I think the real point that Fat Oak started hating my guts wasn't all the nasty things she had previously said about me...but the moment I questioned the statement she made about a past US census and what she wrote in on behalf of her children claiming they were a very small indigenous group in the deep of South America (based on the father's lineage).

She hadn't considered that somebody on these forums (me) spent a couple of years where the father of her children originally hailed from.

I knew instantly she was talking shit and pointed it out to her... she countered with "you know nothings!!!"... I pointed out that I was more a part of her supposed children's tribal group then them, and more latino than her... 

Fucking fat stupid bitch lost her shit right smart.

Lovely! I feasted on that for years. 

Quote from: Dove on October 13, 2023, 01:48:08 AMShe's pretty text book narcissist...or maybe BPD.

 Cluster B sorts are usually pretty attracted to venues like these and they love plastering themselves to the boards constantly fighting with people and having actual nasty dramas.

 I don't have the energy for such personal axes to grind like that so I just disengage.

 She hates me because of politics differences and I don't let people bully me on it. She can't have any rational discourse because she NEEDS to feel smarter and superior to others or she gets intensely angry and abusive.

 She's a shit bag.  I honestly feel sorry for those who have to live with her. They are probably so thankful she's a forum junkie and directs so much energy at strangers online. Gives them a break.

I still would like to have Oak post here and debate various topics of interest. Her contributions are easily better than Admin who only posts memes of a former president or Holliday who can't follow a post and then calls people stupid because of his poor comprehension skills.

Quote from: DKG on October 13, 2023, 10:01:54 AMI still would like to have Oak post here and debate various topics of interest. Her contributions are easily better than Admin who only posts memes of a former president or Holliday who can't follow a post and then calls people stupid because of his poor comprehension skills.

I wouldn't mind posting with/around her but debate her?
Been there tried that. No thanks.

Her idea of debating is telling someone what they think (never getting it right) and then "debating" *that* straw man. Any attempt to clarify the assigned opinion/position is met with deflections and switching to the next erroneous presumption which then has to be clarified in turn. It never ends.

So innocuous trivial chit-chat with Lily?
Yeah good okay.
Anything approaching a serious discussion or debate is a non-starter for me.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 13, 2023, 10:50:58 AMI wouldn't mind posting with/around her but debate her?
Been there tried that. No thanks.

Her idea of debating is telling someone what they think (never getting it right) and then "debating" *that* straw man. Any attempt to clarify the assigned opinion/position is met with deflections and switching to the next erroneous presumption which then has to be clarified in turn. It never ends.

So innocuous trivial chit-chat with Lily?
Yeah good okay.
Anything approaching a serious discussion or debate is a non-starter for me.

I would still like to try.

Quote from: DKG on October 13, 2023, 10:53:50 AMI would still like to try.

Not even saying you shouldn't and I wish you much success.
Just because I didn't have any doesn't mean you won't.

Maybe Lily's and my debate styles just clash or something. /shrug

Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 13, 2023, 10:50:58 AMI wouldn't mind posting with/around her but debate her?
Been there tried that. No thanks.

Her idea of debating is telling someone what they think (never getting it right) and then "debating" *that* straw man. Any attempt to clarify the assigned opinion/position is met with deflections and switching to the next erroneous presumption which then has to be clarified in turn. It never ends.

So innocuous trivial chit-chat with Lily?
Yeah good okay.
Anything approaching a serious discussion or debate is a non-starter for me.

She's a programmed pig who needs to align what someone thinks with the prefabricated "trumptardism" she's fed on her propaganda platform of choice, otherwise she'll have to to think for herself and that fat, stupid and ugly beast hog cannot think for herself

So of course when you observe that the country and even the world has been steadily coming apart at the seems since 2021 she has to say you're a trumptard, so she can make the conversation about trump and spew her canned catch phrases. Hallmark of a true idiot.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 13, 2023, 10:58:57 AMNot even saying you shouldn't and I wish you much success.
Just because I didn't have any doesn't mean you won't.

Maybe Lily's and my debate styles just clash or something. /shrug

That pig will clash with anyone more intelligent than she is

which is about 99% of the breathing population

which is probably why she feels so comfortable at the idiot factory

Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 13, 2023, 10:58:57 AMNot even saying you shouldn't and I wish you much success.
Just because I didn't have any doesn't mean you won't.

Maybe Lily's and my debate styles just clash or something. /shrug

I avoid attacking posters directly when I debate. I am not saying you do, but when a poster goes ad hom, any real real discussion ends immediately.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 13, 2023, 11:05:53 AMShe's a programmed pig who needs to align what someone thinks with the prefabricated "trumptardism" she's fed on her propaganda platform of choice, otherwise she'll have to to think for herself and that fat, stupid and ugly beast hog cannot think for herself

So of course when you observe that the country and even the world has been steadily coming apart at the seems since 2021 she has to say you're a trumptard, so she can make the conversation about trump and spew her canned catch phrases. Hallmark of a true idiot.

You just described Oscar.

Quote from: DKG on October 13, 2023, 11:43:04 AMYou just described Oscar.

They are all carbon copies of one another

that's pretty much all of them.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 13, 2023, 11:51:45 AMThey are all carbon copies of one another

that's pretty much all of them.

That is who I was talking about when I wrote that despite proof that vaccines do not do what we paid billions for them to do, he still believes the lies big pharma puts out.

Quote from: DKG on October 13, 2023, 10:01:54 AMI still would like to have Oak post here and debate various topics of interest. Her contributions are easily better than Admin who only posts memes of a former president or Holliday who can't follow a post and then calls people stupid because of his poor comprehension skills.

 You can't debate her. She flies off the handle.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 13, 2023, 10:50:58 AMI wouldn't mind posting with/around her but debate her?
Been there tried that. No thanks.

Her idea of debating is telling someone what they think (never getting it right) and then "debating" *that* straw man. Any attempt to clarify the assigned opinion/position is met with deflections and switching to the next erroneous presumption which then has to be clarified in turn. It never ends.

So innocuous trivial chit-chat with Lily?
Yeah good okay.
Anything approaching a serious discussion or debate is a non-starter for me.

 And then she attacks your intelligence or blames you.

Quote from: Dove on October 13, 2023, 01:50:25 PMYou can't debate her. She flies off the handle.

I would still remain calm and stick to the topic.

Quote from: Dove on October 13, 2023, 01:51:41 PMAnd then she attacks your intelligence or blames you.

I am used to that. I have had posters who disagree with me call me a Trumptard, make fun of my receding hairline, and accuse me of eating dogs for dinner.