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I am applying to change my S Pass to permanent residency. After 2 years as a permanent resident I can apply for Singaprean citizenship and a passport.

I can hardly wait to rip apart my Canadian passport when I become a citizen of a wealthy transparent and safe first world nation. :yeahhh:  :drunk2:

Doesn't matter anymore what citizenships you take or give up.

They all deport back to your birth nation if they don't like what you say or do.

Quote from: Frood on July 09, 2025, 10:19:16 PMDoesn't matter anymore what citizenships you take or give up.

They all deport back to your birth nation if they don't like what you say or do.

Singapore unlike Canada is very transparent and few countries follow the rule of law like we do. Our government has everything online. If you can find that please post it.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 09, 2025, 10:14:11 PMI am applying to change my S Pass to permanent residency. After 2 years as a permanent resident I can apply for Singaprean citizenship and a passport.

I can hardly wait to rip apart my Canadian passport when I become a citizen of a wealthy transparent and safe first world nation. :yeahhh:  :drunk2:

You must really hate Canada.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 09, 2025, 10:14:11 PMI am applying to change my S Pass to permanent residency. After 2 years as a permanent resident I can apply for Singaprean citizenship and a passport.

I can hardly wait to rip apart my Canadian passport when I become a citizen of a wealthy transparent and safe first world nation. :yeahhh:  :drunk2:

Why not keep both? I would imagine an international city state like Singapore allows dual citizenship.

Nowhere is safe anymore....whether they have rules on books or not. It's become the dark ages of relocating.

Quote from: DKG on July 09, 2025, 11:04:34 PMWhy not keep both? I would imagine an international city state like Singapore allows dual citizenship.

Strangely enough SG doesn't permit dual or more citizenship. The Philippines is one of the only countries in East/SE Asia that does.

Quote from: Frood on July 09, 2025, 11:06:31 PMNowhere is safe anymore....whether they have rules on books or not. It's become the dark ages of relocating.

Yeah OK.

Quote from: caskur on July 09, 2025, 10:57:58 PMYou must really hate Canada.

I used to love it. But, the country we immigrated to in 90's no longer exists. This new Canada owned lock stock and barrel by globalist control freaks is unrecognizable to me and fuck yeah, I hate it.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 09, 2025, 10:14:11 PMI am applying to change my S Pass to permanent residency. After 2 years as a permanent resident I can apply for Singaprean citizenship and a passport.

I can hardly wait to rip apart my Canadian passport when I become a citizen of a wealthy transparent and safe first world nation. :yeahhh:  :drunk2:

You'd give up a passport from a stable nation like Canada? And what makes you think the World will be the same in 20 years?

It could become even more unstable dangerous & uninhabitable place by then Shen Li Shen. And no matter how efficient & well run Singapore is, it is quite vulnerable to outside influences around the world & what is happening in its region.

City states by their very nature have always been vulnerable. Yesterday's behemoth was Imperial Japan. Today it's China. You have a  short memory because you didn't live back then. But I actually met somebody from Singapore who lost his family when Japan invaded the place during Royld War II


Now, I'm not suggesting China will do the same. However as its influence grows they will exert more pressure on places like Singapore. And it could become more like Hong Kong.

It's your life I suppose, but at least allow your children to have the choice whether they want to renounce or not. I know Chinese citizens who've immigrated to Canada & they all told me the reason they & others left Asia was because of China.


I think there was recently a story about an extremely wealthy Chinese family with strong ties to the CCP who fled to Canada. They were able to do so because they had that 3nd Canadian passport.

The other thing is Singapore is quite vulnerable to rising sea levels:

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Quote from: caskur on July 09, 2025, 10:57:58 PMYou must really hate Canada.

There are times I do as well caskur caskur.

But I look around at what's happening in the world and by comparison it's not THAT Bad.

Even if I chose to leave I wouldn't give up my citizenship nor leave permanently. More like live a couple months of the year somewhere else and the other half or more in Canada.

A 2nd passport has its perks but the wiser choice would be keeping it as an option not as the only choice.

You know what they say about having a Plan B in life.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 09, 2025, 11:51:05 PMI used to love it. But, the country we immigrated to in 90's no longer exists. This new Canada owned lock stock and barrel by globalist control freaks is unrecognizable to me and fuck yeah, I hate it.

It's not too late to right the ship. But, we cannot afford a decade like we just had. And unfortunately Carney has said he has no intention of reversing the failed policies that he advised to Trudeau.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 09, 2025, 11:48:31 PMStrangely enough SG doesn't permit dual or more citizenship. The Philippines is one of the only countries in East/SE Asia that does.

I assumed an international hub like Singapore permitted dual citizenship.

Cucknadia is a liberal hell hole and its hell bent on financially raping its people. If I were a Cuck citizen, I'd want to leave it too!

Quote from: Lokmar on July 10, 2025, 10:02:10 AMCucknadia is a liberal hell hole and its hell bent on financially raping its people. If I were a Cuck citizen, I'd want to leave it too!

It is true, that governments at all levels in Canada are reversing what has made the Great White North strong and free. But, it is still not too late to return to the pragmatism that gave us our prosperity and liberty.

Looking out 20 years and comparing the current policies of the two countries it's pretty easy to see that Canada will end up a hell of a lot worse than Singapore will. Canada is actively working towards self-destruction while Singapore is not. Unless Trump moves north of the border and gets elected prime minister I don't see much hope for the place.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on July 10, 2025, 10:14:33 AMLooking out 20 years and comparing the current policies of the two countries it's pretty easy to see that Canada will end up a hell of a lot worse than Singapore will. Canada is actively working towards self-destruction while Singapore is not. Unless Trump moves north of the border and gets elected prime minister I don't see much hope for the place.

I am not arguing that we are in a very bad place right now. All the metrics used to measure the social and economic health of a nation have moved considerably in the wrong direction.

But, I have seen this country pull together in the early nineties when we faced a debt tsunami. The problems today are far worse. If we can reach a national consensus that our prosperity and liberty are worth saving we can can restore the Canadian dream.

We cannot wait another ten years though. And it will not happen with Mark Carney as prime minister.

Quote from: JOE on July 10, 2025, 07:12:32 AMYou know what they say about having a Plan B in life.

if only your mom would have had that option the morning after huh?

Quote from: Lokmar on July 10, 2025, 10:02:10 AMCucknadia is a liberal hell hole and its hell bent on financially raping its people. If I were a Cuck citizen, I'd want to leave it too!

I am going to make Canada so unbearable for it's best educated citizens with the most sought after skills that they will all leave. I will replace them with illiterate third world refugees.

Quote from: Mark Carney on July 10, 2025, 12:03:00 PMI am going to make Canada so unbearable for it's best educated citizens with the most sought after skills that they will all leave. I will replace them with illiterate third world refugees.

that's a great plan

and give away free stuff to the lowest common denominators of society too.

Quote from: Mark Carney on July 10, 2025, 12:03:00 PMI am going to make Canada so unbearable for it's best educated citizens with the most sought after skills that they will all leave. I will replace them with illiterate third world refugees.

We know.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on July 10, 2025, 10:14:33 AMLooking out 20 years and comparing the current policies of the two countries it's pretty easy to see that Canada will end up a hell of a lot worse than Singapore will. Canada is actively working towards self-destruction while Singapore is not. Unless Trump moves north of the border and gets elected prime minister I don't see much hope for the place.

Canada is in big trouble. We are being told this by internal and external organizations.

The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development has predicted Canada will have the worst record of economic growth among developed nations from 2020 to 2060.

Quote from: JOE on July 10, 2025, 06:57:19 AMThe other thing is Singapore is quite vulnerable to rising sea levels:

(https://www.climateimpactstracker.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Singapore-Sea-Level-Rise-5-m.png.webp)

Jo Jo you adorable silly goose, Vancouver is expected to break off from North America. Singapore can reclaim land like Holland has.

I think I can confidently predict a nation as rich and smart as Singapore is, is prepared for that remote possibility.

Quote from: JOE on July 10, 2025, 06:52:44 AMYou'd give up a passport from a stable nation like Canada? And what makes you think the World will be the same in 20 years?

It could become even more unstable dangerous & uninhabitable place by then Shen Li Shen. And no matter how efficient & well run Singapore is, it is quite vulnerable to outside influences around the world & what is happening in its region.

City states by their very nature have always been vulnerable. Yesterday's behemoth was Imperial Japan. Today it's China. You have a  short memory because you didn't live back then. But I actually met somebody from Singapore who lost his family when Japan invaded the place during Royld War II

Now, I'm not suggesting China will do the same. However as its influence grows they will exert more pressure on places like Singapore. And it could become more like Hong Kong.

It's your life I suppose, but at least allow your children to have the choice whether they want to renounce or not. I know Chinese citizens who've immigrated to Canada & they all told me the reason they & others left Asia was because of China.


I think there was recently a story about an extremely wealthy Chinese family with strong ties to the CCP who fled to Canada. They were able to do so because they had that 3nd Canadian passport.

Invasion Honeybunch?

You seem jealous that someone on this forum has the guts to leave a nation like Canada which is on a steady downward trajectory for a wealthier and more stable country.

Quote from: Thiel on July 10, 2025, 02:16:38 PMInvasion Honeybunch?

You seem jealous that someone on this forum has the guts to leave a nation like Canada which is on a steady downward trajectory for a wealthier and more stable country.

Joe and I do not have lives. These forums are all we have. Of course we become jealous when people do things offline that we never will.

Quote from: Lokmar on July 10, 2025, 10:02:10 AMCucknadia is a liberal hell hole and its hell bent on financially raping its people. If I were a Cuck citizen, I'd want to leave it too!

Canada is the best country in the Whole World ....Lokmar!

Don't we know it!

Getting back onto topic...wouldn't it be better for Shen Li Shen to hang onto Canadian citizenship if just for tax breaks?

Eg , once a person renounces, things like tfsa and rrsp's are no longer tax deductible. Is this correct?

So if a person grew a tfsa to $1 million & then it became taxable, that'd be q lotvofctax to pay.

Seems that it'd be advantageous to have citizenship for that purpose alone. And if Shen has any real estate holdings there d be a foreign property tax as well.

Seems that dual citizenship is the best option

Just my take. Feel free to offer your own opinion

Quote from: Eddie the chug on July 10, 2025, 03:14:55 PMJoe and I do not have lives. These forums are all we have. Of course we become jealous when people do things offline that we never will.

If you would see a dermatologist about your acne problem, maybe you could get yourself a fruit sugar daddy like old Joe did.

Singapore's government aint engineering a mass homeless crisis like our federal government is.
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Quote from: Herman on July 10, 2025, 04:51:44 PMSingapore's government aint engineering a mass homeless crisis like our federal government is.
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Same time Singapore is a fraction of the size and its neighbor doesn't demand they pay 5% of their GDP to defense hey Herman Herm

It's a bit easier to manage and run a country the size of Toronto than the 2nd largest land mass in the world.

Quote from: JOE on July 10, 2025, 04:19:03 PMCanada is the best country in the Whole World ....Lokmar!

Don't we know it!

Your currency in in the toilet. Your government locks peoples money up like china does. PWN3D!

Quote from: JOE on July 10, 2025, 05:48:40 PMSame time Singapore is a fraction of the size and its neighbor doesn't demand they pay 5% of their GDP to defense hey Herman Herm

It's a bit easier to manage and run a country the size of Toronto than the 2nd largest land mass in the world.

Pay up faggit! America is fukin tired of your deadbeat asses!

Quote from: Lokmar on July 10, 2025, 06:37:58 PMPay up faggit! America is fukin tired of your deadbeat asses!

I only see his lame trolling when you or his boyfriend Thiel quote him.

The US demands all NATO members pay two percent of their GDP. For some reason only Conman Carney knows our incompetent asshole pm wants us to pay five percent of our GDP to NATO.

Quote from: Herman on July 10, 2025, 07:11:46 PMI only see his lame trolling when you or his boyfriend Thiel quote him.

The US demands all NATO members pay two percent of their GDP. For some reason only Conman Carney knows our incompetent asshole pm wants us to pay five percent of our GDP to NATO.

All I know is Cucknadia wont have paid enough until the U.S. Treasury receives all of josephines gold and silver coins!

Quote from: Herman on July 10, 2025, 07:11:46 PMI only see his lame trolling when you or his boyfriend Thiel quote him.

The US demands all NATO members pay two percent of their GDP. For some reason only Conman Carney knows our incompetent asshole pm wants us to pay five percent of our GDP to NATO.

Not according to Marco Rubio hey Herman Herm.

He wants 5%.

Quote from: Lokmar on July 10, 2025, 08:00:50 PMAll I know is Cucknadia wont have paid enough until the U.S. Treasury receives all of josephines gold and silver coins!

The chocolate inside them will melt in the summer heat.

Canada vs Singapore

Health
Canadians live 2.5 years less.

In Singapore, the average life expectancy is 86 years (84 years for men, 89 years for women) as of 2022. In Canada, that number is 84 years (82 years for men, 86 years for women) as of 2022.

be 4.8 times more likely to be obese

In Singapore, 6.1% of adults are obese as of 2016. In Canada, that number is 29.4% of people as of 2016.

Economy
Canadians make 56.2% less money

Singapore has a GDP per capita of $127,500 as of 2023, while in Canada, the GDP per capita is $55,800 as of 2023.

Canadians are 100.0% more likely to be unemployed

In Singapore, 3.5% of adults are unemployed as of 2023. In Canada, that number is 7% as of June 2025.

Canadians pay a 65.0% higher top tax rate

Singapore has a top tax rate of 20.0% as of 2016. In Canada, the top tax rate is 33.0% as of 2016.


Life
Canadians have 15.6% more children

In Singapore, there are approximately 8.8 babies per 1,000 people as of 2024. In Canada, there are 10.2 babies per 1,000 people as of 2022.

Canadian women are 57.1% more likely to die during childbirth

In Singapore, approximately 7.0 women per 100,000 births die during labor as of 2020. In Canada, 11.0 women do as of 2020.

In Canada newborns are 2.8 times more likely to die during infancy

In Singapore, approximately 1.6 children (per 1,000 live births) die before they reach the age of one as of 2022. In Canada, on the other hand, 4.4 children do as of 2022.

Expenditures
Canadians spend 85.7% more on education

Singapore spends 2.8% of its total GDP on education as of 2021. Canada spends 5.2% of total GDP on education as of 2020. And Singapore gets better results.

Canadians spend 2.1 times more on healthcare and get worse outcomes.

Singapore spends 6.1% of its total GDP on healthcare as of 2020. In Canada, that number is 12.9% of GDP as of 2020.

Quote from: Herman on July 10, 2025, 07:11:46 PMI only see his lame trolling when you or his boyfriend Thiel quote him.

The US demands all NATO members pay two percent of their GDP. For some reason only Conman Carney knows our incompetent asshole pm wants us to pay five percent of our GDP to NATO.

What the fuck is that nincompoop pm doing spending 5% of GDP on defense when NATO only calls for 2%. If Canada is smart(it isn't) it would withdraw from NATO and use that money to eliminate the deficit and lower taxes.

Singapore spends a lot on defense. We will spend 3.5% of our GDP on defense this year.

To pay for Mark Carnage's foolish commitment to NATO will require one of three hard choices: larger deficits, higher taxes, or significant spending cuts. It will prolly involve all three.

Life was already hard enough in that frozen wasteland. I'm sooooooo fucking glad I got off that ship before it sank.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 10, 2025, 11:33:10 PMLife was already hard enough in that frozen wasteland. I'm sooooooo fucking glad I got off that ship before it sank.

Seems like you really hated living in Canada Shen Li Shen

It's your life, but I would still be inclined to hang on to the Canadian citizenship & pick up Singaporean as well. Canada is one of the few nations that allows dual or multiple citizenship. That'd seem like a gift actually.

Once you renounce the Canadian it's like throwing something away.

I've heard that certain passports don't carry as much weight or are not as highly regarded when entering others.

I heard the US government especially under Trump wants to eliminate dual citizenship. But Canada is unlikely to do that ever.

I advised some young guy once not to renounce his Irish passport. He was going to but i said to him "why would you? You get access to the EU."

And today Ireland is one of the most coveted passports in the world.

It might also happen with Canada too Shen Li Shen.

Canadians might acquire similar access to the EU even if they don't fully join it. So besides yourself if you have children having a Canadian passport might be a bonus for them one day.

Quote from: JOE on July 10, 2025, 08:01:00 PMNot according to Marco Rubio hey Herman Herm.

He wants 5%.

Sugarplum, Mr Rubio said that NATO members voluntarily agreed to hike spending to five percent of GDP. You said Canada's neighbor demanded that Canada increase defense spending to five percent and as your own video proved, you lied.

Honey buns do you remember what I told you after we had sex last night about telling lies. You can say goodbye to your allowance for two weeks.

Quote from: JOE on July 11, 2025, 12:13:50 AMSeems like you really hated living in Canada Shen Li Shen

It's your life, but I would still be inclined to hang on to the Canadian citizenship & pick up Singaporean as well. Canada is one of the few nations that allows dual or multiple citizenship. That'd seem like a gift actually.

Once you renounce the Canadian it's like throwing something away.

I've heard that certain passports don't carry as much weight or are not as highly regarded when entering others.

I heard the US government especially under Trump wants to eliminate dual citizenship. But Canada is unlikely to do that ever.

Sweetie, Ms Li has said that she left Canada for her sons future. I never heard her say she hated living in Canada. That is the second fib you told in one thread. Do you want to lose your allowance for another two weeks.

Pussycat, remember what I told you this morning after you performed oral sex on me about falling for falling for fake viral claims.

Trump is not revoking dual citizenship — viral claim debunked
https://asianjournal.com/usa/trump-is-not-revoking-dual-citizenship-viral-claim-debunked/

Quote from: JOE on July 11, 2025, 12:18:19 AMI advised some young guy once not to renounce his Irish passport. He was going to but i said to him "why would you? You get access to the EU."

And today Ireland is one of the most coveted passports in the world.

It might also happen with Canada too Shen Li Shen.

Canadians might acquire similar access to the EU even if they don't fully join it. So besides yourself if you have children having a Canadian passport might be a bonus for them one day.

Sweetie, remember what I told you two days ago after we had sex about reading posts and responding to what they actually wrote.

Ms Li has said that Singapore does not permit dual citizenship. And she wants Singaporean citizenship more than Canadian citizenship.

Quote from: Thiel on July 11, 2025, 12:29:48 AMSugarplum, Mr Rubio said that NATO members voluntarily agreed to hike spending to five percent of GDP. You said Canada's neighbor demanded that Canada increase defense spending to five percent and as your own video proved, you lied.

Honey buns do you remember what I told you after we had sex last night about telling lies. You can say goodbye to your allowance for two weeks.

JOEJ josephine, message from Thiel!

Quote from: Thiel on July 11, 2025, 12:29:48 AMSugarplum, Mr Rubio said that NATO members voluntarily agreed to hike spending to five percent of GDP. You said Canada's neighbor demanded that Canada increase defense spending to five percent and as your own video proved, you lied.

Honey buns do you remember what I told you after we had sex last night about telling lies. You can say goodbye to your allowance for two weeks.

Our economy is essentially in recession, spending is out of control, and Carney announces spending commitments that we cannot afford.

If he was a real leader he would end his three month vacation and get back to the negotiating table with Trump to reach a deal before tariffs are implemented. And as part of the negotiations, he would rescind his foolhardy five percent of GDP military pledge.

But, that is what a leader who cares about his nation would do and of course Carney was not appointed PM to help Canadians.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 10, 2025, 11:33:10 PMTo pay for Mark Carnage's foolish commitment to NATO will require one of three hard choices: larger deficits, higher taxes, or significant spending cuts. It will prolly involve all three.

Life was already hard enough in that frozen wasteland. I'm sooooooo fucking glad I got off that ship before it sank.

Frankly, I am not surprised that city state is beating Canada in all quality of life metrics. Singapore is a wealthier, better governed, and more innovative society than Canada.

Quote from: DKG on July 11, 2025, 10:41:57 AMFrankly, I am not surprised that city state is beating Canada in all quality of life metrics. Singapore is a wealthier, better governed, and more innovative society than Canada.

Canada used to strive to improve living standards. Now we intentionally lower them.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 10, 2025, 11:20:24 PMWhat the fuck is that nincompoop pm doing spending 5% of GDP on defense when NATO only calls for 2%. If Canada is smart(it isn't) it would withdraw from NATO and use that money to eliminate the deficit and lower taxes.

Singapore spends a lot on defense. We will spend 3.5% of our GDP on defense this year.

Who the hell knows what Conman Carney is doing. Whatever it is it will not help Canadians.

Quote from: DKG on July 11, 2025, 10:41:57 AMFrankly, I am not surprised that city state is beating Canada in all quality of life metrics. Singapore is a wealthier, better governed, and more innovative society than Canada.

Old Herman has been to Singapore I don't even remember how many times. The city is a transit hub for the region. It's also a regional logistical centre for the offshore oil and gas industry.

It has been ahead of Canada in infrastructure for a long time. But back in the day, working folks had better lives in Canada if you were willing to work hard.

That sure as hell aint the case anymore. Old Shen Li is right, Canada is a third world shithole now compared to Singapore.

Canadians under forty five know their country aint got their backs anymore. And they aint got Canada's back either.
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Quote from: JOE on July 10, 2025, 06:57:19 AMThe other thing is Singapore is quite vulnerable to rising sea levels:

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What rising sea levels? They said NYC would be flooded by rising sea levels by 2015 at one point.

Man-made global Warming is a myth. Besides, Warming and elevated CO2 are good for the planet and us. It's global cooling that is headed our way at some point and that's something to worry about.

Quote from: Renegade Quark on July 12, 2025, 01:14:12 AMWhat rising sea levels? They said NYC would be flooded by rising sea levels by 2015 at one point.

Man-made global Warming is a myth. Besides, Warming and elevated CO2 are good for the planet and us. It's global cooling that is headed our way at some point and that's something to worry about.

If the alarmists are right, we'll just burn use more coal, oil and natural gas to get the temps back down from sub zero freezing.

Quote from: DKG on July 11, 2025, 10:41:57 AMFrankly, I am not surprised that city state is beating Canada in all quality of life metrics. Singapore is a wealthier, better governed, and more innovative society than Canada.

The main ones why we emigrated are these:
Canadians make 56.2% less money

Singapore has a GDP per capita of $127,500 as of 2023, while in Canada, the GDP per capita is $55,800 as of 2023.

Canadians are 100.0% more likely to be unemployed

In Singapore, 3.5% of adults are unemployed as of 2023. In Canada, that number is 7% as of June 2025.

Canadians pay a 65.0% higher top tax rate

The gap between Singapore and Canada will only get wider. We are making  real efforts to make Singaporeans even richer. Canada's government is doing the exact opposite to their own citizens.

Also, health care is 100 times better than in Canada. We deliver better results cheaper too. And the civil service is waaaaaay more efficient here.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 12, 2025, 02:01:52 AMThe main ones why we emigrated are these:
Canadians make 56.2% less money

Singapore has a GDP per capita of $127,500 as of 2023, while in Canada, the GDP per capita is $55,800 as of 2023.

Canadians are 100.0% more likely to be unemployed

In Singapore, 3.5% of adults are unemployed as of 2023. In Canada, that number is 7% as of June 2025.

Canadians pay a 65.0% higher top tax rate

The gap between Singapore and Canada will only get wider. We are making  real efforts to make Singaporeans even richer. Canada's government is doing the exact opposite to their own citizens.

Also, health care is 100 times better than in Canada. We deliver better results cheaper too. And the civil service is waaaaaay more efficient here.

The gaps might not be a problem if this country was striving to do better. But, as you said we are deliberately making life worse for Canadians.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 12, 2025, 02:01:52 AMThe main ones why we emigrated are these:

This is a somewhat interesting thread Shen Li Shen.

I looked into some things an ex-pat to Singapore might research before moving there.

Citizenship - I asked google about dual citizenship:

"Can singapore have dual citizenship?"

And the answer is....

QuoteNo, Singapore generally does not recognize or permit dual citizenship. While individuals born with dual citizenship (e.g., a child born to Singaporean parents in another country) can hold both citizenships until the age of 21, they are required to choose one by that age. If they choose to retain their Singaporean citizenship, they must renounce any other citizenship they hold.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

    Dual citizenship at birth:
    Singapore allows for a grace period until the age of 21 for individuals who acquire dual citizenship at birth (e.g., through jus sanguinis in another country and jus soli in Singapore).

Renunciation requirement:
At age 21, these individuals must choose between their Singaporean and foreign citizenship(s).
Consequences of non-compliance:
Failure to renounce the foreign citizenship by the deadline can result in the loss of Singaporean citizenship.

Exceptions:
There are limited exceptions, such as for individuals who acquire citizenship by descent in a foreign country and also obtain Singapore citizenship by registration.

In essence, Singaporean nationality law is designed to prevent its citizens from holding multiple citizenships after the age of 21, except under specific and limited circumstances.

And I asked about Canada:

"Can canada have dual citizenship?"

QuoteYes, Canada allows dual citizenship. This means that individuals can be both Canadian citizens and citizens of another country. Canada recognizes multiple citizenships, and becoming a Canadian citizen does not require renouncing one's original citizenship.
Here's a more detailed explanation:

    Canada's Policy:
    Canada's Citizenship Act allows for dual or multiple citizenships.

No Requirement to Renounce:
Individuals are not required to give up their existing citizenship when becoming Canadian citizens.
Other Countries' Policies Vary:
While Canada allows dual citizenship, whether a person can hold dual citizenship also depends on the laws of their other country of citizenship. Some countries do not allow their citizens to hold dual citizenship, and may require renunciation of their citizenship upon acquiring another.
Examples:

    A person born in Canada to foreign parents may be a citizen of both Canada and their parents' country of origin.

A Canadian citizen who naturalizes in another country may also become a citizen of that country.

Traveling with Dual Citizenship:
Dual citizens are required to travel to and from Canada using a valid Canadian passport

Canada is desperate for suckers and Singapore is not

Another question I asked Google:

renounce canadian citizenship cpp oas

Renouncing Canadian citizenship results in losing eligibility for Canadian Pension Plan (CPP) and Old Age Security (OAS) benefits. To renounce, you must be a Canadian citizen, prove you are or will become a citizen of another country, not live in Canada, and be at least 18 years old. The process involves applying, proving eligibility, and paying a fee, which is non-refundable according to Canada.ca.
Renouncing Canadian Citizenship:

    Eligibility:
    To renounce, you must be a Canadian citizen, prove you are or will become a citizen of another country, not live in Canada, be at least 18 years old, and not be a threat to Canada's security according to Canada.ca.

Loss of Benefits:
Renouncing Canadian citizenship means losing all rights and privileges of citizenship, including access to CPP and OAS benefits.
Application Process:
You need to complete the application form, provide necessary documents, pay the fee, and submit the application according to Canada.ca.
Post-Renunciation:
If you wish to return to Canada after renouncing, you will need to apply for a permanent or temporary resident visa, depending on the purpose and duration of your stay.

CPP and OAS Implications:

    CPP:
    The Canada Pension Plan is a contributory pension plan, meaning benefits are based on your contributions during your working years according to filingtaxes.ca. If you renounce your citizenship, you lose the right to receive CPP benefits, even if you previously contributed.

OAS:
The Old Age Security pension is a non-contributory benefit based on residency in Canada. If you renounce your citizenship, you also lose eligibility for OAS benefits.
Non-Residents:
Even as a non-resident, you may be eligible for CPP and OAS payments if you have met the eligibility criteria before renouncing your citizenship, but this is not guaranteed according to UBC Faculty Pension Plan

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 12, 2025, 08:06:04 PMCanada is desperate for suckers and Singapore is not

Well Biggie Smiles Bigly, I'd be more inclined to move to Singapore, keep the Canadian Citizenship but get permanent resident status over there. That way the person gets to keep the Canadian pension, passport but still get benefits from Singapore.

If I was a US citizen moving to Singapore, I'd do the same since an American could get Social Security AND generous Singapore benefits.

But if they give up Canadian or especially American - it's Nada.

That's a lotta money/benefits to throw away, especially in the case of the US, they paid into Social Security.

Isn't chewing gum banned in Singapore?

Quote from: Renegade Quark on July 13, 2025, 12:16:50 AMIsn't chewing gum banned in Singapore?

I've never seen such interest in my retirement income from people that know me let alone strangers on an obscure forum.

Since it is on the table and some of you are nosy as fuck, I will tell you what you want to know. Singapore's self-directed benefits are superior to Canada's. They are better for citizens than they are for permanent SG residents. I would lose some benefits, most importantly from my employer if I do not become a Singapore citizen.

I will get a private pension from Canada when I turn 55. That cannot be touched until then.

I only paid into CPP from the age of 23-39. I looked at the online calculator of what I would be eligible for at age 60 which is the earliest you can collect it, and it was low-like $370/month. And despite the post above, unlike OAS and GIS, citizenship status does not affect CPP. It's our money and it cannot be revoked. It can be paid out no matter where you live in the world regardless of your status in Canada. Not that I give a fuck, it's not going to support me when I'm old.

OAS you have to have lived in Canada for 20 years from the age of 18 to collect it if you live abroad. I never looked into how renouncing my Canadian citizenship affects because I don't care. It's only about $700/month. I will get more from my Singapore Provident Fund, my RRSP's which I can cash out tax free when I renounce my CDN citizenship and my private pension from Canada.

GIS you have to live in Canada and have a low income to collect it. It doesn't pay very much either but helps poor Canadians living in that third world dumpster buy an extra box or 2 of Kraft Dinner each week.

Enjoy your impoverished frozen hellhole.

Quote from: Renegade Quark on July 13, 2025, 12:16:50 AMIsn't chewing gum banned in Singapore?

myth

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 12, 2025, 08:06:04 PMCanada is desperate for suckers and Singapore is not

Are they ever. The federal government can't get them in and on welfare fast enough. It forces more Canadians to sleep in cardboard boxes outside in the cold, but Ottawa doesn't care.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 13, 2025, 01:11:19 AMI've never seen such interest in my retirement income from people that know me let alone strangers on an obscure forum.

Since it is on the table and some of you are nosy as fuck, I will tell you what you want to know. Singapore's self-directed benefits are superior to Canada's. They are better for citizens than they are for permanent SG residents. I would lose some benefits, most importantly from my employer if I do not become a Singapore citizen.

I will get a private pension from Canada when I turn 55. That cannot be touched until then.

I only paid into CPP from the age of 23-39. I looked at the online calculator of what I would be eligible for at age 60 which is the earliest you can collect it, and it was low-like $370/month. And despite the post above, unlike OAS and GIS, citizenship status does not affect CPP. It's our money and it cannot be revoked. It can be paid out no matter where you live in the world regardless of your status in Canada. Not that I give a fuck, it's not going to support me when I'm old.

OAS you have to have lived in Canada for 20 years from the age of 18 to collect it if you live abroad. I never looked into how renouncing my Canadian citizenship affects because I don't care. It's only about $700/month. I will get more from my Singapore Provident Fund, my RRSP's which I can cash out tax free when I renounce my CDN citizenship and my private pension from Canada.

GIS you have to live in Canada and have a low income to collect it. It doesn't pay very much either but helps poor Canadians living in that third world dumpster buy an extra box or 2 of Kraft Dinner each week.

Enjoy your impoverished frozen hellhole.

Yes, I think I can guess who the nosy person is.

I have only known anybody who renounced Canadian citizenship. But, I have clients who live abroad. While OAS has rules regarding residency and GIS is only for people in Canada, CPP belongs to the people who pay into it. It cannot be taken away and their are no restrictions on residency.

But, like you said it is a terrible return considering what we are are forced to pay into it. I plan to retire and live in Florida in about five years. If I collect CPP at age sixty five my projected earnings are less than $900 a month. What a joke.

Only old broke Joe will trade a dysfunctional nation for a measly $1000 per month in retirement benefits. How pathetic is that.

Quote from: Brent on July 13, 2025, 11:47:50 AMOnly old broke Joe will trade a dysfunctional nation for a measly $1000 per month in retirement benefits. How pathetic is that.

MY honeybunch Jo Jo doesn't need to worry whether he gets a pittance from the Canadian government. I am the bread winner and I will make sure he gets an  allowance to buy enough gold chocolate coins to trade with his friends at the senior's day center.

Quote from: DKG on July 13, 2025, 10:05:07 AMYes, I think I can guess who the nosy person is.

I have only known anybody who renounced Canadian citizenship. But, I have clients who live abroad. While OAS has rules regarding residency and GIS is only for people in Canada, CPP belongs to the people who pay into it. It cannot be taken away and their are no restrictions on residency.

But, like you said it is a terrible return considering what we are are forced to pay into it. I plan to retire and live in Florida in about five years. If I collect CPP at age sixty five my projected earnings are less than $900 a month. What a joke.

South Korea has the highest Senior Poverty rate in the OECD DKG DKG


Be grateful to your aging parents that they left SK so you could have a  better life in Canada DKG.

You owe so much to this country.

Quote from: Thiel on July 13, 2025, 01:19:13 PMMY honeybunch Jo Jo doesn't need to worry whether he gets a pittance from the Canadian government. I am the bread winner and I will make sure he gets an  allowance to buy enough gold chocolate coins to trade with his friends at the senior's day center.

It must be nice being kept like that. Unfortunately I have to work and save/invest. it just will not be in Canada ever again. Good riddance to failing state.

QuoteWhile OAS has rules regarding residency and GIS is only for people in Canada, CPP belongs to the people who pay into it. It cannot be taken away and their are no restrictions on residency.

That's what my accountant in Canada told us before we left. She said it's our money and it can't be taken away. It's not affected by Canadian status.

So many working age Canadians can see the writing on the wall and they are leaving Canada before the bottom falls out under their feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2WwoRA31Y

Quote from: Shen Li on July 14, 2025, 01:00:00 AMIt must be nice being kept like that. Unfortunately I have to work and save/invest. it just will not be in Canada ever again. Good riddance to failing state.

Shen Li Shen, I could see the advantage of having Permanent Residency in Singapore.

But I don't hate Canada enough like you do to renounce my citizenship.

If I left Canada for Singapore, I'd just get PR status since it doesn't allow dual citizenship.

In that regard, a 2nd Passport in Europe would be the best option in imho.

A Singapore passport certainly has its merits, but at the same time it seems limited.

Just from my own pov, I don't think a Singapore passport QUITE has enough benefits to renounce citizenship from a tier 1 nation like Canada.

Heck even the United States allows dual citizenship. So if a person could swing it to have a passport from either country & have another passport of equal value that'd be ideal.

If it was offered to me, Singapore citizenship might interest me were in not for having to renounce another one. If Singapore offered dual, then that would seal the deal.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 14, 2025, 01:33:54 AMSo many working age Canadians can see the writing on the wall and they are leaving Canada before the bottom falls out under their feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2WwoRA31Y

The tragedy is that the people that are leaving are highly productive people like yourself. We are falling so far behind the US. Our future is going to be very bleak unless the Liberal Party returns to what it was in the 1990's.

Quote from: DKG on July 14, 2025, 09:59:08 AMThe tragedy is that the people that are leaving are highly productive people like yourself. We are falling so far behind the US. Our future is going to be very bleak unless the Liberal Party returns to what it was in the 1990's.

My children are young adults starting out in life....I want them to do better and my future grandchildren to do better than them......I am having serious doubts this will be possible in the Canada of the future.

Quote from: JOE on July 13, 2025, 10:12:59 PMSouth Korea has the highest Senior Poverty rate in the OECD DKG DKG

Be grateful to your aging parents that they left SK so you could have a  better life in Canada DKG.

You owe so much to this country.

Pussycat, remember what I told you this morning after you performed oral on me about posting misleading YouTube videos.

First of all Sweetie, it's Costa Rica that has the highest poverty rate among OECD countries, not South Korea. Anyway, if you look at South Korea's poverty rate it is skewed by so many poor seniors since they were the last rich country to implement a mandatory pension plan.

Canada on the other hand is the opposite. Most of the poverty occurring among much younger ages. Did you know Canada has the fastest growing poverty rate among OECD nations? Did you know that Sugarplum?

Did you also know that one quarter of Canadians live in poverty and that number has been rising every year for year? Did you know that too Honeybuns?

Canada also has one of the lowest GDP growth rates among OECD nations which is quickly growing Canada's army of poor people.

We're Getting Poorer
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/were-getting-poorer-gdp-per-capita-in-canada-and-oecd-2002-2060

One in four people living in poverty according to international metrics and not the false ones Ottawa uses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MdmjnwgNPQ

So, be grateful productive citizens like Mr DKG are staying. Too many of Canada's productive citizens are fleeing.

I love the way JOEJ tries to deny thiel every time that thiel discloses that he is in a sexual relationship with JOEJ

JOEJ do you get embarrassed when thiel discusses your sexuality JOEJ 

Quote from: formosan on July 14, 2025, 11:15:46 AMMy children are young adults starting out in life....I want them to do better and my future grandchildren to do better than them......I am having serious doubts this will be possible in the Canada of the future.

...in which case I think the best strategy is to have a 2nd passport formosanF Fashionista.

I think it's at least somewhat true that your children and future generations ought not rely upon one income stream or even nationality/passport for their livelihoods. They may have to move around a bit.

The world's a fast changing place where mobility has become an asset.

If you have dual citizenship, particularly with tier one nations, you or your children can use that in their favor.

I would stop short of renouncing Canadian citizenship, and finding ways to ADD on to, not SUBTRACT from what I already have. Adding a passport to an existing one could be a bonus.

There's a guy on YT who often talks about this sort of thing, Andrew Henderson.

He has this channel called the Nomad Capitalist, where he find ways to obtain passports in other countries, set up shop, businesses or residence there.


I don't always agree with him, but he offers tidbits of advice which potentially may be helpful to viewers.

As you say, Canada may no longer be an all-in-one solution. But then again, very few countries are.

Sure there may be some tier 1 nations that provide their citizens with everything with top medical, cradle to the grave benefits, stable economy/society, but those are in the distinct minority these days. They are getting far and few between. So I figger if a person can find better somewhere else, but KEEP what they already have, that's ideal.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 14, 2025, 02:04:30 PMI love the way JOEJ tries to deny thiel every time that thiel discloses that he is in a sexual relationship with JOEJ

JOEJ do you get embarrassed when thiel discusses your sexuality JOEJ 

Old Joe should be Goddamn thankful any fella would fuck his sorry broke ass.

Quote from: Thiel on July 14, 2025, 01:22:46 PMPussycat, remember what I told you this morning after you performed oral on me about posting misleading YouTube videos.

First of all Sweetie, it's Costa Rica that has the highest poverty rate among OECD countries, not South Korea. Anyway, if you look at South Korea's poverty rate it is skewed by so many poor seniors since they were the last rich country to implement a mandatory pension plan.

Canada on the other hand is the opposite. Most of the poverty occurring among much younger ages. Did you know Canada has the fastest growing poverty rate among OECD nations? Did you know that Sugarplum?

Did you also know that one quarter of Canadians live in poverty and that number has been rising every year for year? Did you know that too Honeybuns?

Canada also has one of the lowest GDP growth rates among OECD nations which is quickly growing Canada's army of poor people.

We're Getting Poorer
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/were-getting-poorer-gdp-per-capita-in-canada-and-oecd-2002-2060

One in four people living in poverty according to international metrics and not the false ones Ottawa uses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MdmjnwgNPQ

So, be grateful productive citizens like Mr DKG are staying. Too many of Canada's productive citizens are fleeing.

Unlike old poor as fuck Joe, I have been all over the world and that includes South Korea. They aint got anything close to the tent cities hunger and poverty that we got in this country.
Damn, we are falling fast.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 13, 2025, 01:11:19 AMEnjoy your impoverished frozen hellhole.

Well Shen Li Shen I decided to take my retirement this year.

I figgered better now than later.

One noticeable trend is many countries are RAISING their retirement age. The new normal will be 67 and above.

USA might raise theirs to 70. Its 67 for them now. Denmark will increase theirs to 70. The other Scandinavian countries are going up to. Sngapore will increase to 64.


So a person oughta apply for it now while the retirement age is still reasonable, eh?

Quote from: Herman on July 14, 2025, 02:19:32 PMUnlike old poor as fuck Joe, I have been all over the world and that includes South Korea. They aint got anything close to the tent cities hunger and poverty that we got in this country.
Damn, we are falling fast.

Anybody that has been to South Korea and Canada can see Canada has more povery. I mean the real despair kind too.

Quote from: DKG on July 14, 2025, 09:59:08 AMThe tragedy is that the people that are leaving are highly productive people like yourself. We are falling so far behind the US. Our future is going to be very bleak unless the Liberal Party returns to what it was in the 1990's.

Old white Canadians are the problem. If Canada is to return to it's wealthy middle class nation status they must die off first.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 14, 2025, 08:28:51 PMOld white Canadians are the problem. If Canada is to return to it's wealthy middle class nation status they must die off first.

The Conservatives did win the younger vote for the first time ever. This tells us that they are concerned about bread and butter issues that the Liberals continue to neglect.

Quote from: Thiel on July 14, 2025, 01:22:46 PMPussycat, remember what I told you this morning after you performed oral on me about posting misleading YouTube videos.

First of all Sweetie, it's Costa Rica that has the highest poverty rate among OECD countries, not South Korea. Anyway, if you look at South Korea's poverty rate it is skewed by so many poor seniors since they were the last rich country to implement a mandatory pension plan.

Canada on the other hand is the opposite. Most of the poverty occurring among much younger ages. Did you know Canada has the fastest growing poverty rate among OECD nations? Did you know that Sugarplum?

Did you also know that one quarter of Canadians live in poverty and that number has been rising every year for year? Did you know that too Honeybuns?

Canada also has one of the lowest GDP growth rates among OECD nations which is quickly growing Canada's army of poor people.

We're Getting Poorer
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/were-getting-poorer-gdp-per-capita-in-canada-and-oecd-2002-2060

One in four people living in poverty according to international metrics and not the false ones Ottawa uses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MdmjnwgNPQ

So, be grateful productive citizens like Mr DKG are staying. Too many of Canada's productive citizens are fleeing.

There is more obvious poverty in Canada today than in either Taiwan or my husband's family's country, the Netherlands.

Quote from: JOE on July 14, 2025, 05:56:54 PMWell Shen Li Shen I decided to take my retirement this year.

I figgered better now than later.

One noticeable trend is many countries are RAISING their retirement age. The new normal will be 67 and above.

USA might raise theirs to 70. Its 67 for them now. Denmark will increase theirs to 70. The other Scandinavian countries are going up to. Sngapore will increase to 64.
So a person oughta apply for it now while the retirement age is still reasonable, eh?

Sweetie, I've told you many times after we've had sex that posting on forums is not a job and you cannot collect CPP from a lifetime online.

Understand now Honeybunch or do you need to drop to your knees first.

And I almost forgot to mention that Canada did raise the age of OAS to 67. Mr Trudeau changed it back to 65.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 14, 2025, 02:04:30 PMI love the way JOEJ tries to deny thiel every time that thiel discloses that he is in a sexual relationship with JOEJ

JOEJ do you get embarrassed when thiel discusses your sexuality JOEJ

Jo Jo is very old. His generation likes to keep one foot in the closet for safety reasons.

But, no closet can hold Jo Jo. Or our incredible sex life.

Quote from: Thiel on July 15, 2025, 12:52:09 PMSweetie, I've told you many times after we've had sex that posting on forums is not a job and you cannot collect CPP from a lifetime online.

Understand now Honeybunch or do you need to drop to your knees first.

And I almost forgot to mention that Canada did raise the age of OAS to 67. Mr Trudeau changed it back to 65.

Because your boyfriend did not save for his retirement when he was working age he thinks everybody is as dependent on crumbs we get from the feds as he is.

That is only a supplement to my RRSP's that I rolled over into a RIF when I turned fifty five.

That old fart is lost. Where the hell would he be without you.

Quote from: Herman on July 15, 2025, 02:36:40 PMBecause your boyfriend did not save for his retirement when he was working age he thinks everybody is as dependent on crumbs we get from the feds as he is.

That is only a supplement to my RRSP's that I rolled over into a RIF when I turned fifty five.

That old fart is lost. Where the hell would he be without you.

I got $100,000 US to invest  hey Herman Herm?

I look forward to retiring soon so you & your hardworking son kin pay a lot more tax to support me. I know your son will continue to pay into my retirement fund so that I can enjoy it. He's got at least 30 more years of work and I got at least 30 years more of retirement paid for by him.


Then I can sleep in every day.

That's the life, hey Herman Herm?

My only wish is that Lokmar was a Canadian citizen too so he could pay taxes to support Canada's generous social safety net.

I love getting free healthcare & pensions eh?

Quote from: Herman on July 15, 2025, 02:36:40 PMBecause your boyfriend did not save for his retirement when he was working age he thinks everybody is as dependent on crumbs we get from the feds as he is.

That is only a supplement to my RRSP's that I rolled over into a RIF when I turned fifty five.

That old fart is lost. Where the hell would he be without you.

I will start getting a monthly retirement income when I turn 55 too. I will have several sources of income when I retire.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 15, 2025, 08:29:19 PMI will start getting a monthly retirement income when I turn 55 too. I will have several sources of income when I retire.

I'm glad many of the gang here on TBC will continue to work to fund my retirement for at least the next 10-20 years Shen Li Shen. Some of them even have children who will take over from them when they retire, ensuring a steady stream to continue funding CPP and OAS.

That's such a relief - to have a worry-free retirement in Canada, eh?

I figger it was a better time to retire now rather than later, since the could raise the retirement age or cut back on benefits, eh Shen?

Quote from: Shen Li on July 15, 2025, 08:29:19 PMI will start getting a monthly retirement income when I turn 55 too. I will have several sources of income when I retire.

That is what I going to do too.

Quote from: JOE on July 15, 2025, 05:57:18 PMI got $100,000 US to invest  hey Herman Herm?

I look forward to retiring soon so you & your hardworking son kin pay a lot more tax to support me. I know your son will continue to pay into my retirement fund so that I can enjoy it. He's got at least 30 more years of work and I got at least 30 years more of retirement paid for by him.


Then I can sleep in every day.

That's the life, hey Herman Herm?

Sweetie, your chocolate gold coins are consumables not something you invest before they melt. Besides Sugarplum nobody your age invests anymore even if you had a job to retire from.

I am your retirement plan. You are welcome. :love:

Quote from: Thiel on July 16, 2025, 01:56:49 PMSweetie, your chocolate gold coins are consumables not something you invest before they melt. Besides Sugarplum nobody your age invests anymore even if you had a job to retire from.

I am your retirement plan. You are welcome. :love:

You are too good for that old wanker.

This video promotes the idea of investing in places like Singapore as an alternative to US denominated assets Shen Li Shen.


Given its surging growth & competent administration, Singapore may be a viable alternative to investing in the US stock market Shen.

Maybe I'll look into it as well.

Because if you have a place which is like the Switzerland of Asia without the corruption and political instability of most of the continent, could be a good place for a foreign investor to park their money, eh?

I thought about India but on the downside maybe they have too many problems and inefficiencies that wont go away overnight

This thread got me thinking that altho I'm in no rush to immigrate to Singapore it might be a good place to invest Shen Li Shen.

Maybe like Hong Kong before China took it back.

However the Big Plus is that China can never legally annex it & is highly doubtful they ever will or will attempt to.

So from an investors pov it's a much better place to invest than China. At least you'll get your money out at the end of the day.

And even tho its mostly Chinese at least its Democratic

Quote from: JOE on July 17, 2025, 08:51:46 PMThis thread got me thinking that altho I'm in no rush to immigrate to Singapore it might be a good place to invest Shen Li Shen.

Maybe like Hong Kong before China took it back.

However the Big Plus is that China can never legally annex it & is highly doubtful they ever will or will attempt to.

So from an investors pov it's a much better place to invest than China. At least you'll get your money out at the end of the day.

And even tho its mostly Chinese at least its Democratic

Jo Jo Sweetie, you are so adorable. Singapore didn't become one of the wealthiest nations on the planet by admitting seniors from Canada with no source of income besides OAS which is payable abroad, but would barely buy a meal there.

Honeybunch just keep pretending you are investing those chocolate gold coins you buy with the allowance I give you. Travelling and being an expat are not for people that spend all day on forums. Okay Pussycat.

Anyway Shen Li Shen, I would much rather prefer to invest in Singapore than the United States with the current administration they have.

I actually think Singapore is a much safer and quite possibly a much more lucrative bet than the United States. At least Singapore follows the rules of trade, commerce & the International Rule of Law.

Singapore doesn't try to intefere or shut other countries down. In fact Singapore does the opposite.
Just what Free Enterprise is supposed to do. Liberate Nations and people.

Singapore is a Model of Free Enterprise which the United States use to be.

Anyways, it was good that you posted this thread.

I will look into Singapore as a potential place to invest.

It's shit like this that is causing so many young folks in Canada to leave.
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Quote from: JOE on July 17, 2025, 10:58:42 PMAnyway Shen Li Shen, I would much rather prefer to invest in Singapore than the United States with the current administration they have.

I actually think Singapore is a much safer and quite possibly a much more lucrative bet than the United States. At least Singapore follows the rules of trade, commerce & the International Rule of Law.

Singapore doesn't try to intefere or shut other countries down. In fact Singapore does the opposite.
Just what Free Enterprise is supposed to do. Liberate Nations and people.

Singapore is a Model of Free Enterprise which the United States use to be.

Anyways, it was good that you posted this thread.

I will look into Singapore as a potential place to invest.

Jo Jo Sweetie, remember what I told you after you performed oral sex on me this morning about how rude it is to derail threads.

This thread is not about you or pretending to invest and travel. You have no income source besides your Old Age Security and the allowance I give you.

This discussion is about a Canadian who emigrated because of the rapid decline in Canada due to it's current regime. If you want to talk about yourself we can always do that while we are spooning.

Quote from: Herman on July 17, 2025, 11:48:36 PMIt's shit like this that is causing so many young folks in Canada to leave.

And yet you fail to point out that many Americans are quietly leaving the USA because of Trump hey Herman Herm?

Quote from: Thiel on July 18, 2025, 01:19:30 PMJo Jo Sweetie, remember what I told you after you performed oral sex on me this morning about how rude it is to derail threads.

This thread is not about you or pretending to invest and travel. You have no income source besides your Old Age Security and the allowance I give you.

This discussion is about a Canadian who emigrated because of the rapid decline in Canada due to it's current regime. If you want to talk about yourself we can always do that while we are spooning.

The only person that pays daily attention to your old boyfriend besides you is Lokmar. The rest of us forget he is still here. :crampe:

Quote from: Herman on July 18, 2025, 03:09:30 PMThe only person that pays daily attention to your old boyfriend besides you is Lokmar. The rest of us forget he is still here. :crampe:

I don't have anybody on ignore. I usually post during the day which is night time in North America. I'm at work, so I pick the better posts to quote. I only have a limited amount of time.

I've told Joe that his trolling style doesn't work anymore. He doesn't agree and continues impervious to forum's demographic decline. That's fine, his trolling still amuses himself.

I'll still reply to the occasional post of his if it's during the weekend and I'm bored.

Quote from: JOE on July 18, 2025, 02:23:57 PMAnd yet you fail to point out that many Americans are quietly leaving the USA because of Trump hey Herman Herm?

Nobody worth giving a fuk about.

Quote from: Lokmar on July 20, 2025, 01:18:42 AMNobody worth giving a fuk about.

Rosie O'Donnell, good riddance.

Quote from: Lokmar on July 20, 2025, 01:18:42 AMNobody worth giving a fuk about.

Do you believe that your St. Trump sent his boyfriend a bawdy letter with a doodle of a Nude woman, Lokmar?

Quote from: Shen Li on July 20, 2025, 01:22:26 AMRosie O'Donnell, good riddance.

Meanwhile 110,000 Canadians almost all of them highly skilled professionals like yourself left Canada last year. Most of them went to the US for better opportunities and higher salaries.

This year is expected to see even more of our best and brightest leave for the US and beyond. We are in the midst of a full blown brain drain thanks to the inept crew in Ottawa.

Quote from: JOE on July 20, 2025, 01:59:56 AMDo you believe that your St. Trump sent his boyfriend a bawdy letter with a doodle of a Nude woman, Lokmar?

I want to congratulate Trump on the millions that Rupert Murdock is about to pay him!!!  :drunk2:

Quote from: DKG on July 20, 2025, 09:49:17 AMMeanwhile 110,000 Canadians almost all of them highly skilled professionals like yourself left Canada last year. Most of them went to the US for better opportunities and higher salaries.

This year is expected to see even more of our best and brightest leave for the US and beyond. We are in the midst of a full blown brain drain thanks to the inept crew in Ottawa.

Same in the states of Illinois, New York, and California!

Quote from: Lokmar on July 20, 2025, 12:46:47 PMSame in the states of Illinois, New York, and California!

For the same reasons that Canada's best talent is leaving. And all three of those blue states offer better opportunities than Canada does.

Quote from: JOE on July 20, 2025, 01:59:56 AMDo you believe that your St. Trump sent his boyfriend a bawdy letter with a doodle of a Nude woman, Lokmar?

Jo Jo Sweetie, what if he did? Mr Epstein can put it next to the cards he received from Mark Carney and Bill Clinton.

Mr Epstein was close to powerful people in both parties as well as powerful people that have residences in New York like Mr Carney. If guilt can be determined by a photo then half the US Senate should be prosecuted along with Mr Carney and half his cabinet.
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Quote from: Thiel on July 20, 2025, 01:22:08 PMFor the same reasons that Canada's best talent is leaving. And all three of those blue states offer better opportunities than Canada does.

Dude, you really should see just how bad it is in Illinois. On I-39 just over the border into Wisconsin, it used to be NOTHING! There's huge developments going on right now. The same happened in Pleasant Prairie Wisconsin. Used to be almost nothing 10 years ago. Today, absolutely huge developments! People are fleeing Illinois like you cant believe.

Go south to Cairo, IL. Its a completely dilapidated shithole....I mean like terd wurld. Just over the border in Kentucky, its completely different. Danville, IL is a shithole while 10 miles into Indiana is booming. South side Chicongo is shit while Crown Point Indiana is a thriving bedroom community. St Louis metro/burbs on the Illinois side is shit while the St. Louis Missouri burbs are much better! Cape Girardeau Mo is a nice town. Drive over the bridge into East CG and its a shithole of dilapidated and closed businesses. Nothing can survive there! You have to drive nearly an hour to find a decent city!

In fact, the ONLY area that hasnt gone to shit YET is Quincy, IL However, if you drive across the bridge into Missouri, gas is more than $.30 cheaper than in Illinois.

Quote from: JOE on July 10, 2025, 06:57:19 AMThe other thing is Singapore is quite vulnerable to rising sea levels:

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What increased sea level?

Quote from: Renegade Quark on July 20, 2025, 11:55:32 PMWhat increased sea level?

The world will end in 8 years if we don't stop using petroleum products today, move into caves and eat bugs.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 21, 2025, 12:51:12 AMThe world will end in 8 years if we don't stop using petroleum products today, move into caves and eat bugs.

Hey Shen Li Shen, this guy swears by Malaysia:


Is it any good?

Right next door ta Singapore.

In fact at one time i think Singapore was part of Malaysia.

Maybe Singapore's prosperity is having a spillover/trickle down effect.

I know one of the big LNG companies Petronas is based in Singapore. They want to invest in BC's natural gas industry eh.

Quote from: Lokmar on July 20, 2025, 01:51:34 PMDude, you really should see just how bad it is in Illinois. On I-39 just over the border into Wisconsin, it used to be NOTHING! There's huge developments going on right now. The same happened in Pleasant Prairie Wisconsin. Used to be almost nothing 10 years ago. Today, absolutely huge developments! People are fleeing Illinois like you cant believe.

Go south to Cairo, IL. Its a completely dilapidated shithole....I mean like terd wurld. Just over the border in Kentucky, its completely different. Danville, IL is a shithole while 10 miles into Indiana is booming. South side Chicongo is shit while Crown Point Indiana is a thriving bedroom community. St Louis metro/burbs on the Illinois side is shit while the St. Louis Missouri burbs are much better! Cape Girardeau Mo is a nice town. Drive over the bridge into East CG and its a shithole of dilapidated and closed businesses. Nothing can survive there! You have to drive nearly an hour to find a decent city!

In fact, the ONLY area that hasnt gone to shit YET is Quincy, IL However, if you drive across the bridge into Missouri, gas is more than $.30 cheaper than in Illinois.

Having lived in both Canada and America, blue states do not have as many problems as Canadian provinces.

Quote from: Thiel on July 21, 2025, 01:20:23 PMHaving lived in both Canada and America, blue states do not have as many problems as Canadian provinces.

I've never lived in Canduhduh and wouldnt want to! Having lived in Illinois and visited many other states, its hard to imagine somewhere worse than here!

Quote from: Lokmar on July 21, 2025, 08:52:38 PMI've never lived in Canduhduh and wouldnt want to! Having lived in Illinois and visited many other states, its hard to imagine somewhere worse than here!

Great country, none beddah Lokmar!

No guns allowed tho!

I'm so delighted that you have the opportunity to live next to the best country in the world Lokmar!

Quote from: JOE on July 21, 2025, 09:00:05 PMGreat country, none beddah Lokmar!

No guns allowed tho!

I'm so delighted that you have the opportunity to live next to the best country in the world Lokmar!

4 Cucknadian citizens here say the exact opposite, josephine. PWN3D!

Quote from: Lokmar on July 21, 2025, 08:52:38 PMI've never lived in Canduhduh and wouldnt want to! Having lived in Illinois and visited many other states, its hard to imagine somewhere worse tan hl here!

I can't blame anybody about not wanting to live in Canada anymore. It has a depressing present and a bleak future.

Quote from: JOE on July 21, 2025, 09:00:05 PMGreat country, none beddah Lokmar!

No guns allowed tho!

I'm so delighted that you have the opportunity to live next to the best country in the world Lokmar!

Sweetie, stop lying or you'll lose your allowance for a month.

Canada is not even a top ten country anymore. It is dropping as we speak.

Canada has a very high rate of gun ownership. Both legal and illegal.

Quote from: Lokmar on July 21, 2025, 09:13:29 PM4 Cucknadian citizens here say the exact opposite, josephine. PWN3D!

It's like someone telling you Illinois is the best state in the union. You know better. So do we about Canada.

Quote from: Thiel on July 21, 2025, 09:29:00 PMSweetie, stop lying or you'll lose your allowance for a month.

Canada is not even a top ten country anymore. It is dropping as we speak.

Canada has a very high rate of gun ownership. Both legal and illegal.

Unless someone quotes Joe's lame trolling or he spams with "new" threads I forget he's still here.

What you posted is the reality of Canada in 2025. And if anyone thinks there are no guns in Canada, I dare them to walk along a rural road forest line in the fall during wild turkey hunting season without wearing bright orange.

Quote from: Lokmar on July 21, 2025, 09:13:29 PM4 Cucknadian citizens here say the exact opposite, josephine. PWN3D!

Joe's jurassic era trolling is beyond boring and lame. It is desperate.

Even Flynn's trolling is more relevant to the reality of forums today.

Quote from: DKG on July 22, 2025, 10:09:12 AMUnless someone quotes Joe's lame trolling or he spams with "new" threads I forget he's still here.

What you posted is the reality of Canada in 2025. And if anyone thinks there are no guns in Canada, I dare them to walk along a rural road forest line in the fall during wild turkey hunting season without wearing bright orange.

Jo Jo is still here. Adorable bald spot and all. But, only myself and Lokmar who Jo Jo has a crush on reply to my honeybunch.

Oh and I would move back to Canada if it was the fantasy country my spouse makes it out to be. It is far from Jo Jo's fibs so that is why I am in America with a better life than I had in Canada.

QuoteUnless someone quotes Joe's lame trolling or he spams with "new" threads I forget he's still here.

Quote from: Thiel on July 22, 2025, 01:20:24 PMJo Jo is still here. Adorable bald spot and all. But, only myself and Lokmar who Jo Jo has a crush on reply to my honeybunch.

Oh and I would move back to Canada if it was the fantasy country my spouse makes it out to be. It is far from Jo Jo's fibs so that is why I am in America with a better life than I had in Canada.

Joe who?

Quote from: DKG on July 22, 2025, 10:27:35 AMJoe's jurassic era trolling is beyond boring and lame. It is desperate.

Even Flynn's trolling is more relevant to the reality of forums today.

Shut the fuck up you yellowed skinned pussy. I hate to interrupt you as you have you midnight snack consisting of feline testicles tossed in chili sauce, but I feel you're talking some pretty massive shit, like you like doing if your past behavior is any indication. Anyways.

Why are you lying to Flea? You told her my Flynn account was all good. When in fact our last interaction had you saying that I couldn't post here. Which I still cannot. Is this what you North Korean dog eaters do? You start lying to everyone because some stranger on the internet hurted your slant-eyed feelings?

Grow the fuck up you fat round gook. If you weren't such a fucking dipshit when it comes to average online forum security, you wouldn't have been embarrassed that someone as stupid as me could easily override your whole entire online security protocol here and turn your forum into shambles. I let you know about them so you could fix them. I didn't harm anyone. Though I could have gleaned emails and other personal identifying information. But awesome me didn't do that.

Now fucking apologize to me you lying shitbag before I curb stomp your fish smelling ass into next week. Matter of fact you owe the entire forum an apology for being such a pussy wrapped in seaweed and rice. Apologize to jack for being a shitty forum owner that was part of the jack troll. Admit it you soy sauce guzzling Lokmar cock sucker. Say it!

Quote from: Trumplover on July 23, 2025, 02:35:38 AMShut the fuck up you yellowed skinned pussy. I hate to interrupt you as you have you midnight snack consisting of feline testicles tossed in chili sauce, but I feel you're talking some pretty massive shit, like you like doing if your past behavior is any indication. Anyways.

Why are you lying to Flea? You told her my Flynn account was all good. When in fact our last interaction had you saying that I couldn't post here. Which I still cannot. Is this what you North Korean dog eaters do? You start lying to everyone because some stranger on the internet hurted your slant-eyed feelings?

Grow the fuck up you fat round gook. If you weren't such a fucking dipshit when it comes to average online forum security, you wouldn't have been embarrassed that someone as stupid as me could easily override your whole entire online security protocol here and turn your forum into shambles. I let you know about them so you could fix them. I didn't harm anyone. Though I could have gleaned emails and other personal identifying information. But awesome me didn't do that.

Now fucking apologize to me you lying shitbag before I curb stomp your fish smelling ass into next week. Matter of fact you owe the entire forum an apology for being such a pussy wrapped in seaweed and rice. Apologize to jack for being a shitty forum owner that was part of the jack troll. Admit it you soy sauce guzzling Lokmar cock sucker. Say it!

Breakfall?

Is that you?

Quote from: Trumplover on July 23, 2025, 02:35:38 AMShut the fuck up you yellowed skinned pussy. I hate to interrupt you as you have you midnight snack consisting of feline testicles tossed in chili sauce, but I feel you're talking some pretty massive shit, like you like doing if your past behavior is any indication. Anyways.

Why are you lying to Flea? You told her my Flynn account was all good. When in fact our last interaction had you saying that I couldn't post here. Which I still cannot. Is this what you North Korean dog eaters do? You start lying to everyone because some stranger on the internet hurted your slant-eyed feelings?

Grow the fuck up you fat round gook. If you weren't such a fucking dipshit when it comes to average online forum security, you wouldn't have been embarrassed that someone as stupid as me could easily override your whole entire online security protocol here and turn your forum into shambles. I let you know about them so you could fix them. I didn't harm anyone. Though I could have gleaned emails and other personal identifying information. But awesome me didn't do that.

Now fucking apologize to me you lying shitbag before I curb stomp your fish smelling ass into next week. Matter of fact you owe the entire forum an apology for being such a pussy wrapped in seaweed and rice. Apologize to jack for being a shitty forum owner that was part of the jack troll. Admit it you soy sauce guzzling Lokmar cock sucker. Say it!

BIggie usually looks after these things. He wasn't around at the time, so I took your Flynn handle off of the ban list so you and Joe can play your geriatric troll games with each other. 

You are welcome.

Quote from: Thiel on July 21, 2025, 09:25:50 PMI can't blame anybody about not wanting to live in Canada anymore. It has a depressing present and a bleak future.

I can honestly say, hand on heart, that Canada was good to me for a while. I built a respectable small business off the back of my own sweat, made decent coin with nothing other than my own skillset and a can-do attitude. It was great, I was having fun, my clients appreciated the work I delivered in the recording studio and in live venues. And the taxman got his cut.

This all came to a screaming halt when Trudeaup's "fifteen days to flatten the curve" was implemented. Had it been the fifteen days he had pretended, I likely would have resumed business as usual and my contributions to the public purse. But he welched on the deal and I decided to take my business elsewhere. I had a number of international connections by that point, so relocating with the proceeds of my tenure in Canada wasn't difficult and indeed made sound economic sense to do so.

You are right about the future for Canada of course. I wouldn't hitch my wagon to that broken down old nag unless I had serious Fuck-You money to burn and a masochistic desire to feather the nests of an escalating welfare class who are flat out fucking at replacement population levels, let alone raising a generation of happy and well adjusted individuals who haven't been brainwashed into suicide and gender mutilation surgeries as though they offered solutions to anything.

Canada is fucked, it's going to take longer than my years left on this rock before they show any fortitude to dig themselves out from the pile of steaming faeces they are presently wallowing in. I do not care to wallow in faeces, I do care to see some return for the efforts I contribute.

And quite frankly, the weather has jack shit to do with it. Shit, I can shovel snow from my driveway in 40 degrees below, it's actually quite a theraputic endeavour and rewarding too once you can look at the end result and feel a sense of satisfaction for the exercise.

Something I doubt your JoHoMo has ever experienced, though I don't doubt you probably have a decent idea.

QuoteI can honestly say, hand on heart, that Canada was good to me for a while. I built a respectable small business off the back of my own sweat, made decent coin with nothing other than my own skillset and a can-do attitude.

I am self employed too. I have been able to get and keep steady clients  and I have been able to earn a good living.

I am fifty one. Most of my clients are over forty five. Like myself they have made their money.

It's the younger generations that will not have the opportunities that I enjoyed, that you enjoyed and my clients enjoyed. And that is the reality of Canada after ten years and counting of Liberal incompetence.

Quote from: DKG on July 22, 2025, 10:27:35 AMJoe's jurassic era trolling is beyond boring and lame. It is desperate.

Even Flynn's trolling is more relevant to the reality of forums today.

Here's a short YouTube video by a young Asian Canadian from my city Vancouver which fits your narrative DKG DKG:


I think he's Korean actually.

Shen Li Shen might also be interested in what he has to say.

So you folks think I'm biased but I try to present both pov, eh?