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EV's, Reliable Power, et al

Started by Herman, December 24, 2022, 12:41:25 AM

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DKG

Quote from: Oerdin on November 05, 2023, 01:52:46 PMWow, just 11:30 at night and a line of 25 cars waiting to use the car charger where each car takes several hours.  No, thank you!

https://youtu.be/n1XeSlcuz2U?si=21S91np31zAUGlwt

I will have a gas powered car which has thousands of gas stations to choose from and it only takes 5 minutes to fill my tank.  That is before cold temperatures take a huge hit on the battery.  Seriously, a regular tank of gas can keep a car ideoling for almost three days so if you are stuck in cold weather, well, I want the heater blowing from the ICE vehicle and not the EV which has the heater stop after just 4 hours.
A three to four day wait to recharge. No thank you.
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Brent

Wyoming used to have one of the lowest electricity rates in the States thanks to it's abundance of coal. But, their establishment Republican governor's obsession with forcing wind and solar onto the grid, electricity costs have skyrocketed 30 percent this year.
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Thiel

Luxury electric vehicle manufacturer Lucid Motors has posted massive losses while reportedly losing over $225,000 per sold car.

According to the company's latest quarterly earnings release, the market has not responded well to its products. Lucid listed a $630.9 million net less for the quarter, stemming from remarkable overhead costs.

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Oerdin

I doubt Lucid is going to survive.

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Brent

It is a myth that electric cars are environmentally better than internal combustion engine cars. It is also a myth that they produce significantly fewer carbon emissions over their lifetimes.

Shen Li

More than half of Edmonton's $60-million electric bus fleet is not roadworthy. Meanwhile the libtards at city hall are raising property taxes 5.7% this year so they can buy more crappy electric buses and build more bike lanes for one of the coldest major cities in the world.
https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/more-than-half-of-edmontons-60-million-electric-bus-fleet-not-roadworthy

Do you see why I want the fuck out of Canada.

Oerdin

Showing that California Democrats really don't care about climate change as they claimed the California Public Utility Commission slashed the rates utilities will have to credit apartment building owners, commercial building owners, government buildings, etc...  By 80%.

https://youtu.be/LIB6bhrSlqM?si=JUIrAVtVyVYHpDnw

Herman

Keep one figure in mind — $16 billion. That's the total amount of economic activity generated by the entire Canadian auto industry every year.

With that number in mind, it's bad enough that the Justin Trudeau government has agreed to pump nearly $15 billion into an EV battery plant near Windsor. Trudeau is putting up an amount of taxpayer money nearly equal to the entire output of Canada's auto sector just so Stellantis, the parent company of Chrysler, and Korean electronics giant LG Energy Solutions will build one plant (worth maybe $7 billion) in a region vital to Liberal re-election hopes.

One plant getting subsidies worth twice its value and nearly equal to the amount generated by the entire auto-making industry.

To make things even worse, LG's NextStar factory in Windsor is just one of three EV battery plants that will cost Ottawa more than $40 billion and Ontario and Quebec taxpayers another $10 billion.

But, of course, what makes this triply bad is the fact that after throwing $15 billion at the NextStar plant, the federal Liberals gave LG Energy permission to bring in 1,600 of the plant's 2,500 workers from South Korea, leaving only about 900 jobs for Canadians, at least initially.

Which brings me to "Just Transition."

Remember that little Liberal gem? As workers in old-fashioned fossil-fuel industries, such as oil and gas, and internal combustion engine vehicle assembly lost their well-paying jobs thanks to federal regulations, they would be retrained for well-paying jobs in the new "green" economy.

Yet instead of training Canadians to fill the job postings at NextStar, the Libs are just giving into the easy solution — bring in a bunch of foreign workers who are already trained.
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Oerdin

This project shows why housing prices are out of control in California.  Solano County is on the northern edge of the California Delta and it is mostly rural farmland.  Investors want to build a dense walkable city to improve the economy and to provide affordable housing but no one ever wants anything built near where they are.  Worse, the 1970's era California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) always any special interest to sue over anything they want.  This often just means special interests like unions block everything unless developers give them exclusive extortionist contracts, NIMBIES tie things up just because they can, politicians file lawsuits just to demand bribes/"campaign donations", etc... 

That is why even if this proposed project is ever built it will be vastly more expensive and it will take 10-20 years before it ever gets started.

https://fortune.com/2023/11/30/california-forever-tech-city-heckle-billionaires-central-valley-flannery-associates/amp/

Thiel

The number of Germans not being able to heat their houses properly has already doubled since 2021. This is partially due to their overreliance on Russia for natural gas, but also trying to get reliable power from unreliable sources like wind and solar.
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Oliver the Second

Nearly 4,000 Auto Dealers Send Letter To President Biden To Slow Down On EVs



The race to electric vehicles isn't one that just consumers are wary about. So, too, are auto dealers.  This week, nearly 4,000 dealerships from across the country called on President Joe Biden to slow down electric vehicle (EV) mandates proposed by the federal government. 

Their letter to the President states, in part, "Your Administration has proposed regulations that would essentially mandate a dramatic shift to battery electric vehicles (BEVs), increasing year after year until 2032, when two out of every three vehicles sold in America would have to be battery electric."

The group of 3,882 auto dealers goes on to cite concerns about lack of EV demand, saying enthusiasm for EVs "has stalled" and that "BEVs are stacking up on our lots".

https://www.carpro.com/blog/nearly-4000-auto-dealers-send-letter-to-president-biden-to-slow-down-on-evs


Thiel

Quote from: Oliver the Second on December 06, 2023, 06:01:43 PMNearly 4,000 Auto Dealers Send Letter To President Biden To Slow Down On EVs



The race to electric vehicles isn't one that just consumers are wary about. So, too, are auto dealers.  This week, nearly 4,000 dealerships from across the country called on President Joe Biden to slow down electric vehicle (EV) mandates proposed by the federal government. 

Their letter to the President states, in part, "Your Administration has proposed regulations that would essentially mandate a dramatic shift to battery electric vehicles (BEVs), increasing year after year until 2032, when two out of every three vehicles sold in America would have to be battery electric."

The group of 3,882 auto dealers goes on to cite concerns about lack of EV demand, saying enthusiasm for EVs "has stalled" and that "BEVs are stacking up on our lots".

https://www.carpro.com/blog/nearly-4000-auto-dealers-send-letter-to-president-biden-to-slow-down-on-evs


A transition from anything has to be market driven. It cannot be mandated. It can be, but it will be a disaster.
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