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September 08, 2020, 06:09:01 PM
Is it me, or does it seem like human rights violations are getting worse under the current Chinese president.



China Has 'Disappeared' Tens of Thousands Under System of 'State-Sanctioned Kidnapping': Report



This year, at least 20 people per day will be "disappeared" by the Chinese communist regime, according to a recent report by human rights group Safeguard Defenders.



These people are taken by authorities, without a court order, and thrown into secret locations, where they are held incommunicado and in isolation for up to half a year. Inside these facilities, people are denied access to a lawyer and family visits, and torture is common, the report (pdf) released on Aug. 30 said.



This system, which was legalized in 2013 and officially known as "Residential Surveillance at a Designated Location" (RSDL), allows Chinese police to operate without supervision and endows them with "unparalleled power over its victims," said Peter Dahlin, director of the Madrid-based nonprofit.



"If the police wanted to, they can on day one break every bone in your body, let you heal up for six months, then release you—and no one would ever know," Dahlin told The Epoch Times in an email.



Drawing from data on court verdicts posted on China's supreme court database, Safeguard Defenders estimated that between 28,000 to 29,000 people have been placed into RSDL from 2013 to the end of 2019. However, the real number is likely to be far greater given that this figure doesn't include those who were released from RSDL before any trial, the group noted.



"This is mass state-sanctioned kidnapping," the nonprofit said in a statement.



The regime's "widespread and systemic use" of enforced disappearances, reminiscent of kidnappings by South American dictatorships during the 1960s and 1970s, may constitute a crime against humanity under international law, the report concluded.



Dahlin said the system is often used against high-profile targets such as lawyers, NGO workers, journalists, and foreigners caught under the regime's "hostage diplomacy." These victims are detained for a lengthy period and released without their case proceeding to indictment or trial, the group said.



Based on interviews with China's RSDL victims, the group found that a significant number of victims reported physical torture, and all reported psychological torture.



"Once inside, you will live your life inside a small cell, and victims speak of not seeing daylight for months on end, and the fluorescent lights in the room are always on," Dahlin said.



"In fact, the only break from staring into the wall will be the interrogation sessions that often takes place in another room near the cell, most often at night, to ensure disruption of sleep."



Dahlin said that most victims who were later detained in detention centers or prison recounted their time in RSDL as "far harder, far tougher, than anything else."



Given that RSDL is a form of solitary confinement, its use for more than 15 days constitutes torture under the United Nations Convention Against Torture—a treaty ratified by China, Dahlin said.



"This report concludes that the average duration of RSDL detention points to the systematic and widespread use of torture," the report said.



The Disappeared

The case of prominent Chinese human rights lawyer Gao Zhisheng highlights how the regime uses enforced disappearances to punish its critics.



Gao is a self-taught lawyer who defended citizens who faced religious persecution, such as Falun Gong practitioners and house Christians, as well as those who had their property illegally seized by the regime. Since 2006, the lawyer has been repeatedly disappeared, tortured, and imprisoned. Gao has been missing for more than three years.



Gao's wife, Geng He, who fled to the United States with their children in 2009, previously told The Epoch Times that Gao's brother often visits the local police station in Yilin city in northwestern China's Shaanxi Province to ask about Gao's whereabouts.



"One moment, they will tell him [Gao] is in Beijing and need to ask for instructions from higher-ups. The next moment, they say he is in Yulin, and that they don't know where he is either," Geng said.



Geng has implored the international community to help with finding her husband.



"Every day, I worry," Geng said. "As soon as I stop working, I immediately think of him. It suddenly jumps into my mind, and then I call his older brother, but there is still no news."

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Anonymous

#1
September 08, 2020, 06:21:52 PM
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=379598 time=1599602941 user_id=114
Is it me, or does it seem like human rights violations are getting worse under the current Chinese president.

It's not just a guess Seoul..



The current standing committee of the CCP are more authoritarian than their predecessors and more willing to flex their muscles globally too.

Anonymous

#2
September 08, 2020, 06:48:39 PM
Xi Jin Ping has put fellow hardliners in charge of Hong Kong, Macau, and Xinjiang.

Anonymous

#3
September 08, 2020, 07:00:18 PM
President XI is a lot more aggressive on the world stage than all the other presidents combined. Except for Mao.

Anonymous

#4
September 08, 2020, 08:16:12 PM
Quote from: Herman post_id=379604 time=1599606018 user_id=1689
President XI is a lot more aggressive on the world stage than all the other presidents combined. Except for Mao.

He is so different from Deng Xiaoping.

Anonymous

#5
September 08, 2020, 08:22:03 PM
Xi versus Deng, the family feud over China's reforms



The perception that Mr Xi is downgrading Deng's role has only added to fears that a new cult of personality is developing around the current leader. The tussle over the legacy of reforms comes after the constitution was changed this March to allow Mr Xi to rule for life. Critics believe that his increasingly statist and authoritarian approach threatens some of the Deng era achievements.



In a September speech, Deng's son Deng Pufang called for a return to the reform era priorities of fixing China's domestic problems while maintaining stable external relations — an implied dig at the current trade war with the US, slowing domestic growth and the triumphalist propaganda that Mr Xi has cultivated. Given that China remained a relatively poor country yet faced international instability and uncertainty, Mr Deng said "the crucial issue is to get China's own problems right." The remark must have stung because Chinese media did not report the speech.

https://www.ft.com/content/839ccb0c-e439-11e8-8e70-5e22a430c1ad">https://www.ft.com/content/839ccb0c-e43 ... 22a430c1ad">https://www.ft.com/content/839ccb0c-e439-11e8-8e70-5e22a430c1ad

Anonymous

#6
September 09, 2020, 10:01:37 AM
The trade fights with the US has not won president any new friends.

cc

#7
September 09, 2020, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379608 time=1599610923 user_id=3254
Xi versus Deng, the family feud over China's reforms



The perception that Mr Xi is downgrading Deng's role has only added to fears that a new cult of personality is developing around the current leader. The tussle over the legacy of reforms comes after the constitution was changed this March to allow Mr Xi to rule for life. Critics believe that his increasingly statist and authoritarian approach threatens some of the Deng era achievements.



In a September speech, Deng's son Deng Pufang called for a return to the reform era priorities of fixing China's domestic problems while maintaining stable external relations — an implied dig at the current trade war with the US, slowing domestic growth and the triumphalist propaganda that Mr Xi has cultivated. Given that China remained a relatively poor country yet faced international instability and uncertainty, Mr Deng said "the crucial issue is to get China's own problems right." The remark must have stung because Chinese media did not report the speech.

https://www.ft.com/content/839ccb0c-e439-11e8-8e70-5e22a430c1ad">https://www.ft.com/content/839ccb0c-e43 ... 22a430c1ad">https://www.ft.com/content/839ccb0c-e439-11e8-8e70-5e22a430c1ad

While I do believe that Deng was a true visionary and sincere .....  I also believe the West suckered themselves into thinking that his new ways would for certain be allowed to change centuries of oppression and rigid control.



I think the West should have worked with him and even helped him, but not "sold their own farm" and allowed Western firms to move there etc. etc. at all much less before there was proof that his ways would not be reversed.



In short we should never have put ourselves in a vulnerable position with a country having such a recent bad history (like it wasn't that long before him that they even had a Mao for example, so there was a great chance that it would revert back to  its past ways )
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

#8
September 09, 2020, 08:24:58 PM
Quote from: cc post_id=379700 time=1599680613 user_id=88
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379608 time=1599610923 user_id=3254
Xi versus Deng, the family feud over China's reforms



The perception that Mr Xi is downgrading Deng's role has only added to fears that a new cult of personality is developing around the current leader. The tussle over the legacy of reforms comes after the constitution was changed this March to allow Mr Xi to rule for life. Critics believe that his increasingly statist and authoritarian approach threatens some of the Deng era achievements.



In a September speech, Deng's son Deng Pufang called for a return to the reform era priorities of fixing China's domestic problems while maintaining stable external relations — an implied dig at the current trade war with the US, slowing domestic growth and the triumphalist propaganda that Mr Xi has cultivated. Given that China remained a relatively poor country yet faced international instability and uncertainty, Mr Deng said "the crucial issue is to get China's own problems right." The remark must have stung because Chinese media did not report the speech.

https://www.ft.com/content/839ccb0c-e439-11e8-8e70-5e22a430c1ad">https://www.ft.com/content/839ccb0c-e43 ... 22a430c1ad">https://www.ft.com/content/839ccb0c-e439-11e8-8e70-5e22a430c1ad

While I do believe that Deng was a true visionary and sincere .....  I also believe the West suckered themselves into thinking that his new ways would for certain be allowed to change centuries of oppression and rigid control.



I think the West should have worked with him and even helped him, but not "sold their own farm" and allowed Western firms to move there etc. etc. at all much less before there was proof that his ways would not be reversed.



In short we should never have put ourselves in a vulnerable position with a country having such a recent bad history (like it wasn't that long before him that they even had a Mao for example, so there was a great chance that it would revert back to  its past ways )

Deng Xiaoping had the interests of the people first, not the party..



Xi knows China can't grow at the rates it used to..



So, that makes the party's hold on power less certain.

cc

#9
September 09, 2020, 08:53:04 PM
I could envision a leader losing power inside the party .. but the party itself lose control??



Also, and separately, has XI not made himself  leader for life?
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

#10
September 09, 2020, 09:01:59 PM
Quote from: cc post_id=379733 time=1599699184 user_id=88
I could envision a leader losing power inside the party .. but the party itself lose control??



Also, and separately, has XI not made himself  leader for life?

Both Hu Yaobang and Zhao Ziyang were removed as General Secretaries of the CCP..



The CCP is another dynasty and they all ended..



And yes, Xi changed the constitution to allow himself to remain paramount leader indefinitely.
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