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Mr Carney, please resign

Started by Thiel, July 15, 2025, 01:05:36 PM

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Quote from: Herman on April 29, 2026, 05:32:43 PMCanada is set to launch its first-ever sovereign wealth fund, branded the "Canada Strong Fund," according to an announcement from Mark Carney.
At face value, the concept aligns with models seen in other nations. However, a closer examination raises fundamental concerns about how such a fund is being structured.

How Sovereign Wealth Funds Typically Work
Globally, sovereign wealth funds are built on surplus capital, not debt. They are designed to invest excess national revenue for long-term stability and growth.
Examples include:
* Norway — financed by oil and gas profits
* Abu Dhabi — built on energy revenues
* Singapore — driven by sustained trade surpluses
These funds exist because those countries generated more revenue than they spent.
Canada's Fiscal Position
Canada's current fiscal situation presents a different picture:
* Annual deficit: approximately $78 billion
* National debt: roughly $1.2 trillion
* A significant portion of this debt has accumulated over the past decade
This raises a central question: Can a sovereign wealth fund function as intended without surplus capital?

A Different Kind of Fund?
Critics argue that without underlying surplus wealth, the Canada Strong Fund risks becoming something fundamentally different from its international counterparts.
Instead of investing excess revenue, it may rely on borrowed capital, which introduces:
* Increased financial risk
* Higher long-term interest obligations
* Greater exposure to market volatility
In that context, some observers are reframing the initiative less as a traditional sovereign wealth fund and more as a state-managed investment vehicle funded by debt.

The Core Debate
At the heart of the issue is a basic economic principle:
Sovereign wealth funds are built on wealth — not liabilities.
Without surplus revenues, the legitimacy and sustainability of such a fund remain open to debate.

Final Note
Norway's fund — widely considered the global benchmark — was never branded with political language. Its credibility came from its structure, not its name.
The "Canada Strong Fund," by contrast, is already facing scrutiny over whether it represents financial innovation — or financial rebranding.
We have a REAL sovereign wealth fund here in Singapore. The seed money came from our significant trade surpluses many moons ago.

Those elbows up old white Canadian nincompoops that fell for the elbows up scam are certainly dumb enough to believe you can build a sovereign weath fund from borrowed money and unicorn farts.

DKG

Quote from: Herman on April 29, 2026, 05:32:43 PMCanada is set to launch its first-ever sovereign wealth fund, branded the "Canada Strong Fund," according to an announcement from Mark Carney.
At face value, the concept aligns with models seen in other nations. However, a closer examination raises fundamental concerns about how such a fund is being structured.

How Sovereign Wealth Funds Typically Work
Globally, sovereign wealth funds are built on surplus capital, not debt. They are designed to invest excess national revenue for long-term stability and growth.
Examples include:
* Norway — financed by oil and gas profits
* Abu Dhabi — built on energy revenues
* Singapore — driven by sustained trade surpluses
These funds exist because those countries generated more revenue than they spent.
Canada's Fiscal Position
Canada's current fiscal situation presents a different picture:
* Annual deficit: approximately $78 billion
* National debt: roughly $1.2 trillion
* A significant portion of this debt has accumulated over the past decade
This raises a central question: Can a sovereign wealth fund function as intended without surplus capital?

A Different Kind of Fund?
Critics argue that without underlying surplus wealth, the Canada Strong Fund risks becoming something fundamentally different from its international counterparts.
Instead of investing excess revenue, it may rely on borrowed capital, which introduces:
* Increased financial risk
* Higher long-term interest obligations
* Greater exposure to market volatility
In that context, some observers are reframing the initiative less as a traditional sovereign wealth fund and more as a state-managed investment vehicle funded by debt.

The Core Debate
At the heart of the issue is a basic economic principle:
Sovereign wealth funds are built on wealth — not liabilities.
Without surplus revenues, the legitimacy and sustainability of such a fund remain open to debate.

Final Note
Norway's fund — widely considered the global benchmark — was never branded with political language. Its credibility came from its structure, not its name.
The "Canada Strong Fund," by contrast, is already facing scrutiny over whether it represents financial innovation — or financial rebranding.
What Carney will implement is a sovereign debt fund not a sovereign wealth fund. Then he he will move the money from the operating budget to his "capital expenditures" budget which includes his new sovereign debt fund to make it look like he's lowering the deficit. And the worse part of all is that his base will buy it and believe he is a financial genius instead of the crooked bookkeeper that he is.

Herman

Even members of the legacy media aint buying Conman Carney's bullshit sovereign wealth fund.

Is this really a "nation-building investment," or just a new channel for government-backed corporate deals? And if it's the latter... who ends up benefiting?

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