Bereft of sympathetic representation in Salem, rural Oregonians are willing to redraw the map.
The "Greater Idaho" movement continues to gain steam, promising to liberate conservative counties east of the Deschutes River from the ruinous policies and Democratic control all but ensured by residents in the more populous leftist areas nearer the coast, such as Mayor Ted Wheeler's crime-ravaged Portland.

On Tuesday, Crook County voters were presented with ballot measure 7-86, which asked: "Should Crook County represent that its citizens support efforts to move the Idaho state border to include Crook County?"

The majority signaled their support for moving the state border westward and joining their conservative compatriots in the Gem State.

Citizens for Greater Idaho president Mike McCarter, a firearms instructor from the town of LaPine, alternatively argued, "There is a way to get better governance for central and eastern Oregon. The current location of the Oregon/Idaho border was decided 165 years ago and is now outdated because it doesn't match the location of the dividing line between the counties that prefer Idaho's style of governance and counties that prefer Oregon's style of governance."

McCarter, whose organization has elsewhere suggested that "only 25% of Oregonians who are registered to vote are registered Republican," stressed that the alternative would be to continue living under the thumb of Oregon politicians who "don't understand how we make a living. Their decisions damage industries like timber, mining, trucking, ranching and farming."

Greater Idaho suggested that the "yes" vote would likely have been more substantial were it not for the opposition campaign bankrolled by Portland groups.

Idaho Gov. Brad Little indicated in 2020 — as the first of the eastern Oregon counties began to vote in favor of leaving Oregon to its troubles — that he liked the idea of a "Greater Idaho."

Little told "Fox & Friends" that he understood "what takes place in the Portland area has a big impact on those rural parts of Oregon, and I understand they're looking at Idaho fondly because of our regulatory atmosphere, our values. That doesn't surprise me one bit."

Little noted, however, there would be various legal "hurdles" prospective western Idahoans would have to clear first. The U.S. Congress and both the Oregon and Idaho state legislatures would have to approve the border shift.

KOIN-TV noted that the Idaho legislature passed a measure last year to begin conversations with Oregon lawmakers about the initiative.

Its because Americans have a Winner take all electoral college.

They should allow the losing parties to get a share of them.

Of course it's unfair.

But it's also unfair when Republicans take all the EVs in a state as well. Democrats shouldn't get all of California either

Quote from: JOE on May 23, 2024, 10:09:20 PMIts because Americans have a Winner take all electoral college.

They should allow the losing parties to get a share of them.

Of course it's unfair.

But it's also unfair when Republicans take all the EVs in a state as well. Democrats shouldn't get all of California either

This has nothing to do with the federal electoral college, but you know that.

Can't you go play in your thread. Lokmar still reads your bullshit.

Quote from: Herman on May 23, 2024, 10:13:14 PMThis has nothing to do with the federal electoral college, but you know that.

Can't you go play in your thread. Lokmar still reads your bullshit.

Joe has a calendar on the wall from 2008. His attention starved trolling is antiquated.

Quote from: Herman on May 23, 2024, 09:53:36 PMBereft of sympathetic representation in Salem, rural Oregonians are willing to redraw the map.
The "Greater Idaho" movement continues to gain steam, promising to liberate conservative counties east of the Deschutes River from the ruinous policies and Democratic control all but ensured by residents in the more populous leftist areas nearer the coast, such as Mayor Ted Wheeler's crime-ravaged Portland.

On Tuesday, Crook County voters were presented with ballot measure 7-86, which asked: "Should Crook County represent that its citizens support efforts to move the Idaho state border to include Crook County?"

The majority signaled their support for moving the state border westward and joining their conservative compatriots in the Gem State.

Citizens for Greater Idaho president Mike McCarter, a firearms instructor from the town of LaPine, alternatively argued, "There is a way to get better governance for central and eastern Oregon. The current location of the Oregon/Idaho border was decided 165 years ago and is now outdated because it doesn't match the location of the dividing line between the counties that prefer Idaho's style of governance and counties that prefer Oregon's style of governance."

McCarter, whose organization has elsewhere suggested that "only 25% of Oregonians who are registered to vote are registered Republican," stressed that the alternative would be to continue living under the thumb of Oregon politicians who "don't understand how we make a living. Their decisions damage industries like timber, mining, trucking, ranching and farming."

I can understand why they would want to exit Oregon. But, does Idaho have tampons in boy's washrooms? That should be a human right.

Quote from: DKG on May 24, 2024, 05:58:45 AMI can understand why they would want to exit Oregon. But, does Idaho have tampons in boy's washrooms? That should be a human right.

Why doesn't Oregon just allow split EV's like Nebraska or Maine does?

Then that'd give the Eastern part of the State some of them.

I've seen the election results and sometimes it's 51% Democrat and 49% Republican in the prez election. So of course the Republicans don't get anything in that state. That's why they should split those EV's up so the Republicans in Oregon get something.

Or, they can tell Western Oregon to go fuck themselves with a rusty wire welding brush.

Much more "equitable".

Quote from: Frood on May 28, 2024, 03:51:11 AMOr, they can tell Western Oregon to go fuck themselves with a rusty wire welding brush.

Much more "equitable".

Sometimes in Canada the Conservatives only get 20% or less of the vote in some provinces during elections. But they still end up with 2 MPs or seats.

I know Canada may not be perfect, but at least if one of the parties gets enough votes in a particular district, they still get representation.

If Canada ran like the states, and the Liberals got only 40% of the vote, and Conservatives received 39.5%, under American rules, they'd still get nothing. The Liberals would take every seat/vote. And of course, that's not fair. If a party gets enough votes, they should be represented. Likewise, Liberals should be represented if they lose in that scenario too.

Say if there's 11 ev's, and its a virtual tie, the winner gets 6 and the loser gets 5.

Winner take all sucks.

Quote from: JOE on May 28, 2024, 05:23:24 AMSometimes in Canada the Conservatives only get 20% or less of the vote in some provinces during elections. But they still end up with 2 MPs or seats.

I know Canada may not be perfect, but at least if one of the parties gets enough votes in a particular district, they still get representation.

If Canada ran like the states, and the Liberals got only 40% of the vote, and Conservatives received 39.5%, under American rules, they'd still get nothing. The Liberals would take every seat/vote. And of course, that's not fair. If a party gets enough votes, they should be represented. Likewise, Liberals should be represented if they lose in that scenario too.

Say if there's 11 ev's, and its a virtual tie, the winner gets 6 and the loser gets 5.

Winner take all sucks.

Go fuck yourself with a rusty wire welding brush, Thiel-sleeve.

Quote from: DKG on May 24, 2024, 05:49:04 AMJoe has a calendar on the wall from 2008. His attention starved trolling is antiquated.

There goes my thread on Western Oregon separating as soon as Joe parked his lame as hell troll routine in this thread.

I hope they succeed in becoming a part of Idaho.  Of course, there is the risk that other states that have pockets of bleeding hearts might see the opposite happen where they vote to join a lefty state.

Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on June 01, 2024, 10:52:56 PMI hope they succeed in becoming a part of Idaho.  Of course, there is the risk that other states that have pockets of bleeding hearts might see the opposite happen where they vote to join a lefty state.

I call that win-win.

Quote from: Herman on June 01, 2024, 10:53:55 PMI call that win-win.

And then within a couple of decades there are 70-75 states in America.  The flag would look crazy with that many stars.

Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on June 01, 2024, 10:55:52 PMAnd then within a couple of decades there are 70-75 states in America.  The flag would look crazy with that many stars.

Give the contract to make the new flag to a Chinese sweat shop. They will do it good and cheap.