiel on May 21, 2025, 01:33:21 PMSpeaking of Liberal Party lies, inflation was at it's lowest level in a very long time in the month of April. There is one reason only for that - dropping the consumer carbon tax.

Remember for years the Trudeau government said their "price on pollution" was not inflationary? They lied.

But, don't worry, inflation will go up again and by design. When Mr Carney implements his industrial carbon tax and border adjustment mechanism which is essentially a carbon tariff on imports, Canadians will be forced to pay more for everything.

Our premier is refusing to collect Conman Carney's industrial carbon tax. :good:

Because of prog dickheads like Conman Carney.
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Quote from: JOE on May 21, 2025, 02:31:15 PMAnd then Alberta will be owned by the large corporations & told what ta do by Washington DC.

Same situation as before just different masters.

Plus they'll just milk Alberta for all it's worth only worse than what Ottawa does currently Brent Brent.

Nothing changes just because a province switches allegiances. Same issues remain & the obligations become more severe.

If Alberta feels bullied now itd be even worse if they were part of the USA.

Sugarplum I explained to you after you game me oral sex this morning that even if AOC became president it would be impossible for Washingtom to trample Alberta the way your Liberal Party has. An elected senate, no equalization scams and a constitution that clearly defines the roles of the federal and state governments keeps oil rich states like Alaska and North Dakota from being bullied by Democratic presidents.

North Dakota has a GDP per capita of $94,021. Saskatchewan right across the border and sharing the same Bakken oilfield is only $67, 221 per year. Even Alberta, the highest in Canada is $71,564.

North Dakota has no state income tax or sales tax. They have a massive sovereign wealth fund because they do not have to give $20 billion dollars a year to states that do not develop their resources.

Understand now Sweetie, or do you have to get back on your knees.

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Quote from: Thiel on May 21, 2025, 07:05:52 PMSugarplum I explained to you after you game me oral sex this morning that even if AOC became president it would be impossible for Washingtom to trample Alberta the way your Liberal Party has. An elected senate, no equalization scams and a constitution that clearly defines the roles of the federal and state governments keeps oil rich states like Alaska and North Dakota from being bullied by Democratic presidents.

North Dakota has a GDP per capita of $94,021. Saskatchewan right across the border and sharing the same Bakken oilfield is only $67, 221 per year. Even Alberta, the highest in Canada is $71,564.

North Dakota has no state income tax or sales tax. They have a massive sovereign wealth fund because they do not have to give $20 billion dollars a year to states that do not develop their resources.

Understand now Sweetie, or do you have to get back on your knees.

States with oil are so much better off than Alberta and Saskatchewan.

I used to want an independent Alberta and Saskatchewan. But, Canada is so frickin evil they will cheat us out on what we paid into CPP and screw us over any way they can.

We have to declare independence first and then immediately seek union with the US. They will ensure Canada does not fuck us over.

Quote from: Herman on May 21, 2025, 07:41:06 PMStates with oil are so much better off than Alberta and Saskatchewan.

I used to want an independent Alberta and Saskatchewan. But, Canada is so frickin evil they will cheat us out on what we paid into CPP and screw us over any way they can.

We have to declare independence first and then immediately seek union with the US. They will ensure Canada does not fuck us over.

Of course the USA wants Alberta like prize hey Herman Herm?

They're $37 Trillion in the hole. The US needs every drop of Alberta oil they can get to keep the American Century going. And they'll squeeze Alberta like a well used dish rag to pay for its massive deficits & bloated Military Industrial Complex.

In which case they wont stop at Alberta. Saskatchewan would be next & after that BC, the Yukon then the North West territories.

Enjoy paying the Empure's Bill's, hey Herm?

Quote from: JOE on May 21, 2025, 07:57:16 PMOf course the USA wants Alberta like prize hey Herman Herm?

They're $37 Trillion in the hole. The US needs every drop of Alberta oil they can get to keep the American Century going. And they'll squeeze Alberta like a well used dish rag to pay for its massive deficits & bloated Military Industrial Complex.

In which case they wont stop at Alberta. Saskatchewan would be next & after that BC, the Yukon then the North West territories.

Enjoy paying the Empure's Bill's, hey Herm?

Angeldrawers, Washington has kept quiet on the Alberta sovereignty question.

The question is why isn't the federal government of Canada acting like they want the prairie provinces to stay.

The wealth gap between Canada and the U.S. has only grown wider, according to figures published by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). Your biggest province has a GDP about the same as West Virginia.

Millions of people in Canada rely on food banks for their daily needs. The American economy grew twenty percent in the last decade while your country's economy grew 1.9 percent.

Paul Beaudry served as deputy governor of the Bank of Canada from 2019 and 2023 and is now a professor at the Vancouver School of Economics at UBC.

"Relative to other countries, we're getting collectively poorer," Beaudry told CBC News. "And it's not only relative to the U.S., it's relative to a lot of other countries. We're in the laggard group."

Canadian consumers are the most indebted in the G20. Nobody wants to invest in Canada.

Even the way Canada calculates net public debt is very misleading. Even worse, your country's gross debt is equal to 111 per cent of our GDP, which isn't good by anyone's standards.

Larry Schembri, a senior fellow at the Fraser Institute and a former deputy governor of the Bank of Canada expects emigration to America to accelerate even if Alberta stays. If it leaves, a broke dysfunctional Canada will beg the US to admit it.

Quote from: Thiel on May 21, 2025, 07:05:52 PMSugarplum I explained to you after you game me oral sex this morning that even if AOC became president it would be impossible for Washingtom to trample Alberta the way your Liberal Party has. An elected senate, no equalization scams and a constitution that clearly defines the roles of the federal and state governments keeps oil rich states like Alaska and North Dakota from being bullied by Democratic presidents.

North Dakota has a GDP per capita of $94,021. Saskatchewan right across the border and sharing the same Bakken oilfield is only $67, 221 per year. Even Alberta, the highest in Canada is $71,564.

North Dakota has no state income tax or sales tax. They have a massive sovereign wealth fund because they do not have to give $20 billion dollars a year to states that do not develop their resources.

Understand now Sweetie, or do you have to get back on your knees.

JOEJ josephine, message from Thiel!!!

Quote from: Thiel on May 21, 2025, 08:55:25 PMAngeldrawers, Washington has kept quiet on the Alberta sovereignty question.

The question is why isn't the federal government of Canada acting like they want the prairie provinces to stay.

The wealth gap between Canada and the U.S. has only grown wider, according to figures published by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). Your biggest province has a GDP about the same as West Virginia.

Millions of people in Canada rely on food banks for their daily needs. The American economy grew twenty percent in the last decade while your country's economy grew 1.9 percent.

Paul Beaudry served as deputy governor of the Bank of Canada from 2019 and 2023 and is now a professor at the Vancouver School of Economics at UBC.

"Relative to other countries, we're getting collectively poorer," Beaudry told CBC News. "And it's not only relative to the U.S., it's relative to a lot of other countries. We're in the laggard group."

Canadian consumers are the most indebted in the G20. Nobody wants to invest in Canada.

Even the way Canada calculates net public debt is very misleading. Even worse, your country's gross debt is equal to 111 per cent of our GDP, which isn't good by anyone's standards.

Larry Schembri, a senior fellow at the Fraser Institute and a former deputy governor of the Bank of Canada expects emigration to America to accelerate even if Alberta stays. If it leaves, a broke dysfunctional Canada will beg the US to admit it.

This is why I emigrated from Canada. This is why so many professionals are doing the same.

It'sm shocking how fast Canada has gone down the tube. It's not the country we immigrated to in the 90's. I want my sons to have enjoy the opportunities I had, but that is just not possible in this new third worldish Canada.

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It is embarrassing to think people actually believed Trump's long time business partner, Mark Carney was going to put him in his place. :crazy: 

Quote from: Brent on May 22, 2025, 12:12:58 PMIt is embarrassing to think people actually believed Trump's long time business partner, Mark Carney was going to put him in his place. :crazy: 

What fools. :crampe:

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Progs will defend Carney the liar until his poll numbers drop like Trudeau's did. The the Liberal Party will appoint(not ewlect) a new saviour and he will win a fifth term.

Conman Carney's energy corridor will be all electricity shared between neighbouring provinces that we already do. Not a single piece of pipe will be put into the ground to transport crude to new markets.

Just like "elbows up," Carney's commitment to Canada's energy corridor looks like another campaign lie.
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Quote from: Brent on May 23, 2025, 01:23:03 PMProgs will defend Carney the liar until his poll numbers drop like Trudeau's did. The the Liberal Party will appoint(not ewlect) a new saviour and he will win a fifth term.

Rich progtards like him. That is who he serves.

Mark Carney's mandate letter to his cabinet is largely an attempt to address problems created, ignored or exacerbated by his predecessor, Justin Trudeau.

In that context, it's hard to see how effective Carney's cabinet will be in achieving his goals, given its large contingent of Trudeau-era ministers who, under Trudeau's leadership, screwed up many of the files Carney now says he wants to fix.

Quote from: Brent on May 25, 2025, 12:16:06 PMMark Carney's mandate letter to his cabinet is largely an attempt to address problems created, ignored or exacerbated by his predecessor, Justin Trudeau.

In that context, it's hard to see how effective Carney's cabinet will be in achieving his goals, given its large contingent of Trudeau-era ministers who, under Trudeau's leadership, screwed up many of the files Carney now says he wants to fix.

I told the suckers I was the change candidate and they bought it. :crampe:

Quote from: Mark Carney on May 25, 2025, 12:31:10 PMI told the suckers I was the change candidate and they bought it. :crampe:

Change Canada into some third world hole.

Quote from: Brent on May 26, 2025, 12:24:15 PMChange Canada into some third world hole.

But I will make money for Brookfield and myself.

Quote from: Mark Carney on May 26, 2025, 01:06:44 PMBut I will make money for Brookfield and myself.

You told the truth. That is a first for you.

Quote from: Mark Carney on May 26, 2025, 01:06:44 PMBut I will make money for Brookfield and myself.

I know you will scumbag.

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Carney is a snake and a pthological liar. We know that.

But, he does not seem smart either.

A Victory for Mark Carney apparently:

Quote from: JOE on May 29, 2025, 02:18:33 PMA Victory for Mark Carney apparently:

Angeldrawers, I started a thread on this topic.
https://thebluecashew.net/index.php/topic,20201.0.html

Perhaps the admins will be a dear and move your post to my thread where I know you meant to post it.

The only "radical transformation" Canadians want to see in our economy is one that makes life radically more affordable.

But that's not what Carney has in mind, is it.
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Conman Carney is always lying to the folks who were gullible enough to vote for him.
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The Liberals have ZERO PLANS to build up our energy infrastructure.
Just another thing Conman Carney lied about.
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He proposed half a TRILLION dollars in big government spending—with NO budget plan.

He wants to spend more of YOUR money but doesn't want to tell you how.

Mark Carney has now officially proven he will be MORE EXPENSIVE than Trudeau. This is bad news.

Mr Trump first announced tariffs against Canada on November 25. Monsieur Trudeau did not try to reach a deal to avert them.

Mr Carney has not made a serious effort like the Premier of Alberta did to stop the tariffs.

Mr Pollivere promised to sit through the entire summer to reach a deal to stop the tariffs. Mr Carney is going on vacation June 20 until the fall.

Elbows down Canadians.

Carney is going to entrench CBC funding instead of it being part of the budget. That means the Liberal Party's propaganda machine can never be defunded even if the Liberals lose an election.

Funding for the legacy media too could be part of his plan.

Buying the media with our money.

Just saying.
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Quote from: Brent on June 07, 2025, 11:30:26 AMCarney is going to entrench CBC funding instead of it being part of the budget. That means the Liberal Party's propaganda machine can never be defunded even if the Liberals lose an election.

Funding for the legacy media too could be part of his plan.

Buying the media with our money.

Buying something worthless as it turns out. You are aware of course that once upon a time these industries more or less paid for themselves. Lately they haven't been doing so great, younger generations don't really bother with newspapers, radio and television, that even places like YouTube are being forsaken as the sources for infortainment people of our generation fool ourselves into thinking are "authoritative sources", no?

I know the kneejerk reaction here is to say "well the kids are just misinformed" and "the kids should pay more attention". The truth is that they don't... and frankly I don't blame them. Those lumbering leviathans cost shitloads and exist only for a bunch of old fucks to tell us how to think. I know when I was younger, I would defer more to the messaging from my peer group than I would from some old cunt, it's the one constant that we all share.

So propping up the CBC (and other arms of dinosaur media) is dumb and wasteful, not simply on the libtards part but also on the more conservative side of the aisle. Like injecting funds into propping up the 78 rpm manufacturing industry, it is an exercise in diminishing returns. The old fuckers that buy into it are dying out, the new fuckers aren't gonna magically jump on the bandwagon out of a sense of nostalgia for a time that was dying or outright dead before they filled their first diaper with creamy nappy batter. Propaganda doesn't work if nobody bothers to watch it and a quick peek at the Nielsen ratings will tell you all you need to know about the cluelessness and desperation being enjoyed by the old farts as they scramble for that diminishing market.

While utterly failing to inculcate the kinds of values in the Gen Z'ers amd Gen Alphas who, like it or lump it, will be the ones changing our Depends when we get to be too old and grey to manage it for ourselves.

Quote from: Brent on June 07, 2025, 11:30:26 AMCarney is going to entrench CBC funding instead of it being part of the budget. That means the Liberal Party's propaganda machine can never be defunded even if the Liberals lose an election.

Funding for the legacy media too could be part of his plan.

Buying the media with our money.

He stated he wanted to increase funding for the CBC during the election. He evaded questions about funding the media which means that continues.

Nobody should be surprised by this. Nobody at all.

Quote from: DKG on June 08, 2025, 09:56:34 AMHe stated he wanted to increase funding for the CBC during the election. He evaded questions about funding the media which means that continues.

Nobody should be surprised by this. Nobody at all.

The Carney Broadcasting Corporation. He just installed himself as the real CEO.

Quote from: Brent on June 08, 2025, 11:16:45 AMThe Carney Broadcasting Corporation. He just installed himself as the real CEO.

Mr Harper didn't sell the CBC when he had a majority government.

This is the Carney way. Talk like PP, but keep the economy in shackles like his predecessor.

Mark Carney offers words – Pierre Poilievre's words – but we need action
The PM is leaving all of Justin Trudeau's policies in place while trying to sound like he'll build big projects of national interest

Listening to Prime Minister Mark Carney lay out his new plan to start building Canada on Friday, one thing became clear – Pierre Poilievre won the argument even if Carney won the election.

"Canada is a country that used to build big things, but in recent decades it's become too difficult to build in this country," Carney said.

Anyone who has listened to Poilievre over the last several years would instantly recognize many of the proposals that Carney has put forward.

These weren't just policy proposals that Poilievre had put forward during the election that Carney somehow magically stole in the campaign. These were ideas Poilievre had spoken about time and again as he crisscrossed the country, holding rallies and building up his army of supporters ahead of the election, while Justin Trudeau was still prime minister.

Ideas like allowing Canadians to work in whichever part of the country they wanted.

Poilievre advocated for that policy for tradespersons and professionals alike.

Getting rid of bureaucratic red tape that stopped goods and services moving between different parts of Canada – yet another policy Poilievre championed for years.

These weren't ideas the Conservative Leader dreamed up in response to the economic turmoil brought about by Donald Trump's tariff measures or his decision to revamp the American economy and the global trading order. These ideas were the bread and butter of Poilievre's plan to give Canadians more personal economic freedom and to boost the lacklustre Canadian economy.

It's likely cold comfort to the currently seatless Conservative Leader, that his ideas will now be implemented by the party that once scoffed at him when he raised these ideas in the House of Commons.

Regardless of which party and leader puts them forward, they are the kinds of ideas that we need now.

Canada's latest unemployment rate is the latest sign of an economy in decline. The national unemployment rate is 7% – in Ontario it's 7.9% and in Toronto it's 9.1%. In Alberta, the unemployment rate is above the national average at 7.4%, while both Edmonton (7.3%) and Calgary (7.8%) are also above the national average.

"We're in an economic crisis," Carney rightly said during his news conference on Parliament Hill.

But for a decade, the Trudeau Liberals were too busy trying to do what they could to shackle the economy. He passed the West Coast tanker ban, he put in place an emissions cap on the oil and gas industry, his industrial carbon tax is still hurting industry and he passed Bill C-69, which hurts all kinds of natural resources projects and industrial projects across the country.

Carney is leaving all of those policies in place while trying to sound like he will build big projects of national interest.

Straddling two sides of the same road is a dangerous ploy, but that is what he's doing. Keeping the old policies in place, assuring all the groups that don't want our economy to be unleashed that things will be fine, while also trying to sound like Poilievre.

Carney may have some of Poilievre's words but he doesn't have his belief that building these projects is the right thing to do. Let's hope his much-vaunted business acumen is enough to see some projects through to fruition.

For now though, all we have are words when what we really need is action.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-mark-carney-offers-words-pierre-poilievres-words-but-we-need-action

He is quoting Pierre Poilievre, preaching about building Canada but keeping Trudeau's policies in place. Conversion or con job?

I will believe it when I see it.

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Mark Carney says Ottawa won't overrule a province's opposition to pipeline construction, as he will seek consensus from all relevant stakeholders before the project gets the green light.

Asked by a reporter if he would impose a pipeline project that has been identified as being in the national interest but for which a province objects, Carney said, "No."

"Simply no. We must have a consensus of all the provinces and the indigenous people ... If a province doesn't want it, it's impossible. It's not the choice of the federal government," he said in French.

Jason Kenney, former premier of Alberta, said he was "astonished" that Carney "contradicted" the Constitution Act, by "handing provinces a veto over interprovincial pipelines (at least rhetorically.)"

In his June 6 social media post, Kenney argued that interprovincial pipelines fall under federal regulatory authority. He pointed to Section 92(10)(c), which grants the federal government jurisdiction over such works when declared to be "for the general Advantage of Canada or for the Advantage of Two or more of the Provinces."

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The final in the coffin for getting more of your country's biggest export to new markets.

Quote from: Shen Li on June 09, 2025, 11:25:14 PMThe final in the coffin for getting more of your country's biggest export to new markets.

Yep. That is why prairie folks are pulling the pin on Canada.

My consensus rule ensures that no new pipeline to tidewater ever gets built in Canada. And just for fun Steven Guilbeault who is in charge of national parks will create new parks in any direction from pipelines. You fools. :crampe:

NDP-Liberal coalition is alive and well.

Despite families paying $800 more on food this year because of costly inflationary policies over the last 10 years, the Liberals AND NDP joined forces to vote down our Conservative motion to reverse those inflationary policies and table a fiscally responsible spring budget.

While the Liberals and NDP continue to ignore Canadians' high cost of living, Conservatives are fighting for hardworking families to restore fiscal responsibility for our country.

Quote from: Herman on June 11, 2025, 03:22:21 PMNDP-Liberal coalition is alive and well.

Despite families paying $800 more on food this year because of costly inflationary policies over the last 10 years, the Liberals AND NDP joined forces to vote down our Conservative motion to reverse those inflationary policies and table a fiscally responsible spring budget.

While the Liberals and NDP continue to ignore Canadians' high cost of living, Conservatives are fighting for hardworking families to restore fiscal responsibility for our country.

The good life is over in Canada. Ten years and more of Liberal dictatorship and corruption have killed the Canadian dream.

Quote from: Shen Li on June 11, 2025, 08:31:32 PMThe good life is over in Canada. Ten years and more of Liberal dictatorship and corruption have killed the Canadian dream.

If I was to return to Canada now instead after my twenty six years
working abroad, I would think I landed in some South American shithole.
This aint the safe free and wealthy country I grew up in.

Did you know that giving the United States first dibs on all our resources is what "elbows up" meant?
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Quote from: Herman on June 12, 2025, 03:27:11 PMIf I was to return to Canada now instead after my twenty six years
working abroad, I would think I landed in some South American shithole.
This aint the safe free and wealthy country I grew up in.

Canada sure as fuck isn't the safe, free, pragmatic land of opportunity and liberty we immigrated to in the 90's.

Conman Carney wants to thank the Saudi Crown Prince for supplying oil to the world that he is blocking Canada from exporting.
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Quote from: Herman on June 13, 2025, 03:29:13 PMConman Carney wants to thank the Saudi Crown Prince for supplying oil to the world that he is blocking Canada from exporting.
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The House of Saud was on board with the elbows up scam. :s_laugh:

Conman Carney plans to FORCE Canadians to buy electric vehicles.
This will price hard-working Canadians out of owning ANY vehicle.
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It was elbows down again at the G7 summit. Carney looks like Trump's lap dog.

Why was he trying to hide this?
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Bills C-2 and C-5 will give Mr Carney dictatorial powers further eroding Canadian liberty and democracy.

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Right before becoming prime minister, Mr Carney was chair of Brookfield and he advocated for a ban on gas-powered cars. Brookfield is heavily invested in the EV supply chain. If this prime minister refuses to reveal his financial interests or self-admitted conflicts isn't it true that this isn't about the environment. This is about the bottom line for Brookfield.

If I were Cucknadian, I'd be arming myself with ACTUAL military weaponry!

The radical Liberals are planning to make your gas-powered vehicles illegal.

They will force you to buy an expensive electric vehicle.

This isn't some far right conspiracy theory, this is the real Liberal 10-year plan. By 2035, all new gas powered vehicle sales will be banned.

The Liberals are living in a fantasy land.

People need their vehicles for work. The Liberals are finding another way to punish Canadians for simply living their lives.

Let me be clear: This Liberal ban on gas powered cars will drive up the costs of vehicles by $20,000, hurt rural communities, and kill Canadian auto jobs. It's economic sabotage.

Liberals in Ottawa and in busy downtown cores think they know better than you. They don't understand that in many rural parts of Canada, there are no EV chargers for hundreds of kilometres, and on top of that, EVs can lose forty percent of their battery life in cold weather.

Mark Carney might not know this because he hasn't spent a lot of time in parts of this country, but Canada is cold!

This is not politics as usual. This is extreme ideology.

Quote from: DKG on June 19, 2025, 08:26:25 PMThe radical Liberals are planning to make your gas-powered vehicles illegal.

They will force you to buy an expensive electric vehicle.

This isn't some far right conspiracy theory, this is the real Liberal 10-year plan. By 2035, all new gas powered vehicle sales will be banned.

The Liberals are living in a fantasy land.

People need their vehicles for work. The Liberals are finding another way to punish Canadians for simply living their lives.

Let me be clear: This Liberal ban on gas powered cars will drive up the costs of vehicles by $20,000, hurt rural communities, and kill Canadian auto jobs. It's economic sabotage.

Liberals in Ottawa and in busy downtown cores think they know better than you. They don't understand that in many rural parts of Canada, there are no EV chargers for hundreds of kilometres, and on top of that, EVs can lose forty percent of their battery life in cold weather.

Mark Carney might not know this because he hasn't spent a lot of time in parts of this country, but Canada is cold!

This is not politics as usual. This is extreme ideology.

The Liberals will be forced into a compromise DKG

More likely a hybrid solution coming which will encourage more people to go electric but not completely.

But gas powered vehicles will still be around in 2035. But gas only vehicles will become rarer over time.

Quote from: Lokmar on June 19, 2025, 03:06:13 PMIf I were Cucknadian, I'd be arming myself with ACTUAL military weaponry!

The dictatorial Liberals put people in jail for months/years for peacefully protesting against their authoritarian rule. They seized bank accounts and tried to use tank on them. What do you think they would do if there were an armed civil war attempt. They would go Tianamen on everybody.

Mark Carney was an excellent choice for Prime Minister.

You all should be glad we got em.

I certainly am DKG DKG!

Quote from: DKG on June 19, 2025, 09:05:53 PMThe dictatorial Liberals put people in jail for months/years for peacefully protesting against their authoritarian rule. They seized bank accounts and tried to use tank on them. What do you think they would do if there were an armed civil war attempt. They would go Tianamen on everybody.

Canada has gone full fascist in the past decade and it's getting worse. I'm soooooooo fucking glad I got my sons out of that third world wannable dictatorial hellhole.

Quote from: DKG on June 19, 2025, 08:26:25 PMThe radical Liberals are planning to make your gas-powered vehicles illegal.

They will force you to buy an expensive electric vehicle.

This isn't some far right conspiracy theory, this is the real Liberal 10-year plan. By 2035, all new gas powered vehicle sales will be banned.

The Liberals are living in a fantasy land.

People need their vehicles for work. The Liberals are finding another way to punish Canadians for simply living their lives.

Let me be clear: This Liberal ban on gas powered cars will drive up the costs of vehicles by $20,000, hurt rural communities, and kill Canadian auto jobs. It's economic sabotage.

Liberals in Ottawa and in busy downtown cores think they know better than you. They don't understand that in many rural parts of Canada, there are no EV chargers for hundreds of kilometres, and on top of that, EVs can lose forty percent of their battery life in cold weather.

Mark Carney might not know this because he hasn't spent a lot of time in parts of this country, but Canada is cold!

This is not politics as usual. This is extreme ideology.

This is aspirational and that's it. It's not happening in Commifornia and it's not happening in Canada.

I'll be turning 51 in late 2035. If I come here for a holiday on my birthday in 2035 there will still be new ICE vehicles sold on car lots.

Quote from: DKG on June 19, 2025, 09:05:53 PMThe dictatorial Liberals put people in jail for months/years for peacefully protesting against their authoritarian rule. They seized bank accounts and tried to use tank on them. What do you think they would do if there were an armed civil war attempt. They would go Tianamen on everybody.

True.

Here's some perspective:
'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.'

Quote from: JOE on June 19, 2025, 09:35:14 PMMark Carney was an excellent choice for Prime Minister.

You all should be glad we got em.

I certainly am DKG DKG!

I thought you left?  :popcorn:

Quote from: Shen Li on June 19, 2025, 09:47:22 PMThis is aspirational and that's it. It's not happening in Commifornia and it's not happening in Canada.

I'll be turning 51 in late 2035. If I come here for a holiday on my birthday in 2035 there will still be new ICE vehicles sold on car lots.

I think ultimately, you're right. The biggest problem is average joe doesnt grasp the concept of what it takes to generate electrical power and how much electrical power it takes to fast charge an electric car which STILL takes 1/2 hour to go from 20% to 80%. The plug on an electric stove is 50a/240v or 12,000 watts. (12KW) A dual port 480v 3ph fast charger for electric cars is 62KW.
#1. A house only has 240 single phase, NOT 480 3 phase
#2. There's no fucking way ANY country is going to outfit all homes with 480 3 phase. You'd pretty much have to completely rebuild the electrical grid.


Almost forgot, the average home has a single phase 200a service which is ACTUALLY rated at 80% continuous which is 160 amps, NOT 200!. The most single phase power you can squeeze from a home is 38,000 watts or 38KW = 240v X 160amps. One fast charger takes nearly 100% of that power!!!! You could turn on every fucking electrical item you own and STILL likely not reach 38KW!!!!!

Quote from: Lokmar on June 19, 2025, 10:13:02 PMI think ultimately, you're right. The biggest problem is average joe doesnt grasp the concept of what it takes to generate electrical power and how much electrical power it takes to fast charge an electric car which STILL takes 1/2 hour to go from 20% to 80%. The plug on an electric stove is 50a/240v or 12,000 watts. (12KW) A dual port 480v 3ph fast charger for electric cars is 62KW.
#1. A house only has 240 single phase, NOT 480 3 phase
#2. There's no fucking way ANY country is going to outfit all homes with 480 3 phase. You'd pretty much have to completely rebuild the electrical grid.

I know it's a pipe dream. As much as the governments of Commiefornia and Canada have their heads up their asses, they know it too.

Quote from: Lokmar on June 19, 2025, 10:08:18 PMI thought you left?  :popcorn:

Oh. I said I was jes takin a break....Lokmar!

So now I'm back.

I might take off again.

Will letcha know, eh?

Quote from: JOE on June 19, 2025, 11:10:36 PMOh. I said I was jes takin a break....Lokmar!

So now I'm back.

I might take off again.

Will letcha know, eh?

There is still about ten days left in Pride month Sweetie.

Welcome your new dictator. His bills will make his word law without any debate or transparency. Dangerous as hell for you, good for Brookfield. Get why this WEF control freak wanted to be your pm.
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More elbows down and arses up for China and Brookfield.
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And if you really want to understand how deep this betrayal goes, just watch Question Period That's where Conservative MP Tamara Kronis torched the government's hypocrisy: "The Prime Minister says he wants to build, baby, build," she said, "but he can't even get the B.C. NDP to build Canadian ships for Canadian taxpayers in Canada." She's right. While the Liberals shout about investing in Canadian jobs, they're letting B.C. Ferries ship those jobs to Communist China.

Then came Dan Albas, cutting through the spin with one brutal question: "Will the minister grow a spine of Canadian-manufactured steel and make Canadian jobs a requirement for this funding?" That's the question every taxpayer should be asking. Why are we sending federal money to a foreign regime while Canadian shipbuilders stand idle?

First: The ferries connecting B.C. to Vancouver Island are not just some quirky local project. They are legally part of Canada's highway system. That's right. The ferry route is Highway 1. And Highway 1 is integrated into the National Highway System—which means it's a federal infrastructure corridor.

Second: When the federal government writes a check—$36 million in this case—to B.C. Ferries for operational support, it is no longer "provincial." That money comes with federal accountability. They could've demanded Canadian content. They could've said, "If you want federal money, you build with Canadian steel, in a Canadian yard, with Canadian workers." But they didn't.

Instead, they watched as the contract went straight to a Chinese state-owned shipyard—the same regime that slaps tariffs on Canadian pork and beef, spies on MPs.

In a short 4.5 years Canadian dealerships will have to have 60% of sales EV. If you want a vehicle on the 40% side due to demand estimates you will pay $20,000 more. Dealerships will use up their ICE quota.

Feel scammed yet?

Oh, and Carney is keeping Justine's tax on Netflix.
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More Conman Carney taxes
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I thought we were in a crisis? Is there no crisis anymore?
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