Quote from: Shen Li on October 21, 2025, 10:54:51 PMOh fuck you are no fun to troll with racism.

lol.... i'm not THAT "southern"....   

Quote from: DKG on October 21, 2025, 10:54:32 PMI have noticed that too. Most of the far left posters on the forums do not have full time employment. One of the reasons why Garraty is a leftist who will talk and use reason could be that he is employed.

I attribute it to the fact that I'm not and never have been a democrat or a member of any other political party for that matter. I don't have a "team" except in the broadest sense that all you other mostly hairless bipedal apes are my people. The good, the bad, and even the hopelessly haplessly stoopid.

Apes together strong.

Apes fighting amongst themselves = ape snacks for predators.

It really is that simple.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 21, 2025, 11:19:54 PMApes together strong. Apes fighting amongst themselves = ape snacks for predators. It really is that simple.

how do you square that with being a leftist? because that doesn't align with liberal ideology.... at least not what i've seen....

Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 21, 2025, 11:19:54 PMI attribute it to the fact that I'm not and never have been a democrat or a member of any other political party for that matter. I don't have a "team" except in the broadest sense that all you other mostly hairless bipedal apes are my people. The good, the bad, and even the hopelessly haplessly stoopid.

Apes together strong.

Apes fighting amongst themselves = ape snacks for predators.

It really is that simple.

Nobody can accuse you of being partisan.

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 21, 2025, 11:24:46 PMhow do you square that with being a leftist? because that doesn't align with liberal ideology.... at least not what i've seen....

I am not trying to speak for Garraty. He is more than capable of speaking for himself.

A lot of what you and most people for that matter consider liberal ideology is partisan Democrat talking points.

I consider myself a traditional liberal. Since the modern definition of liberal is often illiberal most people consider me conservative or even  right wing.

Everything political is ass backwards today.

Quote from: DKG on October 21, 2025, 11:31:39 PMI am not trying to speak for Garraty. He is more than capable of speaking for himself.

A lot of what you and most people for that matter consider liberal ideology is partisan Democrat talking points.

I consider myself a traditional liberal. Since the modern definition of liberal is often illiberal most people consider me conservative or even  right wing.

Everything political is ass backwards today.

no doubt the partys been hijacked.... but its been hijacked by ppl that are so crazy and so extreme that i can't see anyone moderate or sane identifying themselves as "leftist" or "democrat"....     

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 21, 2025, 11:35:23 PMno doubt the partys been hijacked.... but its been hijacked by ppl that are so crazy and so extreme that i can't see anyone moderate or sane identifying themselves as "leftist" or "democrat"....     

That is true. In the US, the terms leftist and Democrat are synonymous. Garraty sees through the Democrats phoniness.

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 21, 2025, 11:24:46 PMhow do you square that with being a leftist? because that doesn't align with liberal ideology.... at least not what i've seen....

The thing is I don't think of myself as a "leftist" or any other kind of -ist.

I have views and opinions based on my life experiences, logic, available data, and empathy. It's other people who classify me as being a this-ist or a that-ist based on my views and opinions. I don't control what other people think or how they see me; I don't even try. Others are every bit entitled to their views and opinions as I am to mine.

I only sometimes refer to myself as a "leftist" or a "progressive" (but *never* a "liberal" <spit>; that term has been appropriated by some truly vile creatures and they're welcome to it) for convenience's sake because most people seem to need such terms in order to process information and those labels are generally the closest to being accurate although they're still appallingly inadequate, partly because the definition of those terms varies wildly from one person to another and the consensus definitions themselves shift over time.


TL;DR:

I don't square anything with anything.
Ideological pigeonholes are playthings for other people.

Louvre heist.

They got a crane and just waltzed in, broke the glass and waltzed out.

Hopefully they dont scrap them but sell them to some rich guys private collection.


I´m hearing about diversity hire female staff but I havent confirmed the information yet.


The displays used to be more robust with armored glass and they had mechanism that dropped the jewels into a safe if the display was disturbed.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 22, 2025, 07:36:29 AMThe thing is I don't think of myself as a "leftist" or any other kind of -ist.

I have views and opinions based on my life experiences, logic, available data, and empathy. It's other people who classify me as being a this-ist or a that-ist based on my views and opinions. I don't control what other people think or how they see me; I don't even try. Others are every bit entitled to their views and opinions as I am to mine.

I only sometimes refer to myself as a "leftist" or a "progressive" (but *never* a "liberal" <spit>; that term has been appropriated by some truly vile creatures and they're welcome to it) for convenience's sake because most people seem to need such terms in order to process information and those labels are generally the closest to being accurate although they're still appallingly inadequate, partly because the definition of those terms varies wildly from one person to another and the consensus definitions themselves shift over time.


TL;DR:

I don't square anything with anything.
Ideological pigeonholes are playthings for other people.

We have had leftists or never Republicans or whatever you want to call them on here in the past who were shocked when I refer to myself as a classical liberal. They seem to think that has always meant cancel culture.

Holliday Seamoron and Lotusbud are not the brightest bulbs.

Quote from: Shen Li on October 21, 2025, 09:03:40 PMNobody is a real Xtian. It's a man made construct.

God made.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 22, 2025, 07:36:29 AMI have views and opinions based on my life experiences, logic, available data, and empathy. It's other people who classify me as being a this-ist or a that-ist based on my views and opinions. I don't control what other people think or how they see me; I don't even try. Others are every bit entitled to their views and opinions as I am to mine.

i would love to know what "views and opinions based on logic and available data" are considered as "leftist or progressive" by anybody.... and please don't "tldr" me.... i come here for the sole purpose of "reading".... i think ppl are fascinating.... even boring ppl.... sometimes the boring ppl are the MOST fascinating.... seamonkey probably the most amazing yet.... because i can't understand how he functions with such limited brain capacity and diminutive understanding of how the world works....

Quote from: Odinson on October 22, 2025, 08:52:07 AMLouvre heist.

They got a crane and just waltzed in, broke the glass and waltzed out.

Hopefully they dont scrap them but sell them to some rich guys private collection.


I´m hearing about diversity hire female staff but I havent confirmed the information yet.


The displays used to be more robust with armored glass and they had mechanism that dropped the jewels into a safe if the display was disturbed.

I read about that.

I assumed the Lovre had better security than that.

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 22, 2025, 09:42:11 AMi would love to know what "views and opinions based on logic and available data" are considered as "leftist or progressive" by anybody.... and please don't "tldr" me.... i come here for the sole purpose of "reading".... i think ppl are fascinating.... even boring ppl.... sometimes the boring ppl are the MOST fascinating.... seamonkey probably the most amazing yet.... because i can't understand how he functions with such limited brain capacity and diminutive understanding of how the world works....

Again I do not want to speak on behalf of Garraty. He is more than capable of expressing his own opinions.

I did kind of address in my post how language has evolved. I still consider myself a classical liberal much to the chagrin of people with limited brain capacity like Seamonkey.

Liberalism used to mean smaller government and defending free speech even if it is despised.

Leftism is trickier. The far left and the far right have more in common than either side will admit. The word is still about taking away freedom and choice. Much like the radical right.

Quote from: DKG on October 22, 2025, 09:48:09 AMLiberalism used to mean smaller government and defending free speech even if it is despised.

conservatism has ALWAYS been about that and probably always will.... i dunno where you're from but i've never seen "liberalism" want smaller government....