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Religion; What WOULD we do without it.

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#15
August 03, 2015, 03:47:09 AM
Man will seek out a higher deity.  I agree there is a difference between belief of and in God (Yahweh) and religion.  Born agains, say all the time that they are not religious. Morals are universal and a sort of unspoken known. People know right and wrong. Then justifications (human nature) comes in.  I understand you don't believe in God, but this is consistent with the scripture that God has written his laws in the core (heart) of humanity. To show us our evil and draw us to Him. So it can be argued that without God we have no moral equalizer. If broke down the fall of man to you from Genisis, and the curses put upon us... you'd have to agree it's consistent. Whether you believe it's truth, those who do easily make sense of the world and it's happenings. And are at peace.

Bricktop

#16
August 03, 2015, 04:14:29 AM
And yet humans lived for many thousands of years without god, his morals and commandments, and progressed rapidly. Mayans, Babylonians, Khmers...all pre-date Jesus. They had their gods, its true. But their gods demanded sacrifices to be appeased.



Remember, Rome became the most advanced nation on Earth without god.

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#17
August 03, 2015, 04:33:23 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"And yet humans lived for many thousands of years without god, his morals and commandments, and progressed rapidly. Mayans, Babylonians, Khmers...all pre-date Jesus. They had their gods, its true. But their gods demanded sacrifices to be appeased.



Remember, Rome became the most advanced nation on Earth without god.
  Our time line in set BC (before Christ) and AD (year of our Lord).  Worship of Yahweh goes back way longer than Christ. We know this. The old covanant and new.  The earliest writings of the bible are estimated 3500 years old. Judaism was to and did blend right into Christianity, as Christ was the final sacrifice for the reconciliation of all humanity (those who will) to God.  Your definition of advanced has proven to be questionable.  I would be careful using Rome as an example of how good people do without God. The bible says the "other gods" were fallen angels and neplim. Which is also very consistent with ancient history. Throwing babies into fire pits and using young girls as temple prostitutes are not the acts of an advanced society....but as I said, your idea of advancement is questionable. The ancient jews had the Torah(old testament laws), and they were washing their hands under running water, and eating clean food.

Frood

#18
August 03, 2015, 01:20:52 PM
The world would go looney. Religion suits those who need it and manages their behavior just as much as it messes with non-believers.



No religion would be just as bad as too much religion.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

#19
August 03, 2015, 04:50:04 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dove"Only this clearly goes against everything the word teaches. So does the "prosperity gospel".  So when nonreligious people commit crimes what does that mean?  That we blame atheism?  Why don't you guys just place the blame on the human who made the choice?


I think we atheists recognise that.



However, it does demonstrate that religion camouflages some very seriously psychotic people.

I don't know much about religions..



I have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

keeper

#20
August 03, 2015, 05:43:33 PM
"Religion; What WOULD we do without it."



The same thing i do with it, nothing!

Bricktop

#21
August 03, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Mmm...but is that a GOOD nothing, or a BAD nothing?

keeper

#22
August 03, 2015, 10:50:54 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Mmm...but is that a GOOD nothing, or a BAD nothing?


My brothers a Pastor, i have one foot in the door :wink:

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#23
August 04, 2015, 05:14:39 AM
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Mmm...but is that a GOOD nothing, or a BAD nothing?


My brothers a Pastor, i have one foot in the  :wink:

Your brother is a pastor Keeper?



I didn't know that.

Anonymous

#24
August 04, 2015, 07:08:08 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dove"Only this clearly goes against everything the word teaches. So does the "prosperity gospel".  So when nonreligious people commit crimes what does that mean?  That we blame atheism?  Why don't you guys just place the blame on the human who made the choice?



I think we atheists recognise that.



However, it does demonstrate that religion camouflages some very seriously psychotic people.

I don't know much about religions..



I have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
 Amen!

Bricktop

#25
August 04, 2015, 07:09:38 AM
Hallelujah!!

keeper

#26
August 05, 2015, 11:30:52 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Mmm...but is that a GOOD nothing, or a BAD nothing?


My brothers a Pastor, i have one foot in the  :wink:

Your brother is a pastor Keeper?



I didn't know that.


Yup, Preaches at the Pentecostal Church in Edmonton. :43(2):

cc

#27
August 05, 2015, 11:43:03 AM
Wow. You are surrounded  with goodness. There's hope for you  ac_smile
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

keeper

#28
August 05, 2015, 11:54:03 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Wow. You are surrounded  with goodness. There's hope for you  ac_smile


He seems to think so, I used to hate going to his church, he would ALWAYS point out that i was his brother and for the congregation to pray for me,  :oeudC:

cc

#29
August 05, 2015, 11:59:26 AM
Aw, he really loves you



Unlike the rest of us who know better, he thinks you are redeemable  ac_smile
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell
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