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We achieved our goal with the lockdowns

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Vancouver

[size=150]Over here the British Columbia of Canada. [/size]



Province lays out COVID-19 reopening plans, prioritizes rebooting health-care system and some businesses



The highlights:



- Gatherings of 2-6 people permitted in time for long weekend.

- Retail stores, hair salons, child care, restaurants, libraries and museums could reopen soon.

- Elective surgeries, dental services and physiotherapy are priorities to resume in mid-May.

- Provincial parks expected to open for day use on May 14.

- Overnight camping could be allowed in June.

- Hotels, movie theatres and the film industry might reopen in the summer.

- Schools expected to be open to most students in September.

- All reopenings will depend on detailed plans to avoid transmission of COVID-19.

- Nightclubs, bars and casinos will not reopen anytime soon.

- The ban on gatherings of more than 50 people remains in place.



Small dinner parties, backyard barbecues and hugs with family are set to return to B.C., just in time for the Victoria Day long weekend, while haircuts, elective surgeries and dentist appointments might be available again within weeks.



The provincial government announced its plans Wednesday for a gradual return to normal life in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic.



During a technical briefing with reporters that was closed to the public, B.C. officials told reporters that beginning next weekend, gatherings with two to six guests are OK, as long as there's a strict understanding that no one will socialize if they have any symptoms of COVID-19, including coughing and sneezing. Provincial parks will be open for day use as of May 14.



Even long-verboten signs of affection like hugging extended family members and close friends will be acceptable, as long as the recipient isn't vulnerable to serious illness. In all cases where people are opening up their social circles and renewing physical contact, Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry says it's important to consider who someone else may be interacting with and how that might affect the risk of transmission.



The goal of B.C.'s reopening plan, according to public health officials, is to allow for a return to about 60 per cent of normal interactions, without causing a surge in infections.



"It won't be the flipping of a switch. We'll be proceeding carefully bit by bit, one step at a time," Premier John Horgan said.



"If we lose this discipline, everything we've worked towards will be lost."
Time is malleable

cc

^^^ Ya. Watched our sweet Bonnie Henry explain in detail.



Our, BC,s,  situation (in effect numbers) are the best I can find anywhere. Whatever the reason, BC is doing it well and is opening slowly.

Let's keep and eye on things and hope it is reasonably successful .. and does not simply undo all that we did right in the beginning and put us in the place the rest of the world is in

I'm cautiously optimistic .. So far Bonnie & Co have beat the world






Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"We got killer hornets now...Jumanji is just getting started....

I would rather get infected by the coronavirus than get stung by two or three of them.

As you likely know, they first appeared in our area



I captured and have 3 in a jar. Do you want me to airmail them to you overnight?



 ac_biggrin
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

The West coast limiting the number of infections is all fine and good. But, how many people did they kill by cancelling surgeries and deliberately putting people out of work. It is all a trade off and more infections does not necessarily mean fewer deaths and the Swedish approach does not necessarily mean fewer deaths because surgeries are not postponed and unemployed people are not killing themselves.



There will be a second wave until we get a consistent treatment or vaccine. We gonna delay surgeries again and keep people on poverty benefits. That aint winning. I do not have a solution, I am just pointing out that what BC has done is hardly anything to celebrate.

Anonymous

Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
I have a feeling this was a pyhrric victory.

cc

It is. All are. No matter what one does there are no outright victories in this whole thing ... just different and highly variable shades of loss



I really don't know exactly why we did so good so far. To my knowledge, we did little if anything different than others. Maybe more discipline? Dunno.



I expect our numbers to take off very rapidly. They will be keeping a close eye on hospital beds



Our Care Home situation is excellent at moment .. Discipline over staff has been very good ... but I expect the results of that will dilute  once we open things up.



It will be nice to see things moving so long as we can keep them moving
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

The numbers are low in Manitoba. But, with our huge Nativepopulation that does not practice social distancing. That could and probably change quickly.

Anonymous

The whole point of these idiotic destructive lock downs was not to overwhelm the hospitals. It never happened. End this madness now while we still have an economy.


QuoteFlorida hospitals not overwhelmed, ready to resume elective procedures Monday

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/05/03/desanits-florida-hospitals-not-overwhelmed-ready-to-resume-elective-procedures-starting-monday/">https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/202 ... ng-monday/">https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/05/03/desanits-florida-hospitals-not-overwhelmed-ready-to-resume-elective-procedures-starting-monday/


QuoteIowa's health care system is not overwhelmed. Why is our economy still closed?

We are no longer flattening the curve; we are flattening our state and nation.

https://www.thegazette.com/subject/opinion/guest-columnist/iowas-health-care-system-is-not-overwhelmed-why-is-our-economy-still-closed-20200505">https://www.thegazette.com/subject/opin ... d-20200505">https://www.thegazette.com/subject/opinion/guest-columnist/iowas-health-care-system-is-not-overwhelmed-why-is-our-economy-still-closed-20200505

Anonymous

I agree, it's gone on too long..



The harm outweighs the good.

Anonymous

Our provincial government is now appearing to back off on opening restaurants, dental services and hair salons on Thursday..



There is nothing conformed yet, but Premier Kenney and our public health chief are giving that indication.

 :sad:

Anonymous

I feel like throwing my clubs in my Jetta and heading out West to Saskatchewan to golf. Still no date to reopen courses in Ontario.

Anonymous

They are forecasting 24 here in the Peg on Sunday. I will book off that day. My wife and I will ride our bikes to Forks and have a meal on a restaurant patio.

Vancouver

Quote from: "cc"It is. All are. No matter what one does there are no outright victories in this whole thing ... just different and highly variable shades of loss



I really don't know exactly why we did so good so far. To my knowledge, we did little if anything different than others. Maybe more discipline? Dunno.



I expect our numbers to take off very rapidly. They will be keeping a close eye on hospital beds



Our Care Home situation is excellent at moment .. Discipline over staff has been very good ... but I expect the results of that will dilute  once we open things up.



It will be nice to see things moving so long as we can keep them moving
Here in BC we will rise above all and pave the way to a new and better future. Only 7 new confirmed cases and 1 new death yesterday. Starting this long weekend we can have social gatherings of up to 6 people. I can't believe Alberta allowed gatherings of up to 15 people this whole time. We BCers emerge to a new beginning.
Time is malleable

Anonymous

#42
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "cc"It is. All are. No matter what one does there are no outright victories in this whole thing ... just different and highly variable shades of loss



I really don't know exactly why we did so good so far. To my knowledge, we did little if anything different than others. Maybe more discipline? Dunno.



I expect our numbers to take off very rapidly. They will be keeping a close eye on hospital beds



Our Care Home situation is excellent at moment .. Discipline over staff has been very good ... but I expect the results of that will dilute  once we open things up.



It will be nice to see things moving so long as we can keep them moving
Here in BC we will rise above all and pave the way to a new and better future. Only 7 new confirmed cases and 1 new death yesterday. Starting this long weekend we can have social gatherings of up to 6 people. I can't believe Alberta allowed gatherings of up to 15 people this whole time. We BCers emerge to a new beginning.

What difference does gatherings of fifteen or six make?



People are going to ignore government rules anyway..



People are social creatures and young people don't care what rules the government makes about what they do in their own homes..



Oh, and Alberta is testing far more people than BC....your real rate of infection is far higher than what your government says it is.

Anonymous

Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "cc"It is. All are. No matter what one does there are no outright victories in this whole thing ... just different and highly variable shades of loss



I really don't know exactly why we did so good so far. To my knowledge, we did little if anything different than others. Maybe more discipline? Dunno.



I expect our numbers to take off very rapidly. They will be keeping a close eye on hospital beds



Our Care Home situation is excellent at moment .. Discipline over staff has been very good ... but I expect the results of that will dilute  once we open things up.



It will be nice to see things moving so long as we can keep them moving
Here in BC we will rise above all and pave the way to a new and better future. Only 7 new confirmed cases and 1 new death yesterday. Starting this long weekend we can have social gatherings of up to 6 people. I can't believe Alberta allowed gatherings of up to 15 people this whole time. We BCers emerge to a new beginning.

You destroyed your economy, you cancelled surgeries causing deaths and you added massive amounts of debt. History will decide if these lock down were effective or a disaster. But, let's not pretend they don't serious consequences.



And by they way, Quebec did not allow any gatherings and they have over fifty per cent of the coronavirus cases in Canada.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "cc"It is. All are. No matter what one does there are no outright victories in this whole thing ... just different and highly variable shades of loss



I really don't know exactly why we did so good so far. To my knowledge, we did little if anything different than others. Maybe more discipline? Dunno.



I expect our numbers to take off very rapidly. They will be keeping a close eye on hospital beds



Our Care Home situation is excellent at moment .. Discipline over staff has been very good ... but I expect the results of that will dilute  once we open things up.



It will be nice to see things moving so long as we can keep them moving
Here in BC we will rise above all and pave the way to a new and better future. Only 7 new confirmed cases and 1 new death yesterday. Starting this long weekend we can have social gatherings of up to 6 people. I can't believe Alberta allowed gatherings of up to 15 people this whole time. We BCers emerge to a new beginning.

You destroyed your economy, you cancelled surgeries causing deaths and you added massive amounts of debt. History will decide if these lock down were effective or a disaster. But, let's not pretend they don't serious consequences.



And by they way, Quebec did not allow any gatherings and they have over fifty per cent of the coronavirus cases in Canada.

The rationale for lock downs was not to overwhelm hospitals..



That has not happened anywhere in Canada, including hard hit Montreal..



We have flattened the curve, but continuation of this madness is flattening the economy.