Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 12, 2026, 08:02:19 PMNo of course not. But in many instances he did assure them if they bankrupted themselves putting his kids through college they would become US citizens... that has happened more times than anyone is willing to admit to

it's all a racket -- the judges, the attorneys, the politicians that benefit -- they are all eating off the same plate of misery and despair that continue to foster and fuel their greed.

and what I am advocating for is to strip ALL OF THEM of such rich rewards at the expense of others.

Because the real victims in this travesty of justice? The decent morally upright migrants who happen to be illegal and the average US citizen

Happen to be illegal? They will always be crims until they serve their time and atone for their criminality.

Don't make excuses for crims.

Quote from: Dove on January 12, 2026, 02:26:03 PMI voted for democrats up until Obama.

 When I vote I pay attention. I regretted my Obama vote in 2008 within his first term.

 And when I rightfully criticized the terrible shit he was doing, and his gross smugness....other Obama voters would dog pile me.

 At first it shocked me, I wasnt prepared for that. I was niave and believed people actually cared. I learned fast it was about power and control.

 And ive been a right wing extremist ever since.

 Im used to not having the popular opinion in the room and ill stand on my convictions even at the threat of harm. Im not someone to be bullied. Especially when it comes to the welfare and prosperity and dignity of the USA.

 All this marxist garbage started a long time ago and its really come into itself now. It's a horrifying shame.

 I notice all the programming now. All the movies that painted the USA as the bad guys. Dances with Wolves. Full Metal jackassasset. The list is long. American History X where they took very normal republican stances on immigration and made it into nazi beliefs blatantly. Have you seen that film? Omg.

 Shows. News. Universities. People have been indoctrinated into hating their own country.


 I saw a video on Iran, and in the comments there were American woman saying "You guys don't want the US authoritarian government "helping" you" and openly stating that "we are just as oppressed". They took a comment section on a video talking about Iranians fighting for basic freedoms...and made it about themselves and how oppressed they are here in the USA.

 And Iranians who came here were telling them "you dont know how great you have it. You have everything here. Youre ungrateful. This is the best country in the world" and these brainwashed bitches doubled down.

 It was so embarrassing, and rage inducing. I had to put my phone down. How fucking spoiled, self absorbed and narcissistic can someone be...to shameless claim that here in the US we are "just as oppressed" and the people fighting in Iran? The Persian people.

 It made me almost vomit. That's how stupid and spoiled they are. No empathy. No shame. No humility. No gratitude. They'll drive us all off a cliff before they realize how destructive and stupid they are.

 Its embarrassing to me, as an American woman. I knew it was bad but lately its even worse than I thought it was.

 I have tried for many years to have civil discourse with them but they dont want civil discourse. They dont care. They just hate us. They'd rather see us dead than have any sort of peace.

 You'd think middle aged women would want a safer and more prosperous country for their children to raise their grandchildren in. Thats what I want. I want my daughters to be able to have all the opportunities being American gives them and to be able to raise their own families in a safe and prosperous country that preserves their liberties and constitutional rights.

 That shouldnt be some wild extremist desire to have but alas.

I would've voted for Obama over McCain. I thought Obama would be the end of racialized politics. Boy, was I wrong. He fanned the flames and embers of racial division.

Quote from: Shen Li on January 12, 2026, 11:36:12 PMI would've voted for Obama over McCain. I thought Obama would be the end of racialized politics. Boy, was I wrong. He fanned the flames and embers of racial division.

 I was spitting on Obama by 2012. That was the only election I didnt vote in at all since I became a voting citizen.

 It hurt too. Obama ushered in racailized politics.

 I hadnt quite yet entered into republican politics quite yet at that time but if I could do it over, id have voted McCain. Not that he moved me or that im only board with everything he would have done....but getting Obama out would have been worth it.

 I was eyeballing Ted Cruise in 2016 until I saw Trump mailing the press, calling out Republican donors, telling Hillary she would be in jail. Talking about defeating Isis. How he campaigns is incredible. Trump will go to blue districts on his own dime just to talk to the people.

 So I was all in for Trump early on lol.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 12, 2026, 07:19:41 PMI touched on this point before. If you have an illegal that has been here for 15-20+ years, you have to ask yourself WHY they have been here that long and taken no steps to naturalize.

I understand your point about the optics of removing people that have been here for decades and woven themselves in to the fabric of our local communities ... but again, you have to ask yourselves why they have been here so long and remained illegal.

Clearly there is some kind of incentive structure that drives this phenomenon that has to be unravelled and corrected. Whether it's scamming from our social safety net programs, free health care at the nearest emergency room, free education for their kids or simply dodging taxation, there is obviously some benefit that long term illegals are taking advantage of by remaining illegal.

These incentives must be identified and removed.  In the meantime, yes the optics will look bad when Juan the friendly gardener gets swept up in an ICE raid or the Tamale Lady who has sold tamales on the same street corner for 20 years gets deported, but by now I'm quite sure these kinds of people have all heard that if they self-deport they can get on the list to return legally - and even get a few grand to help them through.

Reggie a lot of these particular people are actually paying taxes.

They are using false SSNs somehow and PAYING taxes. They will never quality for any benefits but they are paying in.

These guys are called "leakage" i hear.

They must love this country if they are willing to somehow use a false SSN for the purpose of paying into a system they will never benefit from.

Thats wild to me lol. But its true they are doing that 

Quote from: Dove on Today at 03:35:46 AMReggie a lot of these particular people are actually paying taxes.

They are using false SSNs somehow and PAYING taxes. They will never quality for any benefits but they are paying in.

These guys are called "leakage" i hear.

They must love this country if they are willing to somehow use a false SSN for the purpose of paying into a system they will never benefit from.

Thats wild to me lol. But its true they are doing that

So not only illegally immigrated but identity and financial fraud to boot.

That's a career criminal history.

Chuck out every one of those illegal criminal motherfuckers. No mercy.

Quote from: Frood on Today at 04:50:13 AMSo not only illegally immigrated but identity and financial fraud to boot.

That's a career criminal history.

Chuck out every one of those illegal criminal motherfuckers. No mercy.

 Im not disagreeing its illegal. It's just wild to me that they would do that.

 When people commit fraud...they do it to personally benefit.

 These guys are doing it to....pay taxes? Wtf? Lol!

Quote from: Dove on Today at 05:15:37 AMIm not disagreeing its illegal. It's just wild to me that they would do that.

 When people commit fraud...they do it to personally benefit.

 These guys are doing it to....pay taxes? Wtf? Lol!

The benefit is they can illegally remain in a country with a better economy and society... under the radar.

Quote from: Frood on Today at 06:51:28 AMThe benefit is they can illegally remain in a country with a better economy and society... under the radar.

 I dont understand how fraudulently paying taxes helps that is what i mean.

 They can be just as under the radar not paying taxes at all cant they?  They'd keep more money.

 Or are they using these false SSNs for things like financing cars or homes?  Because that would make more sense to me.

Greg Gutfield rips it!

Quote from: Dove on Today at 07:26:36 AMI dont understand how fraudulently paying taxes helps that is what i mean.

 They can be just as under the radar not paying taxes at all cant they?  They'd keep more money.

 Or are they using these false SSNs for things like financing cars or homes?  Because that would make more sense to me.

They do that too. They consider the income tax as the cost of remaining illegal... a write off. I believe Trump just ended a Biden/Obama rule that banks must loan to illegals..

https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2026/01/12/trump-cancels-biden-rules-forcing-banks-to-give-loans-to-illegals/

Quote from: Frood on Today at 04:50:13 AMSo not only illegally immigrated but identity and financial fraud to boot.

That's a career criminal history.

Chuck out every one of those illegal criminal motherfuckers. No mercy.

I believe Biggie would agree that hustlers like them must go. He was referring to ones working illegally on construction sites for example.

Tim Walz has just walked himself into the heart of a political storm he never expected. Back in 2020, under the guise of "police reform," Walz signed into law a bill that gave officers the explicit right to use deadly force on a vehicle accelerating toward them, without needing the car to physically make contact first.

It's a law that's now playing a huge role in the current media circus surrounding the Renee Good shooting — but here's the twist: Walz himself wrote the law that made this possible.


A 2020 Minnesota law came to light after a federal agent shot a woman who tried to drive away from a stop.

The law, signed by Gov. Tim Walz, says if a car moves toward a cop and they think it's a real threat, they don't have to wait to get hit.

All they need is to feel like it's a real threat. No impact required.

Tragic as it was, it's not hard to see why Trump supporters are pointing out the irony.
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2010207718032781635?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2010207718032781635%7Ctwgr%5E82e1460c631b77c21935e9ade7564942e6be8554%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgazetteller.com%2Fexposed-tim-walz-signed-the-2020-law-that-let-officers-shoot-cars-moving-toward-them-the-same-deadly-force-law-that-made-the-renee-good-shooting-100-legal-and-justified%2F

Quote from: Frood on Today at 09:23:39 AMThey do that too. They consider the income tax as the cost of remaining illegal... a write off. I believe Trump just ended a Biden/Obama rule that banks must loan to illegals..

https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2026/01/12/trump-cancels-biden-rules-forcing-banks-to-give-loans-to-illegals/

you have to wonder how those scumbags got a law like that to pass in the first place.

Forcing a bank to lend to people who are in the act of committing a crime is absurd and is part of the risk profile a bank NEEDS to evaluate when determining if the candidate is loan worthy

these people truly were on a mission to destroy this country 

Quote from: DKG on Today at 09:35:11 AMTim Walz has just walked himself into the heart of a political storm he never expected. Back in 2020, under the guise of "police reform," Walz signed into law a bill that gave officers the explicit right to use deadly force on a vehicle accelerating toward them, without needing the car to physically make contact first.

It's a law that's now playing a huge role in the current media circus surrounding the Renee Good shooting — but here's the twist: Walz himself wrote the law that made this possible.


A 2020 Minnesota law came to light after a federal agent shot a woman who tried to drive away from a stop.

The law, signed by Gov. Tim Walz, says if a car moves toward a cop and they think it's a real threat, they don't have to wait to get hit.

All they need is to feel like it's a real threat. No impact required.

Tragic as it was, it's not hard to see why Trump supporters are pointing out the irony.
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2010207718032781635?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2010207718032781635%7Ctwgr%5E82e1460c631b77c21935e9ade7564942e6be8554%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgazetteller.com%2Fexposed-tim-walz-signed-the-2020-law-that-let-officers-shoot-cars-moving-toward-them-the-same-deadly-force-law-that-made-the-renee-good-shooting-100-legal-and-justified%2F

Amazing how the left will sink so low so as to say "but she was just fleeing"

so when officers imitate a stop and make it clear a person is being detained it's ok to flee now?

The mixed messages are by design. they want the idiots on tiktok and the other forms of mental poison ravaging our youth to walk away with the idea that fleeing a scene AFTER being told by LEOs to freeze is perfectly acceptable and will not lead to a negative outcome

these people are the worst kinds of societal parasites imaginable

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on Today at 09:40:20 AMAmazing how the left will sink so low so as to say "but she was just fleeing"

so when officers imitate a stop and make it clear a person is being detained it's ok to flee now?

The mixed messages are by design. they want the idiots on tiktok and the other forms of mental poison ravaging our youth to walk away with the idea that fleeing a scene AFTER being told by LEOs to freeze is perfectly acceptable and will not lead to a negative outcome

these people are the worst kinds of societal parasites imaginable

The politicians telling them it is okay are the same ones who passed laws that say the opposite.