This would be a joke except some people actually believe America's corporate media.

QuoteThis montage from Grabien founder Tom Elliott contrasts the media's reaction to Tim Walz's candidacy with their reaction to J.D. Vance:


WALZ

CNN HOST: A Midwestern dad, like super clean-cut vibe!

KASIE HUNT, CNN: Everybody likes Tim Walz!

CLAIRE MCCASKILL, MSNBC: So plain-spoken and relatable.

ASHLEY ALLISON, CNN: As moderate and independent as it comes.

ALAYNA TREENE, CNN: A pretty moderate Democrat.

REP. SETH MOULTON, FOX NEWS: I always knew him as a moderate, one of the most moderate--

JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC: A very moderate record.

JOY REID, MSNBC: A new moderate.

JOAN WALSH, THE NATION: I think this is the new moderate

MICHAEL STEELE, MSNBC: Far from progressive.

REP. NANCY PELOSI: He's right down the middle.

YAMICHE ALCINDOR: He's not just an old white man.

CHUCK TODD, NBC: Tim Walz speaks American.

CHARLIE SYKES: He talks like a regular person.

SUSAN PAGE, USA TODAY: Tim Waltz is the opposite of weird.

CHUCK TODD, NBC: He is basically younger Joe Biden.

DANA BASH, CNN: We have a populist approach to fear on the Republican side and the happy populism that Tim Walz is on the ticket on the Democratic side

MICHAEL SCHEAR, NEW YORK TIMES: Walz is a kind happy warrior.

S.E. CUPP, CNN: Happy warriors.

ANDREA MITCHELL, MSNBC: He was certainly the happy warrior last night... and seemed to be a happy warrior last night.

JONATHAN LEMIRE, POLITICO: A happy warrior, folksy backstory.

MARK MCKINNON: They are going to be very happy warriors!

LAWRENCE O'DONNELL, MSNBC: There is a new happy warrior!

ASTEAD HERNDON, NEW YORK TIMES: Following the happy warrior mold.

JOHN HEILEMANN: Happy warrior.

PETER ALEXANDER, NBC NEWS: Happy warrior mentality.

RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC: Wicked sense of humor... Look how happy the pig looks!

***

VANCE

DAVID PLOUFFE: J D Vance is weird, extreme, and angry.

RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC: Utter humorlessness... the humorlessness and pompousness.

NICOLE WALLACE, MSNBC: Hard to believe that J.D. Vance could be any more extreme.

TIM MILLER: It's like a freak show of bros.

CHARLIE SYKES: They had J.D. Vance, dark and ugly... beneath the dignity of most politicians.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI, MSNBC: J.V. Vance.

JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC: The most extreme.

CHRIS HAYES: Being one of the most extreme.

CHARLIE SYKES: We need to recognize the danger.

S.E. CUPP: Angry and mean and dark.

JOY REID, MSNBC: Cat lady-hating sidekick J.D. Vance... This guy is really weird, y'all!

DAVID HOGG: Everybody in America knows a J.D. Vance, but we stay away from him because he's weird.

JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC: Anger, chaos.

JOAN WALSH, THE NATION: Hang-dog ex-husband.

***

WALZ

JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC: Hope, optimism, joy.

TOREY VAN OTT, AXIOS: Salt of the Earth of the Midwestern uncle vibes.

SABRINA RODRIGUEZ, WASHINGTON POST: The quintessential midwestern dad.

KAISE HUNT, CNN: Tim Walz keeps winning hot dish contests, apparently.

RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC: Tim Walz is so funny that if he's good at this, he will release a recipe for a hot dish.

MICHAEL STEELE, MSNBC: All of his time on the ground, you know, fixing F-150s.

DAVID AXELROD: Walz is out of a Norman Rockwell painting, right? He's small-town America incarnated.

ALYSSA FARAH GRIFFIN: Midwest, Your uncle, your dad.

DAVID HOGG: I have not been this happy in years... He is the guy who is always there to help you, whether it's changing your oil, whether it's fixing a lawn mower or whether it's helping to fix our democracy... It feels so good to have hope!

MIKE BARNICLE, MSNBC: I'm going to call him the coach from now until election day.

JONATHAN LEMIRE, POLITICO: Coach! Coach!

JOT REID, MSNBC: Tim Walt, the plain-spoken fun uncle who will defend the people he loves.

MOLLY JONG FAST, MSNBC: He ice fishes. He's a hunter. He does butter carving. You know, he is a rural person.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/08/09/tom_elliott_grabien_a_window_into_how_the_corrupt_media_covers_politics.html

Don't watch this video if you have eaten in the past thirty minutes.

https://x.com/tomselliott/status/1821891050836840895?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1821891050836840895%7Ctwgr%5E63d24d84da420d8b6f162e05ee8b96eb28cb20cd%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.realclearpolitics.com%2Fvideo%2F2024%2F08%2F09%2Ftom_elliott_grabien_a_window_into_how_the_corrupt_media_covers_politics.html

Actually both Vance & Walz project themselves of somewhat angry or grumpy men.

Signs of tough upbringings.

But of the 2, I'd say Vance had a much more difficult time growing up, more obstacles & had further to reach for the top.

lmao -- when left with no alternative Harris HQ had to admit that Walz is a lying sack of shit 

Quote from: JOE on August 10, 2024, 04:31:45 PMActually both Vance & Walz project themselves of somewhat angry or grumpy men.

Signs of tough upbringings.

But of the 2, I'd say Vance had a much more difficult time growing up, more obstacles & had further to reach for the top.

Jo Jo honey, some people say that about you.

While on the subject of media malfeasance.

Operation Harris for President is one of the shadiest in media history.

QuoteThe past month has likely been the most eventful in American political history. Yet the two top officials of the most powerful nation in the world won't answer any genuine questions.

Three weeks have passed since Joe Biden was pushed out of the 2024 presidential race over deteriorating physical and mental abilities, and he has yet to publicly clarify with any specificity why he took this unprecedented step — or why, if he's incapable of campaigning for the presidency, he's fit to serve out his term in the White House.

Then again, not one journalist in the corporate or legacy media has explained how Biden's obvious senility could turn from a democracy-corroding MAGA misinformation operation into an accepted reality in a single day.

If they were fooled for three years, how can we trust them? If they weren't fooled, and they didn't tell us, how can we trust them?

Well, we can't. Because they're back at it.

The Democrats' new presidential candidate, who's never won a single primary vote, might have been crowned but hasn't given a real interview or even an extemporaneous political statement since Democrat bigwigs pushed Biden aside. In a functioning liberal 'democracy,' this would be pretty big news.

The last time the vice president of the United States had a press conference was December 2023. The last time sat down with any media was June 24, when she was interviewed by the sycophants on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." Before that was the "Momala" Harris interview with Drew Barrymore, which might be the most cringe-worthy display of fawning in recorded history.

"What is the incentive for her [to take more questions]?" a person close to Harris' campaign told Politico recently. "She's getting out exactly the message she wants to get out."

Indeed, it's quite the paradox. The media continue to baby Kamala and get her message out to the public, so Kamala doesn't feel the least bit of urgency in clarifying her record.

If they were so inclined, the naval-gazing media could probably get Kamala out of her shell by doing some honest, deep dives into her history and positions. If her lack of transparency were a daily top-of-the-fold story she would be compelled to speak.

Say what you will about Donald Trump, but he's done scores of interviews and pressers over the past few months, many of them with antagonistic venues — including taking questions at the National Association of Black Journalists convention just weeks after surviving an assassination attempt.

Kamala hasn't spoken to a hostile outlet in years. She won't even take questions from her fans.

Trump's running mate, J.D. Vance, is compelled to answer questions about a throwaway comment he made on a podcast before he was even in the Senate. Kamala just sends her minions to walk back major policy positions that would fundamentally affect every American. She staked out these radical positions only a few years earlier while running for the same office. Kamala isn't triangulating her views for a general election, she is effectively negating an entire political history through press releases.

Kamala, for instance, says she no longer supports banning all air travel, meat, and combustible engines. That's nice. Kamala says she no longer believes in decriminalizing illegal border crossings. Good. The media treat her new claims as indisputable. No questions asked. No explanations given.

Is Kamala still going to try to ban semiauto rifles through an executive order? Does she believe all Americans should "end up in the same place" no matter how hard they work? Does she support defunding the police? We have no clue.

Most of the media hackery is driven by partisanship. Some of it is also driven by access. There are practical concerns for journalists. Any reporters who truly challenge Kamala are sure to find themselves on the outs. This is why we need a press, not just an outlet, to take their professional responsibility seriously. Because right now, they don't.

Instead, the same people who gaslit the nation, concealing the brittle state of the president for years — not just an abdication of their profession but of their responsibility as citizens — are now ensuring that voters won't be subjected to Kamala's swirling mind-bending tautologies and nonsensical stories.

And I'd thank them for it ... if she weren't running for president.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/08/08/the-kamala-media-blackout-would-be-amazing-if-she-werent-running-for-president/

Quote from: Thiel on August 10, 2024, 07:21:07 PMWhile on the subject of media malfeasance.

Operation Harris for President is one of the shadiest in media history.
https://thefederalist.com/2024/08/08/the-kamala-media-blackout-would-be-amazing-if-she-werent-running-for-president/

This is all part of the democrat plan. they are both trying to pull this cunt across the finish line while attempting to see how much they can actually get away with during the entirety of the exercise. THis is most commonly known as "pushing the envelope in any other context" .

THIS is what is behind the whole "orange man is going to eat earf" propaganda ploy. It's a litmus test to the idiots in their base and by extension the country at large. Designed carefully and methodically  to observe just how much people are willing to stomach when they are inspired through lies to hate the opposing candidate.

Do we really need policy and phony promises or do we just need to make them hate the other person more?

And from what you can see the latter is far more effective when dealing with a society which has the attention span of a goldfish and the intelligence of a turnip. Make no mistake about that. Even if Trump wins they have already compiled all the data which they will spend the next 4 years examining to see where improvements can be made to the mind control process.

Every plan has a contingency and one day they will have perfected the technique. And should this avenue not bear the type of fruit they are looking for? They still have the dismantling of the electoral college and the influx of millions of biased freebee seeking immigrants being imported to help the ballot harvesting process which they are so actively pursuing.

this is why I was so very for Vivek Rammeswamy - He represented a fresh face, sharp wit and solid policies. But most of all he was a fly in the ointment to this propaganda machine they have constructed around one man. Imagine 10 years of such hard work down the drain in an instant.

But my republican brothers and sisters couldn't see themselves voting for a little brown man so here we are. Taking our chances with a man who is undoubtedly one of the greatest presidents in US history but also has, by virtue of merely being alive, given these vermin cocksuckers 10 years worth of time to perfect the greatest smear campaign in world history.

See -- I am all about throwing a monkey wrench in the process which is exactly what Vivek would have been. He stripped them of their race card. He stripped them of their old white guy card. He stripped them of their misogynistic card and many many many of the other single subject elements they have the average stupid American hung up on.

Not saying I don't love trump and don't support him. I do. I donate to his campaign and will be the first in line (figuratively) to vote for him and any name with a (R) next to it down ballot. All I am saying we had the opportunity to run with a formidable student of Trump. Same policies. Same ferocity. None of the liabilities.

Just imagine every last person planning on voting for Trump suddenly gifted with the mental acumen to understand what I am saying here and maintain the resolve to vote accordingly. Imagine how many of the duped we could have won over under such a circumstance.

I would have cheered Trump on into instance living Sainthood had he told America "I am stepping aside and giving the mantle to this man. Not because I don't want to be your leader. Not because I cant be your leader but because the stakes are far too high to leave anything to chance and I believe he can peer into areas the left has made sure I cannot. I will guide him. I will advise him and he is thoroughly committed to a cause greater than any one of us"

Oh well. Let us pray Trump can pull it off and if not, pray there is still a country left to vote in someone like a Vivek in 2028.

This would be a good fit for the LAmestream Media and Double Standards thread.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 10, 2024, 09:47:19 PMThis is all part of the democrat plan. they are both trying to pull this cunt across the finish line while attempting to see how much they can actually get away with during the entirety of the exercise. THis is most commonly known as "pushing the envelope in any other context" .

THIS is what is behind the whole "orange man is going to eat earf" propaganda ploy. It's a litmus test to the idiots in their base and by extension the country at large. Designed carefully and methodically  to observe just how much people are willing to stomach when they are inspired through lies to hate the opposing candidate.

Do we really need policy and phony promises or do we just need to make them hate the other person more?

And from what you can see the latter is far more effective when dealing with a society which has the attention span of a goldfish and the intelligence of a turnip. Make no mistake about that. Even if Trump wins they have already compiled all the data which they will spend the next 4 years examining to see where improvements can be made to the mind control process.

Every plan has a contingency and one day they will have perfected the technique. And should this avenue not bear the type of fruit they are looking for? They still have the dismantling of the electoral college and the influx of millions of biased freebee seeking immigrants being imported to help the ballot harvesting process which they are so actively pursuing.

this is why I was so very for Vivek Rammeswamy - He represented a fresh face, sharp wit and solid policies. But most of all he was a fly in the ointment to this propaganda machine they have constructed around one man. Imagine 10 years of such hard work down the drain in an instant.

But my republican brothers and sisters couldn't see themselves voting for a little brown man so here we are. Taking our chances with a man who is undoubtedly one of the greatest presidents in US history but also has, by virtue of merely being alive, given these vermin cocksuckers 10 years worth of time to perfect the greatest smear campaign in world history.

See -- I am all about throwing a monkey wrench in the process which is exactly what Vivek would have been. He stripped them of their race card. He stripped them of their old white guy card. He stripped them of their misogynistic card and many many many of the other single subject elements they have the average stupid American hung up on.

Not saying I don't love trump and don't support him. I do. I donate to his campaign and will be the first in line (figuratively) to vote for him and any name with a (R) next to it down ballot. All I am saying we had the opportunity to run with a formidable student of Trump. Same policies. Same ferocity. None of the liabilities.

Just imagine every last person planning on voting for Trump suddenly gifted with the mental acumen to understand what I am saying here and maintain the resolve to vote accordingly. Imagine how many of the duped we could have won over under such a circumstance.

I would have cheered Trump on into instance living Sainthood had he told America "I am stepping aside and giving the mantle to this man. Not because I don't want to be your leader. Not because I cant be your leader but because the stakes are far too high to leave anything to chance and I believe he can peer into areas the left has made sure I cannot. I will guide him. I will advise him and he is thoroughly committed to a cause greater than any one of us"

Oh well. Let us pray Trump can pull it off and if not, pray there is still a country left to vote in someone like a Vivek in 2028.

Trump built the working class movement, but I wanted him to step aside and endorse someone else.

I liked your governor. He turned a purple state solid red. He is great with policy and a fierce with his opponents.

The coverage of Harris is a lot more balanced here. However, nobody here is keeping her quiet so they can raise hundreds of millions of dollars off of her.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 10, 2024, 09:47:19 PMThis is all part of the democrat plan. they are both trying to pull this cunt across the finish line while attempting to see how much they can actually get away with during the entirety of the exercise. THis is most commonly known as "pushing the envelope in any other context" .

THIS is what is behind the whole "orange man is going to eat earf" propaganda ploy. It's a litmus test to the idiots in their base and by extension the country at large. Designed carefully and methodically  to observe just how much people are willing to stomach when they are inspired through lies to hate the opposing candidate.

Do we really need policy and phony promises or do we just need to make them hate the other person more?

They've done it before, as recently as 2020 in fact. They were astoundingly successful in getting an accused rapist and provable paedophile[/p] into the White House at a time where the left was losing their minds over Trumps "if you're rich, women will let you grab them on the pussy" comment.

They will make any and all attempts to get their morally reprehensible candidate du jour into the White House in 2024. And I don't mind telling you I am laughing my guts up at just how blatantly transparent some of those attempts have become.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 10, 2024, 09:47:19 PMthis is why I was so very for Vivek Rammeswamy - He represented a fresh face, sharp wit and solid policies. But most of all he was a fly in the ointment to this propaganda machine they have constructed around one man. Imagine 10 years of such hard work down the drain in an instant.

If Vivek were all that and a box of crabcakes, he'd still have been at a disadvantage. Because he IS a fresh face, at least as far as the voting public is concerned. Trump had already served four years, three of which were replete with a booming economy. Additionally over those four years the US was both energy dominant and surprisingly reluctant to start any new wars. There were other positives of course, but those three achievements still stand as a track record of what Trump was capable of, something he can point to. Vivek cannot boast such on his cv.

He can run again, I would be surprised if he did not. But I will tell you this much; when I see a political establishment positively shitting themselves over the spectre of a guy that's already proven he can stand fast in the face of everything they're throwing in his way including the astro turfing of candidates like De Santis, Ramiswamy and Haley, running puff pieces on them 24/7 on the conservative equivalent of CNN (that would be FOX News), I am naturally going to keep a close eye on their Golden Boy. Accordingly, should Vivek run again, I should inspect him with all due diligence.

You may be right with your interpretation of him, I'm not saying you aren't. What I am saying is he needs to prove himself to me before I would cast a ballot for the guy. After all the puff pieces the MSM ran on him, I'm afraid he's got his work cut out for him.

Trump has already proven himself by virtue of his first term. It wasn't perfect by any means, though it was, in the balance, acceptable to me. And the weaponization of every arm of government (including the media) against him only cements my opinion that he's the guy. I'm not throwing away the chance of what might be a soft landing from four years of the current regime simply because a new shiny gets dangled in front of my eyes.

Especially not when I see some of the plays Trump has succeeded in pulling off in the primaries this time around. Knocking Biden out of the running and leaving the democrats with no option but to run THE most unlikeable candidate in the roster. I am jonesing to see her debate performance against him and suspect there's a good chance Joe won't be the only democrat nominee thrown under the bus this election cycle. Quite a track record for the party of Democramacy and Unity and you can bet I'll be roaring with laughter if it pans out that way.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 10, 2024, 09:47:19 PMOh well. Let us pray Trump can pull it off and if not, pray there is still a country left to vote in someone like a Vivek in 2028.

All cards on the table, I don't trust the electoral process as far as I could kick it. I saw what happened in 2020 and was appalled at just how much fuckery was allowed to slide through to the keeper. Particularly when it came to the counting of votes and their chain of custody. You should know that there is a list of metrics that determine the integrity of the electoral process. In 2020 the US failed all but one of them, ranking that election as shady as any tinpot dictatorship you care to name.

A dickhead like Joe can come in here spouting libtard talking points on if we will or won't accept the outcome and I might in the name of decorum refrain from knocking his dentures out the back of his scrawny pole-gobbing neck. Because one of those metrics is the ability to question if the results are valid, to recount them if necessary and to establish if the pool of voters were eligible to lodge ballots in the first place. This was not observed in 2020; had it been then I strongly suspect our libtard friends would be breathing a sigh of relief right about now because Trump would be nearing the end of his second term and they would have less reason to white knuckle it over what the next four years might bring.

I believe that the election in 2020 was a complete an total abortion when it comes to integrity and I believe they are gearing up to steal it again. Additionally, I believe there is support for the Machiavellian ideal that all acts are being considered as excusable in pursuit of their end goal that no matter who the candidate is, that will remain a constant.

In closing, I am reminded of a saying; namely "age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill". Trump has more experience against the entrenched establishment treachery. If he cannot prevail against it, I don't give much for a freshfaced greenhorn even if he might be pure as the driven snow.

Until the pandemic or plandemic, Trump had an enviable record as president. Full employment, real wage increases, low inflation, low fuel prices, peace, better trade agreements, and energy security.

J.D. Vance is a very good speaker.

https://youtu.be/nk1-_--QbwM?si=DWFV0S9tjRGMN03Z

Quote from: Oerdin on August 11, 2024, 03:25:00 PMJ.D. Vance is a very good speaker.

https://youtu.be/nk1-_--QbwM?si=DWFV0S9tjRGMN03Z

I am liking the fella better all the time. If Trump wins, he might not even finish a term. Vance is well suited to carry on the working class movement and make sure the Bush-Cheney-Romney-Kristof pricks never take back the GOP.

Quote from: Logic Sandwich on August 11, 2024, 02:29:25 AMThey've done it before, as recently as 2020 in fact. They were astoundingly successful in getting an accused rapist and provable paedophile[/p] into the White House at a time where the left was losing their minds over Trumps "if you're rich, women will let you grab them on the pussy" comment.

They will make any and all attempts to get their morally reprehensible candidate du jour into the White House in 2024. And I don't mind telling you I am laughing my guts up at just how blatantly transparent some of those attempts have become.

If Vivek were all that and a box of crabcakes, he'd still have been at a disadvantage. Because he IS a fresh face, at least as far as the voting public is concerned. Trump had already served four years, three of which were replete with a booming economy. Additionally over those four years the US was both energy dominant and surprisingly reluctant to start any new wars. There were other positives of course, but those three achievements still stand as a track record of what Trump was capable of, something he can point to. Vivek cannot boast such on his cv.

He can run again, I would be surprised if he did not. But I will tell you this much; when I see a political establishment positively shitting themselves over the spectre of a guy that's already proven he can stand fast in the face of everything they're throwing in his way including the astro turfing of candidates like De Santis, Ramiswamy and Haley, running puff pieces on them 24/7 on the conservative equivalent of CNN (that would be FOX News), I am naturally going to keep a close eye on their Golden Boy. Accordingly, should Vivek run again, I should inspect him with all due diligence.

You may be right with your interpretation of him, I'm not saying you aren't. What I am saying is he needs to prove himself to me before I would cast a ballot for the guy. After all the puff pieces the MSM ran on him, I'm afraid he's got his work cut out for him.

Trump has already proven himself by virtue of his first term. It wasn't perfect by any means, though it was, in the balance, acceptable to me. And the weaponization of every arm of government (including the media) against him only cements my opinion that he's the guy. I'm not throwing away the chance of what might be a soft landing from four years of the current regime simply because a new shiny gets dangled in front of my eyes.

Especially not when I see some of the plays Trump has succeeded in pulling off in the primaries this time around. Knocking Biden out of the running and leaving the democrats with no option but to run THE most unlikeable candidate in the roster. I am jonesing to see her debate performance against him and suspect there's a good chance Joe won't be the only democrat nominee thrown under the bus this election cycle. Quite a track record for the party of Democramacy and Unity and you can bet I'll be roaring with laughter if it pans out that way.

All cards on the table, I don't trust the electoral process as far as I could kick it. I saw what happened in 2020 and was appalled at just how much fuckery was allowed to slide through to the keeper. Particularly when it came to the counting of votes and their chain of custody. You should know that there is a list of metrics that determine the integrity of the electoral process. In 2020 the US failed all but one of them, ranking that election as shady as any tinpot dictatorship you care to name.

A dickhead like Joe can come in here spouting libtard talking points on if we will or won't accept the outcome and I might in the name of decorum refrain from knocking his dentures out the back of his scrawny pole-gobbing neck. Because one of those metrics is the ability to question if the results are valid, to recount them if necessary and to establish if the pool of voters were eligible to lodge ballots in the first place. This was not observed in 2020; had it been then I strongly suspect our libtard friends would be breathing a sigh of relief right about now because Trump would be nearing the end of his second term and they would have less reason to white knuckle it over what the next four years might bring.

I believe that the election in 2020 was a complete an total abortion when it comes to integrity and I believe they are gearing up to steal it again. Additionally, I believe there is support for the Machiavellian ideal that all acts are being considered as excusable in pursuit of their end goal that no matter who the candidate is, that will remain a constant.

In closing, I am reminded of a saying; namely "age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill". Trump has more experience against the entrenched establishment treachery. If he cannot prevail against it, I don't give much for a freshfaced greenhorn even if he might be pure as the driven snow.

Not really worried too much about florida but me and a few of my buddies might be taking a ride up to Georgia armed to the hilt to camp out in front of one them ground zero ballot harvesting centers. We'll have a cam corder fixated on the drop off box and voting area the entire night.

no violence. No interaction whatsoever. Just watching and recording.

The weapons are only there in the event one of these blue haired looney's don't feel like their lives are worth living anymore and decide to fuck with us.