We have had free needles and shooting up centres for decades thus stopping the spread of AIDS and it worked.

It seems like whatever Americans do you seem to have behaviour problems amongst your citizens.

Give 'em a hiding... that'll work.

Quote from: formosan on August 21, 2024, 08:56:11 AMAll I know Dove is that I have never seen more people openly taking illegal drugs.

Doctors have stopped prescribing opium pain killers and you can't buy low dose ones anymore over the counter  I believe that has driven more people to seek out illegal drugs.

Also because the USA opened the border, more deadly illegal drugs have entered Nth America ... Trump has promised to fix it.

Quote from: Shen Li on August 20, 2024, 10:20:10 PMThey do that in Canadian cities too. Canadian cities are becoming unlivable.

Dang

It's almost as if our "governments" are working to turn their countries into complete hellholes, isn't it?

Quote from: Rancidmilko on August 21, 2024, 12:53:48 PMDang

It's almost as if our "governments" are working to turn their countries into complete hellholes, isn't it?

Ya, almost.

LMFAO! As I've shared many times before, I had an epic argument with my idiot libtard dad back in the 80's about free needle programs in SanFran. I was of course right, fukin scumbag drug using shitstains neither turned the needles in nor did the state hold them to the policy.

We should be able to shoot bums and drug users on sight.

Quote from: caskur on August 21, 2024, 08:26:58 AMYou still can't imagine that 26-27 million people I've on the richest continent on earth can you?... we have  more money to spend on Australia plus give aid to every nation surrounding us... and since Kurt is 70 now, he paid taxes for over 55 years. Longer than half the dweebs on this board have lived...

So no more sanctimony from you, young man... k?

Now, now, dear.  I was just pointing out that nothing is "free" and that raw onions are good for the blood and can help regulate blood sugar levels.  I prefer vadalia sweet onions. All the benefits without the bitter tears.

Quote from: caskur on August 21, 2024, 09:05:17 AMWe have had free needles and shooting up centres for decades thus stopping the spread of AIDS and it worked.

It seems like whatever Americans do you seem to have behaviour problems amongst your citizens.

Give 'em a hiding... that'll work.

Yeah, I was talking about free needles for drug users.

Libs say Ronald Reagan caused more homelessness by cutting funding for mental health facilities.

Who cares?

Years ago in Miami, Florida, libs were up in arms because cops were forcing homeless off the streets because the coming hurricane would cause enough flooding to drown them all.

Homeless won't go to shelters because they can't do their drugs there.

If libs think you can't force homeless off the streets into a facility then why are libs talking about funding to facilities they think the homeless can't be forced into anyways?

Can any mothefucker here make it make sense?

Look.  I lean liberally in some social aspects but Tropic Thunder says you never go full retard.  I care enough to keep my humanity but never go liberal enough to lose my sanity because I love logic more than empty platitudes.

Never go full liberal.  It's akin to clinical retardation.

Gov't should give things that sustain or uplift humanity.

Food banks.  Shelters.  Education.

Needles for drugs?  wtf?

Why not have a gun buy back program one week, then next week give those guns to homeless to make their transition to death that much smoother and swifter than another clean aids-free needle?

No offense.  I don't mean to be personal.  But, either government is there to sustain the community or fucking not.

If government does things to bring about the end of humanity than how humane was it?  How pointless the liberal drivel.

I'm just a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude wondering what the fuck is going on, harder than Annie Lennox in her song 'WHAT'S GOING ON?"

Quote from: MrNiceGuy on August 21, 2024, 04:47:35 PMYeah, I was talking about free needles for drug users.

Libs say Ronald Reagan caused more homelessness by cutting funding for mental health facilities.

Who cares?

Years ago in Miami, Florida, libs were up in arms because cops were forcing homeless off the streets because the coming hurricane would cause enough flooding to drown them all.

Homeless won't go to shelters because they can't do their drugs there.

If libs think you can't force homeless off the streets into a facility then why are libs talking about funding to facilities they think the homeless can't be forced into anyways?

Can any mothefucker here make it make sense?

Look.  I lean liberally in some social aspects but Tropic Thunder says you never go full retard.  I care enough to keep my humanity but never go liberal enough to lose my sanity because I love logic more than empty platitudes.

Never go full liberal.  It's akin to clinical retardation.

Gov't should give things that sustain or uplift humanity.

Food banks.  Shelters.  Education.

Needles for drugs?  wtf?

Why not have a gun buy back program one week, then next week give those guns to homeless to make their transition to death thaf much smoother and swifter than another clean aids-free needle?

No offense.  I don't mean to be personal.  But, either government is there to sustain the community or fucking not.

If government does things to bring about the end of humanity than how humane was it?  How pointless the liberal drivel.

I'm just a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude wondering what the fuck is going on, harder than Annie Lennox in her song 'WHAT'S GOING ON?"

Social health schemes which I support 100% can be describe as 1 0nce of prevention is better than a pound of cure... they don't come up with these sayings for nothing you know.... needles are cheap... AIDS patients cost tax payers a million dollars a year per person... so give them a fucking needle ffs.

Never forget the Irish potato famine that went for 2 years and spread typhoid fever to whole world causing husbands wives and dear children to die..

If you stop welfare, all you will do is cause a MASSIVE jump in petty theft..  more burglary. More everything criminal.

Vote Trump and send those 20 million illegals back home so your welfare dollar stretches further.

You know, we have put over 50 years of tax into running the welfare (social security whateva) of Australia and it is now our turn to take advantage of the schemes...

I think the best society has both capitalist and socialism. It's about getting the blend right.

But in this group who aren't old enough to have lived in a system with both capitalist and socialist blends like Australia in the 1960s to 1980s..

Anyway as my friend Lady Colin Campbell says, 'more people live a good life now than in the entire history of mankind.' AND she is right.


You are also stereotyping homeless... families and women over 50 are suffering not just alcoholic veterans and junkies.

Just hope Trump gets in... Beg and really mean really Beg God Trump wins...

Quote from: DKG on August 21, 2024, 06:59:29 AMDo you mean nurses who refuse to help addicts when they are brought to a hospital?

 No no. That's a duty. That is actual help.

 I mean nurses taking jobs in those "safe injection" places where junkies take their dope and get nurses to shoot them up.

 That isn't help. I understand the concept of harm reduction, but at some point it's just enabling.

 And it puts nurses in dangerous conditions.

Quote from: Lokmar on August 21, 2024, 02:47:13 PMLMFAO! As I've shared many times before, I had an epic argument with my idiot libtard dad back in the 80's about free needle programs in SanFran. I was of course right, fukin scumbag drug using shitstains neither turned the needles in nor did the state hold them to the policy.

We should be able to shoot bums and drug users on sight.

Why? Why not just give them their opiates? Portugal has  done it... I don't know how successful it is but it's been going for years.

Opium is our greatest pain killer.

I remember watching a thing on TV about a Scottish trial on TERMINAL cancer patients over 75. The patients reported feeling no cancer pain at all...

I am all for a no pain death.


I don't like drugs like Marijuana because that drug affects your skills and mind..  I can't think of the word I mean..  I am getting very tired. You can't operate machinery or drive a car stoned on weed.

Quote from: caskur on August 21, 2024, 05:29:03 PMWhy? Why not just give them their opiates? Portugal has  done it... I don't know how successful it is but it's been going for years.

Opium is our greatest pain killer.

I remember watching a thing on TV about a Scottish trial on TERMINAL cancer patients over 75. The patients reported feeling no cancer pain at all...

I am all for a no pain death.


I don't like drugs like Marijuana because that drug affects your skills and mind..  I can't think of the word I mean..  I am getting very tired. You can't operate machinery or drive a car stoned on weed.

We arent talking end of life or diabeetus!

These are loser shitbags that sit around and do nothing but shoot up drugs, harass people, shit and piss on their businesses, camp out on peoples stoops, rob them, beat them up, and all kinds of crazy shit. I've been to California and I've seen it first hand!!!!

The propper question to ask is why dont we allow everyone to carry pistols and shoot bums on sight!!!!

Quote from: caskur on August 21, 2024, 05:29:03 PM...You can't operate machinery or drive a car stoned on weed...

All I need to operate is my game controller. Still get my butt kicked though.   

Quote from: Rancidmilko on August 21, 2024, 12:53:48 PMDang

It's almost as if our "governments" are working to turn their countries into complete hellholes, isn't it?

Just a coincidence you right wing conspiracy theorist.

Quote from: Dove on August 21, 2024, 05:21:38 PMNo no. That's a duty. That is actual help.

 I mean nurses taking jobs in those "safe injection" places where junkies take their dope and get nurses to shoot them up.

 That isn't help. I understand the concept of harm reduction, but at some point it's just enabling.

 And it puts nurses in dangerous conditions.

I got ya now.

Quote from: DKG on August 22, 2024, 07:10:25 AMI got ya now.

Junkies with AIDS puts everybody in danger.

Burly men should man the safe injecting rooms.

But really the correct disposing of needles is the crucial thing.