Quote from: DKG on October 28, 2023, 10:48:43 AMTrudeau's numbers are in free fall everywhere, but no more noticeably than the usually reliable Atlantic provinces. The government suspended the carbon tax on home heating oil. That is the only part of the country where the majority of homes are heated that way. Trudeau says his govenment is listening to the people, but his ideological regime is only listening to pollsters.

If you Cons win, I will congratulate you stead of being a poor sport. Whomever wins IS our Prime Minister. So none of this, "He's not my Prime Minister!" bullshit.

Change, even if it's not the kind you like, is inevitable.

We don't always get our way in real life.

That being said, I'm strongly thinking of just sitting out this election cuz the choices are rather poor.

A Liberal stalwart and a former prime minister's chief of staff is calling on the party to find a new leader to replace Justin Trudeau.

In a blunt and at times stinging opinon piece for National Newswatch published Wednesday , Senator Percy Downe wrote that the party should replace Prime Minister Trudeau as Liberal leader before the next election.

Downe also told the Hill Times in an interview published Wednesday that he believes that Trudeau could make the decision by February whether to stay on for the next election or step down before then.

That month will be the 40th anniversary of when Trudeau's father, Pierre Elliott Trudeau, went for his famous "walk in the snow" in which he decided he would not run again for prime minister in February 1984.

The political fight is heating up over Liberal plans to pause the carbon price on home heating oil.

In Ottawa, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is pushing for the NDP to vote against the Liberal carbon pricing policy with a motion set to head to a vote on Monday to pause the price on all forms of home heating.

n an address to his caucus Wednesday morning, Poilievre pointed to the NDP governments in B.C. and Manitoba calling the carbon price pause for heating oil unfair. While the pause would apply across the country, Atlantic Canadians disproportionately use heating oil while Canadians in other regions tend to use other sources.

Both the Alberta and Saskatchewan NDP oppositions are calling on a broader pause for the carbon price instead of it just being for home heating oil, as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced last week.
"So, the question becomes, what will Jagmeet Singh do?" Poilievre asked in his caucus address.

Jagmeet will not pull the pin.

What were Trudeau's advisors thinking. A break on the carbon tax only on home heating oil which only benefits people in one part of the country. Did he/they not see how unpopular this would be everywhere in Canada except the Martime provinces. Did he/they not see how this would be another policy damaging to national unity.

Trudeau's plan to pause his carbon tax goes off the rails

This can't be what Justin Trudeau thought would happen when he announced his pause on the carbon tax just over a week ago.

There is no way his plan was to make a move that would split his own party, see premiers across the country denounce his move as unfair and the opposition Conservatives put him in a no-win situation with a vote on Monday.

That is where Trudeau is at though.

While Trudeau says his carbon tax pause is national, it is really all about shoring up support in Atlantic Canada where Liberal fortunes were fading fast. Sure, some people in other parts of the country who heat with oil will get the three-year pause on the carbon tax, but the fact that this was about Atlantic Canada was driven home by Trudeau making the announcement in front of his Atlantic caucus.

"Perhaps they need to elect more Liberals on the Prairies," Trudeau cabinet minister Gudie Hutchings told CTV's Power Play when asked why one region should get a break when others don't.

Lest anyone think this is a Liberal-Conservative fight happening here, the opposition NDP in Alberta and Saskatchewan have joined with their conservative-leaning governments to call for fairness across Canada. Manitoba's newly-elected NDP Premier Wab Kinew is also calling Trudeau's plans unfair.

"I hope to be able to bring in some benefits here in Manitoba that will help you save money on your home heating bill," Kinew said this week.

So, premiers across the country, along with opposition leaders in those provinces, are calling on Trudeau to expand his tax break to all Canadians and now he faces a vote on that issue in the House of Commons on Monday. That motion calls on "the government to extend that pause to all forms of home heating."

Imagine being a Liberal MP in suburban Ontario, where the Conservatives are threatening to take your seat already, and having to explain why you voted against a tax break for your own residents.

The vote Monday is technically not a confidence vote, though the government could make it one. That wouldn't make sense though because the NDP have already said they will support the Conservative motion and there is no way the Liberals want an election right now on this issue.

Still, it will put the government in an awkward position, a vote chastising them on one of their key policies. Again, that couldn't have been part of Trudeau's plan when he rushed out this decision.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/trudeaus-plan-for-his-carbon-tax-pause-is-off-the-rails

Don't worry DKG, I'm sure Trudeau's time and that of the Liberals is running out.

You conz will git your day in the sun no doubt.

After that ya won't have anything to complain about.

Ball will be in your court.

Joe calls his lower abdominal cavity his "court" and daydreams of having Thiel's balls up in it...

He's right on one thing though (and this is presuming he is being sarcastic about people having nothing to complain about once the libs are ousted). There'll still be plenty to complain about after a change in parties, Canadian politics is more openly corrupt than that which you are operating under in Bawwstrayya.

Remember Klaus Schwab's boast about the level of control he exercises over their governance, consider how much bipartisan support there was in Oz for things like lockdowns and the thinly veiled vaccine mandates. The average voter cannot reasonably expect a choice when all their parties are captured, no matter what side of the political divide they pull the lever for at the ballot box.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on November 04, 2023, 09:04:31 PMHe's right on one thing though (and this is presuming he is being sarcastic about people having nothing to complain about once the libs are ousted). There'll still be plenty to complain about after a change in parties, Canadian politics is more openly corrupt than that which you are operating under in Bawwstrayya.

Remember Klaus Schwab's boast about the level of control he exercises over their governance, consider how much bipartisan support there was in Oz for things like lockdowns and the thinly veiled vaccine mandates. The average voter cannot reasonably expect a choice when all their parties are captured, no matter what side of the political divide they pull the lever for at the ballot box.

It'll be a rude awakening for those so heavily dependent on the welfare state in Canada. The Liberals and their NDP coalition have promised their supporters too much. Free this. Free that. Even free dental care.

so....what happens when the Conservatives get back in?
I predict there'll be a lotta cuts cuz they'll say, "We can't afford this, we can't afford that, etc.'

Even the socialist countries like Norway, Sweden and France are cutting back. So I don't see how we can escape that since the Trudeau and the Liberals racked up and continue to rack up so much debt. Even socialism has to be paid for.

Quote from: Frood on November 04, 2023, 07:39:18 PMJoe calls his lower abdominal cavity his "court" and daydreams of having Thiel's balls up in it...

That aint news.

Quote from: DKG on November 04, 2023, 04:33:49 PMWhat were Trudeau's advisors thinking. A break on the carbon tax only on home heating oil which only benefits people in one part of the country. Did he/they not see how unpopular this would be everywhere in Canada except the Martime provinces. Did he/they not see how this would be another policy damaging to national unity.

Trudeau's plan to pause his carbon tax goes off the rails

This can't be what Justin Trudeau thought would happen when he announced his pause on the carbon tax just over a week ago.

There is no way his plan was to make a move that would split his own party, see premiers across the country denounce his move as unfair and the opposition Conservatives put him in a no-win situation with a vote on Monday.

That is where Trudeau is at though.

While Trudeau says his carbon tax pause is national, it is really all about shoring up support in Atlantic Canada where Liberal fortunes were fading fast. Sure, some people in other parts of the country who heat with oil will get the three-year pause on the carbon tax, but the fact that this was about Atlantic Canada was driven home by Trudeau making the announcement in front of his Atlantic caucus.

"Perhaps they need to elect more Liberals on the Prairies," Trudeau cabinet minister Gudie Hutchings told CTV's Power Play when asked why one region should get a break when others don't.

Lest anyone think this is a Liberal-Conservative fight happening here, the opposition NDP in Alberta and Saskatchewan have joined with their conservative-leaning governments to call for fairness across Canada. Manitoba's newly-elected NDP Premier Wab Kinew is also calling Trudeau's plans unfair.

"I hope to be able to bring in some benefits here in Manitoba that will help you save money on your home heating bill," Kinew said this week.

So, premiers across the country, along with opposition leaders in those provinces, are calling on Trudeau to expand his tax break to all Canadians and now he faces a vote on that issue in the House of Commons on Monday. That motion calls on "the government to extend that pause to all forms of home heating."

Imagine being a Liberal MP in suburban Ontario, where the Conservatives are threatening to take your seat already, and having to explain why you voted against a tax break for your own residents.

The vote Monday is technically not a confidence vote, though the government could make it one. That wouldn't make sense though because the NDP have already said they will support the Conservative motion and there is no way the Liberals want an election right now on this issue.

Still, it will put the government in an awkward position, a vote chastising them on one of their key policies. Again, that couldn't have been part of Trudeau's plan when he rushed out this decision.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/trudeaus-plan-for-his-carbon-tax-pause-is-off-the-rails

This blew up in Justine's face. Former Liberal MP's are are saying it's stupid. Provincial NDP leaders and a premier are saying it's unfair.

If the liberals were smart they would dump tru-dump then let their brain dead followers vote for his replacement who will keep all the same failed policies in place.  Tru-dump has a giant ego though so he will refuse to leave and will sink the whole party.  I think that is a good thing.

Quote from: Oerdin on November 05, 2023, 11:27:57 PMIf the liberals were smart they would dump tru-dump then let their brain dead followers vote for his replacement who will keep all the same failed policies in place.  Tru-dump has a giant ego though so he will refuse to leave and will sink the whole party.  I think that is a good thing.

He is guaranteed to lose if an election was held today.

https://youtube.com/shorts/-qyAfBR2tdU?si=H834mvSlUfiFD36c

Quote from: Oerdin on November 06, 2023, 09:21:28 AMhttps://youtube.com/shorts/-qyAfBR2tdU?si=H834mvSlUfiFD36c

His policies, particularly around climate change has made housing more expensive.

Quote from: caskur on November 01, 2023, 07:51:35 AMCanada sounds like a hell hole if your post is true.

This country has gone down hill so fast.