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Conman Carney is Turning Canaduh into a Dictatorship

Started by Herman, June 21, 2025, 04:09:30 PM

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Elect a globalist, get a poverty strickin dicatorship. This country is looking more like Peronist Argentina all the time.

By Brian Lilley



If Mark Carney has his way, two bills giving the federal government, the police and federal agents sweeping powers will be passed this week with little debate or study. Even some Liberal MPs are dismayed.

"Warrantless searches, seizing your private data without your consent or knowledge and suspending any law the federal government deems not to be in the national interest. Those are just some of the worrisome moves contained in Bill C-2 and Bill C-5 introduced by the Carney Liberals.

"If Prime Minister Mark Carney has his way, both bills would be passed this week, giving the federal government, police and federal agents sweeping powers with little debate or study.

"Bill C-2 focuses on border measures and national security while Bill C-5 is concerned with fixing Canada's economy. Both have valid goals, and both have good provisions in them that are long overdue.
"They also both contain worrying aspects that have resulted in criticism left, right and centre. The government has been criticized on Bill C-5 specifically by the Conservatives, the NDP, the Bloc Quebecois and even rogue Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith.

"It's even been denounced by First Nations leaders.
"One of the main problems with the bill is the power it would give to the federal cabinet to decide that a project is in the national interest and then suspend certain laws to allow the project to go forward quickly. The NDP, Bloc and First Nations leaders are concerned that environmental laws will be bypassed to allow projects to proceed.
"In Question Period on Monday, Conservative MP Melissa Lantsman said the real problem is the existing Liberal policies that stop major projects from going ahead. The Conservatives want the Liberals to repeal the bad policies, like C-69 or the tanker ban, rather than give what Lantsman called a "hall pass" to certain projects while other projects still have to play by the same rules.
"Right now, the bill lists 13 acts that cabinet could suspend for a project in the national interest, but it also gives cabinet the ability to add any other federal law to that list.
"Bill C-5 could face an uphill battle to get passed in its current form.
"The main problem with Bill C-2, which makes border and immigration changes, is that it would give Canadian police the ability to go to your mobile phone provider or internet service company and demand your data and any other information they have on you.
"The so-called lawful access provisions bear a striking resemblance to provisions in Bill C-30, a Harper-era bill from 2012. Of course, the previous Liberal government had introduced similar measures prior to the Harper Conservatives getting elected.

"Neither party has clean hands on these sorts of measures which are sought after by law enforcement but shunned by civil libertarians who rightly warn of a surveillance state.

"At a time when Canadians are freaking out about stories of American border guards demanding to look through their mobile phones at the border, giving Canadian police the power to scoop up your data without a warrant probably isn't a good idea.

"Beyond the public dislike, the Supreme Court ruled against warrantless data collection like this in 2014. Any attempt to enshrine the practice in law would likely lead to another legal battle that the government would surely lose in court.

"That's if these provisions pass through the House of Commons given that they have received criticism from all the opposition parties as well.

"Both bills were introduced just two weeks ago and the Carney Liberals want them passed by the end of the week. They have not had the kind of rigorous study they need to find and fix flaws like the ones highlighted above.

"This is what you get when you try to rush things."
If Mark Carney has his way, two bills giving the federal government, the police and federal agents sweeping powers will be passed this week with little debate or study. Even some Liberal MPs are dismayed.
 

"Warrantless searches, seizing your private data without your consent or knowledge and suspending any law the federal government deems not to be in the national interest. Those are just some of the worrisome moves contained in Bill C-2 and Bill C-5 introduced by the Carney Liberals.

"If Prime Minister Mark Carney has his way, both bills would be passed this week, giving the federal government, police and federal agents sweeping powers with little debate or study.

"Bill C-2 focuses on border measures and national security while Bill C-5 is concerned with fixing Canada's economy. Both have valid goals, and both have good provisions in them that are long overdue.
"They also both contain worrying aspects that have resulted in criticism left, right and centre. The government has been criticized on Bill C-5 specifically by the Conservatives, the NDP, the Bloc Quebecois and even rogue Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith.

"It's even been denounced by First Nations leaders.
"One of the main problems with the bill is the power it would give to the federal cabinet to decide that a project is in the national interest and then suspend certain laws to allow the project to go forward quickly. The NDP, Bloc and First Nations leaders are concerned that environmental laws will be bypassed to allow projects to proceed.

"In Question Period on Monday, Conservative MP Melissa Lantsman said the real problem is the existing Liberal policies that stop major projects from going ahead. The Conservatives want the Liberals to repeal the bad policies, like C-69 or the tanker ban, rather than give what Lantsman called a "hall pass" to certain projects while other projects still have to play by the same rules.
"Right now, the bill lists 13 acts that cabinet could suspend for a project in the national interest, but it also gives cabinet the ability to add any other federal law to that list.
"Bill C-5 could face an uphill battle to get passed in its current form.

"The main problem with Bill C-2, which makes border and immigration changes, is that it would give Canadian police the ability to go to your mobile phone provider or internet service company and demand your data and any other information they have on you.

"The so-called lawful access provisions bear a striking resemblance to provisions in Bill C-30, a Harper-era bill from 2012. Of course, the previous Liberal government had introduced similar measures prior to the Harper Conservatives getting elected.

"Neither party has clean hands on these sorts of measures which are sought after by law enforcement but shunned by civil libertarians who rightly warn of a surveillance state.

"At a time when Canadians are freaking out about stories of American border guards demanding to look through their mobile phones at the border, giving Canadian police the power to scoop up your data without a warrant probably isn't a good idea.

"Beyond the public dislike, the Supreme Court ruled against warrantless data collection like this in 2014. Any attempt to enshrine the practice in law would likely lead to another legal battle that the government would surely lose in court.
"That's if these provisions pass through the House of Commons given that they have received criticism from all the opposition parties as well.

"Both bills were introduced just two weeks ago and the Carney Liberals want them passed by the end of the week. They have not had the kind of rigorous study they need to find and fix flaws like the ones highlighted above.

"This is what you get when you try to rush things."
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JOE

I like livin under the Carney Regime, hey avatar_Herman Herm?

The corporations love this guy.

So should you, hey Herm?
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Thiel

Quote from: JOE on June 21, 2025, 04:50:17 PMI like livin under the Carney Regime, hey avatar_Herman Herm?

The corporations love this guy.

So should you, hey Herm?
Especially Brookfield eh Jo Jo.

You are far too old to work, but the only people that will benefit from him taking away transparency are a few corporations that he will reward with the massive deficits he plans on running.
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Herman

Quote from: Thiel on June 22, 2025, 01:29:17 PMEspecially Brookfield eh Jo Jo.

You are far too old to work, but the only people that will benefit from him taking away transparency are a few corporations that he will reward with the massive deficits he plans on running.
Conman Carney is exactly like his predecessor. Right down to the idiotic EV mandate and throwing billions away to create artificial demand.

This will destroy Ontario's economy.

Carney Liberals stubbornly holding onto EV lost cause
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lorne-gunter-carney-liberals-stubbornly-holding-onto-ev-lost-cause/wcm/0aaae55c-1f53-4aaa-85ad-ca03daa42334

This week, the Carney Liberals announced they had no intention of changing the Trudeau government's planned ban on gasoline-powered cars, trucks and vans beginning next year. Whether you want an EV, you'll be forced to buy one if you buy any new vehicle by 2035.

This is the ideological equivalent of telling people who want a house they must buy a condo, instead.

he federal government is stubbornly holding on to its EV mandate in the face of declining market demand for electrics.

Until the Carney Liberals choose not to build a new pipeline to the East Coast (which I expect them to announce in the next couple of years), this rigidity on EVs is the best proof yet that the Carney government differs very little from Justin Trudeau's.

On Friday, Mercedes-Benz announced it was making a "course correction." It was no longer committed to going fully electric by 2030. "Market conditions" (translation: lousy EV sales) were forcing it to "retain internal combustion engines longer than initially planned." Mercedes will even continue to develop gas-powered and diesel engines.

Only days before, Audi had made a similar climbdown.

Honda, of course, announced last month it was suspending construction of $15 billion worth of EV plants in Ontario for at least two years. General Motors has shuttered its BrightDrop electric van plant in Ingersoll, Ont. And when it brings it back online this fall, GM plans to run the assembly line at half capacity or less.

Since the beginning of the year, Stellantis (Chrysler and Fiat) has shied away from producing large numbers of EVs, as have Volvo, Porsche, Ferrari and the subsidiaries of Volkswagen.

My favourite "course correction" comes from Ford which, after losing $5 billion on EVs last year, announced it would be converting a planned EV plant in Ontario to making its 10,000-pound (4,500-kilogram) F-250 SuperDuty pickup.

Herman


Herman

Hey Marc Miller, I thought Mark Carney was someone we can trust! What happened?

Shen Li

When I look at what the Liberal Party dictatorship has done to Canada and then think about how they are doubling down on failed policies like energy, taxation, spending, environment, immigration, Aboriginal issues, online freedom, and so on I know the decision we made to abandon that sinking ship was a wise move.

Thiel

Quote from: Herman on June 22, 2025, 03:56:03 PMConman Carney is exactly like his predecessor. Right down to the idiotic EV mandate and throwing billions away to create artificial demand.

This will destroy Ontario's economy.

Carney Liberals stubbornly holding onto EV lost cause
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lorne-gunter-carney-liberals-stubbornly-holding-onto-ev-lost-cause/wcm/0aaae55c-1f53-4aaa-85ad-ca03daa42334

This week, the Carney Liberals announced they had no intention of changing the Trudeau government's planned ban on gasoline-powered cars, trucks and vans beginning next year. Whether you want an EV, you'll be forced to buy one if you buy any new vehicle by 2035.

This is the ideological equivalent of telling people who want a house they must buy a condo, instead.

he federal government is stubbornly holding on to its EV mandate in the face of declining market demand for electrics.

Until the Carney Liberals choose not to build a new pipeline to the East Coast (which I expect them to announce in the next couple of years), this rigidity on EVs is the best proof yet that the Carney government differs very little from Justin Trudeau's.

On Friday, Mercedes-Benz announced it was making a "course correction." It was no longer committed to going fully electric by 2030. "Market conditions" (translation: lousy EV sales) were forcing it to "retain internal combustion engines longer than initially planned." Mercedes will even continue to develop gas-powered and diesel engines.

Only days before, Audi had made a similar climbdown.

Honda, of course, announced last month it was suspending construction of $15 billion worth of EV plants in Ontario for at least two years. General Motors has shuttered its BrightDrop electric van plant in Ingersoll, Ont. And when it brings it back online this fall, GM plans to run the assembly line at half capacity or less.

Since the beginning of the year, Stellantis (Chrysler and Fiat) has shied away from producing large numbers of EVs, as have Volvo, Porsche, Ferrari and the subsidiaries of Volkswagen.

My favourite "course correction" comes from Ford which, after losing $5 billion on EVs last year, announced it would be converting a planned EV plant in Ontario to making its 10,000-pound (4,500-kilogram) F-250 SuperDuty pickup.
I guarantee Mr Carney's ev mandate and net zero decree will not impact his carbon intensive globetrotting lifestyle.

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Shen Li

Some facts to ponder Canadians while Mark Carnage takes away your choice to drive the car you want.

Canada has 30,000 public charging stations. That country would need to double the amount they have right now and build 60,000 per year for the next decade to meet the bare minimum needed for an all electric fleet of cars.

Canada would need 14 new Canadu reactors costing about $15 billion each to meet it's electricity needs for just private cars. That does not include commercial vehicles.

Canada would need at least 12 new Site C sized dams costing $16 billion each to meet the demand just from personal elect4ric vehicles.

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Thiel

Quote from: Shen Li on June 23, 2025, 09:04:28 PMSome facts to ponder Canadians while Mark Carnage takes away your choice to drive the car you want.

Canada has 30,000 public charging stations. That country would need to double the amount they have right now and build 60,000 per year for the next decade to meet the bare minimum needed for an all electric fleet of cars.

Canada would need 14 new Canadu reactors costing about $15 billion each to meet it's electricity needs for just private cars. That does not include commercial vehicles.

Canada would need at least 12 new Site C sized dams costing $16 billion each to meet the demand just from personal elect4ric vehicles.


Mr Carney's EV mandate is impossible. So is net zero. He knows that, but he will make you poor trying to achieve both.
gay, conservative and proud

DKG

Quote from: Shen Li on June 23, 2025, 09:04:28 PMSome facts to ponder Canadians while Mark Carnage takes away your choice to drive the car you want.

Canada has 30,000 public charging stations. That country would need to double the amount they have right now and build 60,000 per year for the next decade to meet the bare minimum needed for an all electric fleet of cars.

Canada would need 14 new Canadu reactors costing about $15 billion each to meet it's electricity needs for just private cars. That does not include commercial vehicles.

Canada would need at least 12 new Site C sized dams costing $16 billion each to meet the demand just from personal elect4ric vehicles.


Right across Canada there are warnings not use hair dryers in the coldest days of winter. Where are they going to get the juice for twenty million electric vehicles.
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Lokmar

Quote from: DKG on June 24, 2025, 10:49:43 AMRight across Canada there are warnings not use hair dryers in the coldest days of winter. Where are they going to get the juice for twenty million electric vehicles.

Your average soi-boi and man hating bimbo thinks a fuking electric car uses the same amount of power as a hair drier!
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JOE

Quote from: Shen Li on June 23, 2025, 09:04:28 PMSome facts to ponder Canadians while Mark Carnage takes away your choice to drive the car you want.

Canada has 30,000 public charging stations. That country would need to double the amount they have right now and build 60,000 per year for the next decade to meet the bare minimum needed for an all electric fleet of cars.

Canada would need 14 new Canadu reactors costing about $15 billion each to meet it's electricity needs for just private cars. That does not include commercial vehicles.

Canada would need at least 12 new Site C sized dams costing $16 billion each to meet the demand just from personal elect4ric vehicles.



Yeah I bet the Canadian government will be forced to compromise & hybrid vehicles will become more popular if not the norm by 2035 avatar_Shen Li Shen.

Actually I read somewhere that while EV sales are declining, hybrid sales are going up.

So the kind of people who are buying them are seeking something in the middle.

formosan

Quote from: DKG on June 24, 2025, 10:49:43 AMRight across Canada there are warnings not use hair dryers in the coldest days of winter. Where are they going to get the juice for twenty million electric vehicles.
it was so bad two winters ago when we had two weeks of below -35 that there were rolling blackouts.
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Lokmar

Quote from: JOE on June 24, 2025, 11:18:56 AMYeah I bet the Canadian government will be forced to compromise & hybrid vehicles will become more popular if not the norm by 2035 avatar_Shen Li Shen.

Actually I read somewhere that while EV sales are declining, hybrid sales are going up.

So the kind of people who are buying them are seeking something in the middle.

Dont underestimate how intransigent and stubborn stupid motherfuckers like you are, josephine!

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