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Brexit vote: MP's Reject Withdrawal Deal

Started by Anonymous, January 15, 2019, 05:39:29 PM

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Shit just got real.



https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/15/uk/brexit-vote-theresa-may-gbr-intl/index.html">https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/15/uk/b ... index.html">https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/15/uk/brexit-vote-theresa-may-gbr-intl/index.html

British lawmakers have soundly rejected Theresa May's Brexit deal, in the biggest defeat for any UK government in the modern parliamentary era.



After 200 speeches across eight days of debate, members of the House of Commons ignored the Prime Minister's final pleas to support her plan and threw it out by 432 votes to 202.

The margin of defeat -- greater than the previous record set in 1924 -- means the Prime Minister now faces a deep political crisis with no clear way forward.



The opposition Labour party immediately triggered a vote of no-confidence in May's government, hoping to capitalize on a perilous moment to force a general election. Acknowledging the scale of the defeat, the Prime Minister said she would allow time for the House of Commons to debate the motion on Wednesday.

Corbyn called the defeat "catastrophic" and said a vote of no-confidence would allow the House of Commons to "give its verdict on the sheer incompetence of this government."

But May urged lawmakers to listen to the British citizens who voted to leave the EU. "I ask members on all sides of the house to listen to the British people, who want this issue settled, and to work with the government to do just that," May said.

Anonymous

What happens now?



May now has 24 hours to save her government. If she loses the vote of no-confidence, it makes a general election more likely.

If she survives, however, May said she would follow a two-stage process to break the Brexit impasse. First, she offered cross-party talks with lawmakers as an attempt to try and figure out a way forward. May promised the government would approach those talks in a "constructive" manner.

Then, if a consensus emerges, she would take a revised plan to the European Union.



But there isn't much time: Britain is due to leave the EU on March 29, whether a deal is in place or not. "Every day that passes without this issue being resolved means more uncertainty, more bitterness and more rancor," May said.

It seems likely that May will survive the confidence vote. The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) -- the Northern Irish party that props up May's minority government -- said it would work with the Prime Minister to secure a better deal.

DUP leader Arlene Foster welcomed Tuesday's vote, saying the UK parliament had "acted in the best interests of the entire United Kingdom."

Foster added: "Whilst some may wish to use this defeat to boost their political ambitions, we will give the government the space to set out a plan to secure a better deal."

Anonymous

European response



Moments after the vote, European Council President Donald Tusk demanded the UK "clarify its intentions" on its plan "as soon as possible."

In a statement, Tusk said: "We will continue our preparations for all outcomes, including a no-deal scenario. The risk of a disorderly exit has increased with this vote and, while we do not want this to happen, we will be prepared for it."

In a tweet, Tusk also pointed out that the UK could unilaterally withdraw its notification to leave the EU: "If a deal is impossible, and no one wants no deal, then who will finally have the courage to say what the only positive solution is?"



President of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, also warned of the ticking clock. "I take note with regret of the outcome of the vote in the House of Commons this evening. I urge the UK to clarify its intentions as soon as possible. Time is almost up," Juncker wrote.

Anonymous

Will May's government fall and trigger an election?

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"Will May's government fall and trigger an election?

I don't think her government will fall just yet.

Bricktop

No, she will stay. The vote of no confidence will be defeated along party lines.



Its a NO DEAL separation now, as it always should have been.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"No, she will stay. The vote of no confidence will be defeated along party lines.



Its a NO DEAL separation now, as it always should have been.

I thought her party MP's wanted her gone. But, they would be gone too.

Gaon

Quote from: "Bricktop"No, she will stay. The vote of no confidence will be defeated along party lines.



Its a NO DEAL separation now, as it always should have been.

Wasn't the deal Theresa May proposed basically undoing a real Brexit?
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Bricktop

May was never a believer in Brexit, so she attempted to do a deal with the EU that created a Brexit that wasn't a Brexit.



Specifically, no hard border with the Irish Republic. This was tantamount to leaving the back door open while you lock all the other doors and windows. Parliament would have none of it.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"May was never a believer in Brexit, so she attempted to do a deal with the EU that created a Brexit that wasn't a Brexit.



Specifically, no hard border with the Irish Republic. This was tantamount to leaving the back door open while you lock all the other doors and windows. Parliament would have none of it.

I did hear the Northern Ireland border with the Irish Republic.was a problem.

cc

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/british-pm-theresa-may-survives-no-confidence-vote-day-after-major-brexit-defeat">UPDATE TODAY British PM hangs on in razor-thin 'no-confidence' vote following Brexit debacle



British Prime Minister Theresa May's government narrowly survived a vote of no-confidence in Parliament Wednesday as her Conservative Party stuck together to push back an effort to oust the government -- despite May's colossal Brexit defeat a day earlier.



The House of Commons voted 325-306 in favor of the government and against the motion, as Conservative MPs and coalition allies The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) stood together and fended off Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn's push for an eventual general election.



..... And yes, we will also continue to work to deliver on the solemn promise we made to the people of this country to deliver on the result of the referendum and leave the European Union."



[Good luck UK]
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"https://www.foxnews.com/politics/british-pm-theresa-may-survives-no-confidence-vote-day-after-major-brexit-defeat">UPDATE TODAY British PM hangs on in razor-thin 'no-confidence' vote following Brexit debacle



British Prime Minister Theresa May's government narrowly survived a vote of no-confidence in Parliament Wednesday as her Conservative Party stuck together to push back an effort to oust the government -- despite May's colossal Brexit defeat a day earlier.



The House of Commons voted 325-306 in favor of the government and against the motion, as Conservative MPs and coalition allies The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) stood together and fended off Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn's push for an eventual general election.



..... And yes, we will also continue to work to deliver on the solemn promise we made to the people of this country to deliver on the result of the referendum and leave the European Union."



[Good luck UK]

Do you think leaving the EU is preferable cc?

cc

#12
I have thot for over a decade leaving was the UK's only chance to survive



Actually, it's too late now anyhow. Most of the damage cannot be undone
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"I have thot for over a decade leaving was the UK's only chance to survive

I should have said is leaving the EU without a deal is preferable?

Bricktop

Yes.



A deal is essentially half a Brexit...it will involve Europe still maintaining some level of influence over the sovereignty of the UK.