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I Will Renounce My Canadian Citizenship In 2.5 Years

Started by Shen Li, July 09, 2025, 10:14:11 PM

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Lokmar

Quote from: Thiel on July 11, 2025, 12:29:48 AMSugarplum, Mr Rubio said that NATO members voluntarily agreed to hike spending to five percent of GDP. You said Canada's neighbor demanded that Canada increase defense spending to five percent and as your own video proved, you lied.

Honey buns do you remember what I told you after we had sex last night about telling lies. You can say goodbye to your allowance for two weeks.

J josephine, message from Thiel!

DKG

Quote from: Thiel on July 11, 2025, 12:29:48 AMSugarplum, Mr Rubio said that NATO members voluntarily agreed to hike spending to five percent of GDP. You said Canada's neighbor demanded that Canada increase defense spending to five percent and as your own video proved, you lied.

Honey buns do you remember what I told you after we had sex last night about telling lies. You can say goodbye to your allowance for two weeks.
Our economy is essentially in recession, spending is out of control, and Carney announces spending commitments that we cannot afford.

If he was a real leader he would end his three month vacation and get back to the negotiating table with Trump to reach a deal before tariffs are implemented. And as part of the negotiations, he would rescind his foolhardy five percent of GDP military pledge.

But, that is what a leader who cares about his nation would do and of course Carney was not appointed PM to help Canadians.
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DKG

Quote from: Shen Li on July 10, 2025, 11:33:10 PMTo pay for Mark Carnage's foolish commitment to NATO will require one of three hard choices: larger deficits, higher taxes, or significant spending cuts. It will prolly involve all three.

Life was already hard enough in that frozen wasteland. I'm sooooooo fucking glad I got off that ship before it sank.
Frankly, I am not surprised that city state is beating Canada in all quality of life metrics. Singapore is a wealthier, better governed, and more innovative society than Canada.
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Brent

Quote from: DKG on July 11, 2025, 10:41:57 AMFrankly, I am not surprised that city state is beating Canada in all quality of life metrics. Singapore is a wealthier, better governed, and more innovative society than Canada.
Canada used to strive to improve living standards. Now we intentionally lower them.
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Herman

Quote from: Shen Li on July 10, 2025, 11:20:24 PMWhat the fuck is that nincompoop pm doing spending 5% of GDP on defense when NATO only calls for 2%. If Canada is smart(it isn't) it would withdraw from NATO and use that money to eliminate the deficit and lower taxes.

Singapore spends a lot on defense. We will spend 3.5% of our GDP on defense this year.
Who the hell knows what Conman Carney is doing. Whatever it is it will not help Canadians.

Herman

Quote from: DKG on July 11, 2025, 10:41:57 AMFrankly, I am not surprised that city state is beating Canada in all quality of life metrics. Singapore is a wealthier, better governed, and more innovative society than Canada.
Old Herman has been to Singapore I don't even remember how many times. The city is a transit hub for the region. It's also a regional logistical centre for the offshore oil and gas industry.

It has been ahead of Canada in infrastructure for a long time. But back in the day, working folks had better lives in Canada if you were willing to work hard.

That sure as hell aint the case anymore. Old Shen Li is right, Canada is a third world shithole now compared to Singapore.

Herman

Canadians under forty five know their country aint got their backs anymore. And they aint got Canada's back either.

Renegade Quark

Quote from: JOE on July 10, 2025, 06:57:19 AMThe other thing is Singapore is quite vulnerable to rising sea levels:



What rising sea levels? They said NYC would be flooded by rising sea levels by 2015 at one point.

Man-made global Warming is a myth. Besides, Warming and elevated CO2 are good for the planet and us. It's global cooling that is headed our way at some point and that's something to worry about.
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Shen Li

Quote from: Renegade Quark on July 12, 2025, 01:14:12 AMWhat rising sea levels? They said NYC would be flooded by rising sea levels by 2015 at one point.

Man-made global Warming is a myth. Besides, Warming and elevated CO2 are good for the planet and us. It's global cooling that is headed our way at some point and that's something to worry about.
If the alarmists are right, we'll just burn use more coal, oil and natural gas to get the temps back down from sub zero freezing.

Shen Li

Quote from: DKG on July 11, 2025, 10:41:57 AMFrankly, I am not surprised that city state is beating Canada in all quality of life metrics. Singapore is a wealthier, better governed, and more innovative society than Canada.
The main ones why we emigrated are these:
Canadians make 56.2% less money

Singapore has a GDP per capita of $127,500 as of 2023, while in Canada, the GDP per capita is $55,800 as of 2023.

Canadians are 100.0% more likely to be unemployed

In Singapore, 3.5% of adults are unemployed as of 2023. In Canada, that number is 7% as of June 2025.

Canadians pay a 65.0% higher top tax rate

The gap between Singapore and Canada will only get wider. We are making  real efforts to make Singaporeans even richer. Canada's government is doing the exact opposite to their own citizens.

Also, health care is 100 times better than in Canada. We deliver better results cheaper too. And the civil service is waaaaaay more efficient here.

DKG

Quote from: Shen Li on July 12, 2025, 02:01:52 AMThe main ones why we emigrated are these:
Canadians make 56.2% less money

Singapore has a GDP per capita of $127,500 as of 2023, while in Canada, the GDP per capita is $55,800 as of 2023.

Canadians are 100.0% more likely to be unemployed

In Singapore, 3.5% of adults are unemployed as of 2023. In Canada, that number is 7% as of June 2025.

Canadians pay a 65.0% higher top tax rate

The gap between Singapore and Canada will only get wider. We are making  real efforts to make Singaporeans even richer. Canada's government is doing the exact opposite to their own citizens.

Also, health care is 100 times better than in Canada. We deliver better results cheaper too. And the civil service is waaaaaay more efficient here.
The gaps might not be a problem if this country was striving to do better. But, as you said we are deliberately making life worse for Canadians.

JOE

Quote from: Shen Li on July 12, 2025, 02:01:52 AMThe main ones why we emigrated are these:

This is a somewhat interesting thread avatar_Shen Li Shen.

I looked into some things an ex-pat to Singapore might research before moving there.

Citizenship - I asked google about dual citizenship:

"Can singapore have dual citizenship?"

And the answer is....

QuoteNo, Singapore generally does not recognize or permit dual citizenship. While individuals born with dual citizenship (e.g., a child born to Singaporean parents in another country) can hold both citizenships until the age of 21, they are required to choose one by that age. If they choose to retain their Singaporean citizenship, they must renounce any other citizenship they hold.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

    Dual citizenship at birth:
    Singapore allows for a grace period until the age of 21 for individuals who acquire dual citizenship at birth (e.g., through jus sanguinis in another country and jus soli in Singapore).

Renunciation requirement:
At age 21, these individuals must choose between their Singaporean and foreign citizenship(s).
Consequences of non-compliance:
Failure to renounce the foreign citizenship by the deadline can result in the loss of Singaporean citizenship.

Exceptions:
There are limited exceptions, such as for individuals who acquire citizenship by descent in a foreign country and also obtain Singapore citizenship by registration.

In essence, Singaporean nationality law is designed to prevent its citizens from holding multiple citizenships after the age of 21, except under specific and limited circumstances.

And I asked about Canada:

"Can canada have dual citizenship?"

QuoteYes, Canada allows dual citizenship. This means that individuals can be both Canadian citizens and citizens of another country. Canada recognizes multiple citizenships, and becoming a Canadian citizen does not require renouncing one's original citizenship.
Here's a more detailed explanation:

    Canada's Policy:
    Canada's Citizenship Act allows for dual or multiple citizenships.

No Requirement to Renounce:
Individuals are not required to give up their existing citizenship when becoming Canadian citizens.
Other Countries' Policies Vary:
While Canada allows dual citizenship, whether a person can hold dual citizenship also depends on the laws of their other country of citizenship. Some countries do not allow their citizens to hold dual citizenship, and may require renunciation of their citizenship upon acquiring another.
Examples:

    A person born in Canada to foreign parents may be a citizen of both Canada and their parents' country of origin.

A Canadian citizen who naturalizes in another country may also become a citizen of that country.

Traveling with Dual Citizenship:
Dual citizens are required to travel to and from Canada using a valid Canadian passport

Biggie Smiles

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JOE

Another question I asked Google:

renounce canadian citizenship cpp oas

Renouncing Canadian citizenship results in losing eligibility for Canadian Pension Plan (CPP) and Old Age Security (OAS) benefits. To renounce, you must be a Canadian citizen, prove you are or will become a citizen of another country, not live in Canada, and be at least 18 years old. The process involves applying, proving eligibility, and paying a fee, which is non-refundable according to Canada.ca.
Renouncing Canadian Citizenship:

    Eligibility:
    To renounce, you must be a Canadian citizen, prove you are or will become a citizen of another country, not live in Canada, be at least 18 years old, and not be a threat to Canada's security according to Canada.ca.

Loss of Benefits:
Renouncing Canadian citizenship means losing all rights and privileges of citizenship, including access to CPP and OAS benefits.
Application Process:
You need to complete the application form, provide necessary documents, pay the fee, and submit the application according to Canada.ca.
Post-Renunciation:
If you wish to return to Canada after renouncing, you will need to apply for a permanent or temporary resident visa, depending on the purpose and duration of your stay.

CPP and OAS Implications:

    CPP:
    The Canada Pension Plan is a contributory pension plan, meaning benefits are based on your contributions during your working years according to filingtaxes.ca. If you renounce your citizenship, you lose the right to receive CPP benefits, even if you previously contributed.

OAS:
The Old Age Security pension is a non-contributory benefit based on residency in Canada. If you renounce your citizenship, you also lose eligibility for OAS benefits.
Non-Residents:
Even as a non-resident, you may be eligible for CPP and OAS payments if you have met the eligibility criteria before renouncing your citizenship, but this is not guaranteed according to UBC Faculty Pension Plan

JOE

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 12, 2025, 08:06:04 PMCanada is desperate for suckers and Singapore is not


Well avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly, I'd be more inclined to move to Singapore, keep the Canadian Citizenship but get permanent resident status over there. That way the person gets to keep the Canadian pension, passport but still get benefits from Singapore.

If I was a US citizen moving to Singapore, I'd do the same since an American could get Social Security AND generous Singapore benefits.

But if they give up Canadian or especially American - it's Nada.

That's a lotta money/benefits to throw away, especially in the case of the US, they paid into Social Security.

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