Quote from: Frood on April 28, 2024, 01:21:44 PMThe Treaty of Versailles created Nazi Germany...

It certainly had a lot to do with it. When people are suffering economically, any charismatic person with what seem to be a sensible plan will get them to follow.

I keep saying America is in a Weimar State. We're fucked when everyone accepts that $20/hr minimum wage isnt jack shit.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 28, 2024, 01:24:04 PMHitler was a supreme dumb ass. Had he let his generals run the show, he would have won WW2 and kept America out of it.

Hitlers mistakes have been rehashed billions of time before.

hindsight is always 20/20 and everyone is an armchair expert.... things happen because things happen and you can't live life in reverse....

Quote from: deadskinmask on April 28, 2024, 01:27:31 PMhindsight is always 20/20 and everyone is an armchair expert.... things happen because things happen and you can't live life in reverse....

I would hope that everyone who's read about Hitler attacking the USSR realizes that was a fatal error where hindsight wasnt needed.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 28, 2024, 01:38:25 PMI would hope that everyone who's read about Hitler attacking the USSR realizes that was a fatal error where hindsight wasnt needed.

i'm certain he expected more support from anti-stalin russians than he received.... like the canadian trucker convoy that was mostly-american protesting for canadian rights and were villainized....

Quote from: Lokmar on April 28, 2024, 01:09:06 PMIf God told me to, yes. I'd cut them from the wombs of their mothers and dash them on the rocks. I'd kill all the livestock. All the non livestock. All the women, children, grandmas, fathers, etc.

But Biggie didnt ask if God said kill baby Hitler.

But God did tell Abraham to kill his only son Isaac and also God allowed Jesus to be sacrificed for our sins.

How many women died in WW2 with fetus in their wombs?... you let the ultimate abortionist Hitler   live.

Quote from: caskur on April 28, 2024, 03:37:23 PMBut God did tell Abraham to kill his only son Isaac and also God allowed Jesus to be sacrificed for our sins.

How many women died in WW2 with fetus in their wombs?... you let the ultimate abortionist Hitler   live.

Baby Hitler dying during an air raid is completely different than baby Hitler dying at the hands of an act by someone looking to play God.

The two scenarios are not alike.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 28, 2024, 04:44:50 PMBaby Hitler dying during an air raid is completely different than baby Hitler dying at the hands of an act by someone looking to play God.

The two scenarios are not alike.

what about viewing it as a tool of God like the angels were God's tools when they passed over Egypt killing all the first born sons including first born animals?

Quote from: caskur on April 28, 2024, 05:31:57 PMwhat about viewing it as a tool of God like the angels were God's tools when they passed over Egypt killing all the first born sons including first born animals?

As I said previously, if God ordered it, that would be different altogether. Who the hell am I to oppose God?

i doubt Gods gonna make you carry out a hitjob on a baby.... thats why we have S.I.D.S.... 

Quote from: Lokmar on April 28, 2024, 06:16:50 PMAs I said previously, if God ordered it, that would be different altogether. Who the hell am I to oppose God?

Well actually you should always question whatever you learn about God and testing your own faith. There are a few scriptures that encourage God's servants to  test God if you will but there are also scriptures that say you must not put God to the test and just obey. I would say whatever your approach is if it has the spirit of getting to deal with a matter and not justifying a sin say then your questioning is righteous for want of a better phrase.

People tend to only obey stuff they agree with but find it difficult to forgive trespasses. I will not forgive people who physically molest children and if God expects me to then that would be more than I am prepared to do.

The Bible says the only unforgiven sin is working against the holy spirit like Judas did. Judas isn't forgiven and he won't be resurrected. It's a deep issue.

Quote from: deadskinmask on April 28, 2024, 06:24:19 PMi doubt Gods gonna make you carry out a hitjob on a baby.... thats why we have S.I.D.S.... 

Plus God could have dispensed with Hilter himself if ya going to be honest.

My sister went out with an Israeli Jew and I asked him why did Hitler go after Jews and he absolutely shocked me with his answer. He said, Jews were doing bad things at that time so they were punished by God. And he is the only person to have ever said that... this was before the net.

And because I have a Bible based education I understood him. Throughout the Bible when the Jews were obeying God laws they thrived and were rewarded by God but when they were going off track, he punished them.

I never got to question my sisters boyfriend further because I don't know what the Jews were doing that was bad pre WWII because I would have liked to know his thoughts on it.

It's all very interesting but a lifetime ago.

Quote from: caskur on April 28, 2024, 02:13:08 AMThe Bible says that God thinks more of a person who dies in old age because of their good journey than the young.

I'll go look for the exact scripture and post it later.

Don't bother on my account. I don't believe in fairy tales.

Quote from: Herman on April 28, 2024, 09:53:11 PMDon't bother on my account. I don't believe in fairy tales.

In America, if you dont believe in the "fairy tale" you dont have any inalienable rights.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 28, 2024, 10:40:33 PMIn America, if you dont believe in the "fairy tale" you dont have any inalienable rights.

I have nothing against the bible or any folklore.

Quote from: Herman on April 28, 2024, 10:44:50 PMI have nothing against the bible or any folklore.

I have a big problem with people who hide under the skirt of the folklore only when it suits them.