Quote from: Garraty_47 on November 01, 2025, 07:28:39 AMIt's a perfect example of why I detest capitalism... murdering the future for a transitory bump in a quarterly profit report that only enriches a few people at the expense of everyone else is, in my opinion, fucking insane.

There are mega rich in every culture. Look at the Russian Oligarchs with the big yachts for example.

Global warning/climate change is an absolute fucking joke as is the idea that anyone in the over regulated USA is destroying the environment. We dont build jack shit anymore so the type of waterway discharge that existed as late as the 1970's is impossible.

Particulate emissions from diesel engines have been reduced 96% in the last 35 years. A cars gasoline engine has been cleaned up so much so that its become difficult to suicide yourself via carbon monoxide in an enclosed garage! You're as likely to kill yourself from oxygen deprivation. Everything sold en masse thats chromed comes from somewhere else and high end chrome such as getting a bumper re-chromed off an old car is expensive and the waste is completely recovered and processed. The biggest pollution problems we have are some landfills and military sites contaminated 50 years ago! The damned body shop I worked at had to have Safe-T-Kleen haul off the used thinner BY LAW even 30 years ago!!!

Have any of you seen a coal fired power plant built in the last 20 years? Theres one at the corner of I-55 and Stevenson Dr in Springfield, IL. Look at that fucking monstrosity on Google Maps! The building I'm referring to is closest to the highway and what you CANT see is its TWICE as tall as the older buildings to the east and all of that is because of the scrubbers! Street view off Stevenson Dr shows exactly WTF I'm talking about.  It doesnt put out pollution which wasnt even a fucking major problem to begin with. I never even see the old plants running anymore and after all this investment in this new state of the art coal fired powerplant, they want to decommission it in the next 10 years!

For some stupid reason, humans in the west are addicted to fatalism. Its like we cant live unless we feel as if we're on the verge of extinction 24/7. What a bunch of stupid fucking lemmings! You think them assholes in India WHO ACTUALLY GET POISONED 24/7 waste their lives like a bunch of mewling fukin Karens? 

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 04:06:01 AMI know "of" Joe from a handful of posts.

He is dumber? Than what? You?

Yes, but I meant a damp sponge.

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 05:46:18 AMThe biggest single issue I have with the Republican Party is that they don't give a crap about the environment, they often dismiss global warming and climate change as BS and they promote policies that increase and worsen destruction of the planet in exchange for improving the economy.

The second is that, especially under the current administration, the deficit is skyrocketing.

I thought the super rich progressives who have been telling us that climate change is an existential threat while they travel the world in private planes and build mansions beside oceans have finally admitted it is not as much of a threat to mankind as they told us. Maybe they have made enough money milking that apocalyptic threat or maybe they see a new opportunity in something else. Maybe it is AI.

I thought the Trump administration has found new savings with DOGE cuts and new revenue from global tariffs.

Quote from: Lokmar on November 01, 2025, 10:56:27 AMGlobal warning/climate change is an absolute fucking joke as is the idea that anyone in the over regulated USA is destroying the environment. We dont build jack shit anymore so the type of waterway discharge that existed as late as the 1970's is impossible.

Particulate emissions from diesel engines have been reduced 96% in the last 35 years. A cars gasoline engine has been cleaned up so much so that its become difficult to suicide yourself via carbon monoxide in an enclosed garage! You're as likely to kill yourself from oxygen deprivation. Everything sold en masse thats chromed comes from somewhere else and high end chrome such as getting a bumper re-chromed off an old car is expensive and the waste is completely recovered and processed. The biggest pollution problems we have are some landfills and military sites contaminated 50 years ago! The damned body shop I worked at had to have Safe-T-Kleen haul off the used thinner BY LAW even 30 years ago!!!

Have any of you seen a coal fired power plant built in the last 20 years? Theres one at the corner of I-55 and Stevenson Dr in Springfield, IL. Look at that fucking monstrosity on Google Maps! The building I'm referring to is closest to the highway and what you CANT see is its TWICE as tall as the older buildings to the east and all of that is because of the scrubbers! Street view off Stevenson Dr shows exactly WTF I'm talking about.  It doesnt put out pollution which wasnt even a fucking major problem to begin with. I never even see the old plants running anymore and after all this investment in this new state of the art coal fired powerplant, they want to decommission it in the next 10 years!

For some stupid reason, humans in the west are addicted to fatalism. Its like we cant live unless we feel as if we're on the verge of extinction 24/7. What a bunch of stupid fucking lemmings! You think them assholes in India WHO ACTUALLY GET POISONED 24/7 waste their lives like a bunch of mewling fukin Karens? 

I do care a lot about actual pollution. Particularly our oceans. But, almost all of the pollution from the oceans comes from rivers in developing countries.

They not we must do something about it. If they don't we close our borders to their people.

Quote from: Brent on November 01, 2025, 12:12:50 PMThey not we must do something about it. If they don't we close our borders to their people.

The US is one of the worst offenders, if not THE worst offender in producing greenhouse gases that are accelerating climate change and global warming.

Quote from: DKG on November 01, 2025, 05:55:45 AMI live in Canada, but the control freakishness is part and parcel of their motivation like it is with the US Dems.

It's interesting you mention climate change. Few countries have gone as far as Canada has in punishing it's population into reducing our miniscule emissions. From two carbon taxes, to blocking development of our most lucrative resources to dictating what vehicles we can purchase to farm practices. We have deliberately lowered living standards for most Canadians while rewarding an already rich few and it has not moved the climate needle one centimetre.

Interestingly the US saw it's biggest drop in emissions under the first Trump administration because of the widespread use of fracking.

As for the deficit, the congress not the senate controls spending. Something worth noting though is that tariffs are helping to lower monthly deficits. I was not a fan of tariffs, but any windfall from it must be applied to the deficit first.

Wasn't it you who posted that the gap in GDP per capita between Canada and the States is now $35,000 per year? I remember about twelve years ago we were almost at par with the States.

That huge gap is caused by climate alarmist baloney and outragelously high levels of unskilled immigrants.

Quote from: Brent on November 01, 2025, 12:08:35 PMI thought the super rich progressives who have been telling us that climate change is an existential threat while they travel the world in private planes and build mansions beside oceans have finally admitted it is not as much of a threat to mankind as they told us. Maybe they have made enough money milking that apocalyptic threat or maybe they see a new opportunity in something else. Maybe it is AI.

I thought the Trump administration has found new savings with DOGE cuts and new revenue from global tariffs.

Yup, it''s now an 'issue' but no longer an existential threat for some reason.

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 12:14:18 PMThe US is one of the worst offenders, if not THE worst offender in producing greenhouse gases that are accelerating climate change and global warming.

The States has also reduced it's greenhouse emissions more than any other developed country. But, that is irrelevant when eighty percent of new emissions are in the developing world.

I am not that concerned about rising C02. We will adapt to that and maybe even thrive because it makes the planet greener.

My main environmental worry is real pollution in the oceans. Canada, the States, Europe, Japan, Australia are not causing the rising pollution in our oceans. It is entirely developing countries.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on November 01, 2025, 12:18:14 PMYup, it''s now an 'issue' but no longer an existential threat for some reason.

I think it always was just a problem and never an existential threat. If it was hypocrites like Obama and Gates would not have such massive carbon footprints.

Quote from: Brent on November 01, 2025, 12:20:24 PMMy main environmental worry is real pollution in the oceans. Canada, the States, Europe, Japan, Australia are not causing the rising pollution in our oceans. It is entirely developing countries.

You're not wrong. It's disgusting what's going on in some of those countries. They dump crap everywhere.

Here's one article that shows the US is a top contributer to climate change and global warming.

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/us/countries-climate-change-emissions-cop28/

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 12:14:18 PMThe US is one of the worst offenders, if not THE worst offender in producing greenhouse gases that are accelerating climate change and global warming.

NOT EVEN CLOSE! Your accusation is a Defcon Karen Level 1 propagandist lie.

India is #1 by far followed by China as #2. I shared several data sheets/websites here a few months back.

china has cleaned up its air some but neither country has done what the ENTIRE west has done to eliminate emissions including NOx, particulates, CO2 which isnt even a pollutant ITFP, and sulfur.

The air in L.A. in the 70's would burn my eyes so fucking bad, I literally had tears streaming down my face the entire time I was in the city. The air in L.A. by 2001/2002 was so pristine, it didnt bother me at all.

Quote from: Brent on November 01, 2025, 12:12:50 PMI do care a lot about actual pollution. Particularly our oceans. But, almost all of the pollution from the oceans comes from rivers in developing countries.

They not we must do something about it. If they don't we close our borders to their people.

They will do nothing. We need to dial our regulations back to around 2006/2007 levels on everything. We have completely won the war on pollution.

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 04:06:01 AMI know "of" Joe from a handful of posts.

Jo Jo is my boyfriend. We have sex three times a day.