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April is Confederate History Month

Started by Blazor, April 14, 2020, 11:59:42 AM

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Thiel

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Blazor

"The fact that one army was fighting for union and the other for disunion is a political expression; the actual fact on the battlefield, in the face of cannon and musket, was that the Federal troops came as invaders and the Southern troops stood as defenders of their homes, and further than this we need not go."



~General Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard, CSA
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Blazor



"If they (the North) prevail, the whole character of the Government will be changed, and instead of a federal republic, the common agent of sovereign and independent States, we shall have a central despotism, with the notion of States forever abolished, deriving its powers from the will, and shaping its policy according to the wishes, of a numerical majority of the people; we shall have, in other words, a supreme, irresponsible democracy. The Government does not now recognize itself as an ordinance of God, and when all the checks and balances of the Constitution are gone, we may easily figure to ourselves the career and the destiny of this godless monster of democratic absolutism. The progress of regulated liberty on this continent will be arrested, anarchy will soon succeed, and the end will be a military despotism, which preserves order by the sacrifice of the last vestige of liberty.



They are now fighting the battle of despotism. They have put their Constitution under their feet; they have annulled its most sacred provisions; The future fortunes of our children, and of this continent, would then be determined by a tyranny which has no parallel in history."



— Dr. James Henly Thornwell of South Carolina, in "Our Danger and our Duty", 1862
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cw_

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Anonymous

Is it Confederate history month again already. I don't have any chicken fried in lard with pecan pie for dessert if any of my Southern friends drop over.

Anonymous

I have no problem with teaching an objective view of the American Civil War. I don't have a dog in this fight though.

Blazor

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book given to me by a friend with the online nic 'Jeb Stuart'.


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I got most my knowledge from an old black dude, H.K. Edgerton.
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Blazor

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Is it Confederate history month again already. I don't have any chicken fried in lard with pecan pie for dessert if any of my Southern friends drop over.


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I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Blazor

Major William Simpson Dunlop, 12th South Carolina Infantry, writing of the Confederate soldier --



"They fought for principle and not for pay -- for home rule, local self government, constitutional liberty—against aggression, paternalism and Federal domination. And while their cause went down under the "arbitrament of the sword," no court of justice or equity has ever adjudicated against their claims. They were grand soldiers, and they were right."
I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Frood

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Major William Simpson Dunlop, 12th South Carolina Infantry, writing of the Confederate soldier --



"They fought for principle and not for pay -- for home rule, local self government, constitutional liberty—against aggression, paternalism and Federal domination. And while their cause went down under the "arbitrament of the sword," no court of justice or equity has ever adjudicated against their claims. They were grand soldiers, and they were right."





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Blazor

Wade Hampton -- Warrenton, Virginia June 23, 1883



"When our Divine Master perished on the cross, did the doctrines for which he died perish with him? We believe we have truth on our side; let us then assert and maintain our faith, and God will in His own good time make it manifest that we were right. If we were wrong in our struggle, then was the Declaration of Independence in '76 a terrible mistake, and the revolution to which it led a palpable crime; Washington should be stigmatised as traitor, and Benedict Arnold canonised as patriot. If the principles which justified the first revolution were true in 1776, they were no less true in that of 1861. The success of the former can add not one jot or tittle to the abstract truth of the principles which gave it birth, nor can the failure of the latter destroy one particle of those ever-living principles. If Washington was a patriot, Lee cannot have been a rebel; if the grand enunciation of the truths of the Declaration of Independence made Jefferson immortal, the observance of them cannot make Davis a traitor."
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Blazor

To the dispatch from the War Department, Gov. LETCHER made this reply:



EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT.RICHMOND, Va., April 16, 1861.

HON. SIMON CAMERON, Secretary of War:



SIR: I received your telegram of the 15th, the genuineness of which I doubted. Since that time (have received your communication, mailed the same day, in which I am requested to detach from the militia of the State of Virginia "the quota designated in a table," which you append, "to serve as infantry or riflemen for the period of three months, unless sooner discharged."



In reply to this communication, I have only to say that the militia of Virginia will not be furnished to the powers at Washington for any such use or purpose as they have in view. Your object is to subjugate the Southern States, and a requisition made upon me for such an object -- an object, in my judgment, not within the purview of the Constitution or the act of 1795 -- will not be complied with. You have chosen to inaugurate civil war, and having done so, we will meet it in a spirit as determined as the Administration has exhibited towards the South. Respectfully
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Thiel

Quote from: Blazor post_id=446759 time=1649878897 user_id=2221
Major William Simpson Dunlop, 12th South Carolina Infantry, writing of the Confederate soldier --



"They fought for principle and not for pay -- for home rule, local self government, constitutional liberty—against aggression, paternalism and Federal domination. And while their cause went down under the "arbitrament of the sword," no court of justice or equity has ever adjudicated against their claims. They were grand soldiers, and they were right."


That's typical talk from a losing side.
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Blazor

Quote from: Thiel post_id=446934 time=1650048380 user_id=1688
Quote from: Blazor post_id=446759 time=1649878897 user_id=2221
Major William Simpson Dunlop, 12th South Carolina Infantry, writing of the Confederate soldier --



"They fought for principle and not for pay -- for home rule, local self government, constitutional liberty—against aggression, paternalism and Federal domination. And while their cause went down under the "arbitrament of the sword," no court of justice or equity has ever adjudicated against their claims. They were grand soldiers, and they were right."


That's typical talk from a losing side.


But Thiel, they fought for the same their forefathers did, less than 100 years prior. Thats why a lot of Southern soldiers wore Revolutionary War period clothing that their kin had wore.



Heck, George Washington is in the seal.....





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I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Anonymous

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Quote from: Thiel post_id=446934 time=1650048380 user_id=1688
Quote from: Blazor post_id=446759 time=1649878897 user_id=2221
Major William Simpson Dunlop, 12th South Carolina Infantry, writing of the Confederate soldier --



"They fought for principle and not for pay -- for home rule, local self government, constitutional liberty—against aggression, paternalism and Federal domination. And while their cause went down under the "arbitrament of the sword," no court of justice or equity has ever adjudicated against their claims. They were grand soldiers, and they were right."


That's typical talk from a losing side.


But Thiel, they fought for the same their forefathers did, less than 100 years prior. Thats why a lot of Southern soldiers wore Revolutionary War period clothing that their kin had wore.



Heck, George Washington is in the seal.....





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I get what he's saying. Defeated army brass usually say the same thing. I don't think he is picking on Confederate officers in particular.