Quote from: wizer on November 02, 2025, 11:26:04 AMI didn't come back here to argue with idiots. I do enough of that elsewhere. But if I change my mind I'll get back to you.

Thanks for coming back! I actually love hearing from climate retards like you. I hope you live another 20 years so you can tell me the earf is gonna die 2 or 3 more times!

Echo chambers are boring.

Quote from: wizer on November 02, 2025, 03:56:10 AMClimate change and the devastating effects of global warming are poised to be a planetary disaster within our lifetimes and becomes more difficult to prevent with each passing day. Under the current administration the US has gone backwards in implementing policy to slow or reverse the trend.

If you believe a disaster is coming and will be caused by rising C02 emissions how much have you reduced your own emissions?

Quote from: Lokmar on November 02, 2025, 11:17:11 AMI thank God for Trump! I'm very hopeful that Lee Zelden rolls standards back to 2006. The terd wurld can catch up to our standards over the next 50 years.

Climate hysteria clowns constantly tell me we need to set the example. Sounds like the same people who said similar things about bringing china into the world economy where we stayed bent over for them while they stayed communist. Speaking of, that caused a LOT of the pollution you people cry about. Good job!

How did intelligent people let themselves be fooled into believing C02 is a pollutant that will destroy the planet and eight million metric tonnes of plastics annually and chemical runoff from third world rivers into our oceans is not.

Quote from: wizer on November 02, 2025, 11:26:04 AMI didn't come back here to argue with idiots. I do enough of that elsewhere. But if I change my mind I'll get back to you.

Okay, see you tomorrow Joe 

Quote from: Brent on November 02, 2025, 11:43:16 AMHow did intelligent people let themselves be fooled into believing C02 is a pollutant that will destroy the planet and eight million metric tonnes of plastics annually and chemical runoff from third world rivers into our oceans is not.

People cant implement a plan and discontinue it when it reaches its goal. Its really that simple. I like to use gas and diesel emissions systems as examples because I am very very familiar with them and I've personally seen the process go from constructive to destructive.

There was in fact an actual pollution problem from gas and diesel engines that existed for 100 years. We solved it by 2006/2007. The question them became "what do we do now that we've reduced the emissions we worked on by over 90%?". The answer was "Go after the remaining 10% no matter the cost!" We did that too BTW and the tech necessary to do that caused MORE CO2 AND requires MORE fossil fuel be expended.

environMENTALists conveniently ignore this tho.

Quote from: Brent on November 02, 2025, 11:43:16 AMHow did intelligent people let themselves be fooled into believing C02 is a pollutant that will destroy the planet and eight million metric tonnes of plastics annually and chemical runoff from third world rivers into our oceans is not.

Here is the situation as I see it. Is there truth to the consequence of such emissions? Maybe, maybe not, but my spin the the matter does not directly attack the truthfulness of the statement. The way I look at is the demand for energy by mankind as a whole is not going to decrease if nations such as the U.S deprive ourselves of the ability to tap into such resources. The demand will simply be met elsewhere, and what does elsewhere actually mean? Does it mean that India closes said gap in energy production at 5 maybe 10 times the negative consequence?

in such a scenario I see us doing more harm then good by reducing our own ability to produce the output the world needs. Sure our way merely delays the inevitable in such a context. I totally get that, but the buying of additional time does bring with it a level of positivity that I cannot help but say we should leverage

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 01:14:01 PMWith other people I presume.

Oh heavens no. Jo Jo and I are in a monogamous relationship.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 02, 2025, 01:29:08 PMif nations such as the U.S deprive ourselves of the ability to tap into such resources. The demand will simply be met elsewhere, and what does elsewhere actually mean? 

The few available options that are environmentally friendly is the production of energy via nuclear energy, solar and wind power.

Sooner or later the oil's going to run out anyway. 

Quote from: Brent on November 02, 2025, 11:43:16 AMHow did intelligent people let themselves be fooled into believing C02 is a pollutant that will destroy the planet and eight million metric tonnes of plastics annually and chemical runoff from third world rivers into our oceans is not.

The two completely unrelated problems do not somehow negative the devastating impact of the other.

C02 is not a pollutant so much as a "heat trapping blanket" which is a layman's term for the heat trapping effect that massive amounts of artificially produced C02 have on the atmosphere.

Quote from: Brent on November 02, 2025, 11:38:20 AMIf you believe a disaster is coming and will be caused by rising C02 emissions how much have you reduced your own emissions?

I don't give a fuck if the earth collapses on itself as long as it lasts until I take my last breath.

Quote from: DKG on November 02, 2025, 10:03:11 AMIf more plants and trees are carbon sinks and higher C02 levels make the world more green and lush the so called C02 problem solves itself.

Tell that to all the dead coral.

Quote from: wizer on Today at 02:59:49 AMTell that to all the dead coral.

In 2022, the Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS) reported the highest levels of coral cover across two-thirds of the Great Barrier Reef (GBR) in over 36 years.

Quote from: DKG on Today at 07:21:48 AMIn 2022, the Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS) reported the highest levels of coral cover across two-thirds of the Great Barrier Reef (GBR) in over 36 years.

The Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS) reported that two-thirds of the Great Barrier Reef (GBR) has seen the highest levels of coral cover in over 36 years. This recovery is primarily due to the growth of fast-growing Acropora corals, which have been dominant in the northern and central regions of the reef. However, the southern section has experienced a decline in coral cover due to ongoing outbreaks of crown-of-thorns starfish. Despite this, the reef demonstrates resilience and the ability to recover from disturbances, but scientists warn that climate change poses increasing risks to its long-term health

Quote from: DKG on Today at 07:21:48 AMIn 2022, the Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS) reported the highest levels of coral cover across two-thirds of the Great Barrier Reef (GBR) in over 36 years.

They grow they recede. I was reading the Antarctica has gained back 200 tons of ice recently after losing ice for years.

The point here is that we have real environmental problems like the filth and contamination in our oceans coming from third world cesspools. We are wasting too much time and money on C02 emissions.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on November 01, 2025, 12:18:14 PMYup, it''s now an 'issue' but no longer an existential threat for some reason.

Bill Gates needs moar power for the A.I. to construct his afterlife armor suit so when he croaks his brain will transferred over & continue for generations.  Like Windows operating system.