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Started by Anonymous, May 30, 2020, 02:00:28 PM

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I don't get that. Here, no people with virus were hospitalized unless they were in legit danger .. the "paranoid people with a dry cough" getting hospitalized didn't happen here



For example, today we have 18 in hospital for virus for the entire province



Past few months, at worse times most was 30 or 40 .. highest ever was 50 + at one time
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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Quote from: cc post_id=369182 time=1593494924 user_id=88
I don't get that. Here, no people with virus were hospitalized unless they were in legit danger .. the "paranoid people with a dry cough" getting hospitalized didn't happen here



For example, today we have 18 in hospital for virus for the entire province



Past few months, at worse times most was 30 or 40

Not so much here in Saskatchewan, but Alberta and Manitoba had people going to emergency rooms if they got a cough. This is despite being told not to do that. But, for the most part, hospitals across the prairies were empty. Surgeries and treatments not getting done. Frickin crazy.

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Empty and no regular stuff was crazy



True that we were told call hot line or doc but do not come in unless serious .. i.e.only  if hotline or doc said to or it was dire
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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Quote from: cc post_id=369184 time=1593495372 user_id=88
Empty and no regular stuff was crazy



True that we were told call hot line or doc but do not come in unless serious .. i.e.only  if hotline or doc said to or it was dire

The hospital priority thing was the worst of this. I am glad nobody I know needed surgery during this, because it would have been delayed or cancelled.

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I'm feeling for Fash. She's one of the innocent victims
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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I'm feeling for Fash. She's one of the innocent victims

There are lots of stories like hers and worse.

Anonymous

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Quote from: cc post_id=369187 time=1593496424 user_id=88
I'm feeling for Fash. She's one of the innocent victims

There are lots of stories like hers and worse.

Much worse.

Anonymous

By Anthony Furey of Sun News Media



Let's stop fearmongering over back-to-school



What was the evidence that sending kids to school, with some form of revised sanitation protocols in place, would put them "in harm's way"? In fact, around that very time studies were surfacing that showed there was very little harm to be had. "Growing evidence suggests children are less susceptible to infection, have milder infection, and are infrequently responsible for household transmission," said Alasdair Munro, a clinical research fellow in pediatric infectious diseases at University Hospital Southampton and coauthor of a major report on how COVID-19 affects kids.



That's the U.K., but the same is playing out in Canada.



The latest numbers from the Public Health Agency of Canada tell us that, as of Thursday, there have been 8,588 Canadians under the age of 20 who have tested positive for COVID-19. Only 125 of those have been hospitalized and only one of them has died. That's right. There has only ever been one COVID-19 death

Anonymous

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So, what you saying? No protective measures like mask wearing and hand sanitizer for you. You go ahead and catch the Chinese virus. I do not want it.

Anonymous

Shen Li is trying to downplay China's responsibility by implying it's no more serious than a seasonal flu.

Anonymous

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Shen Li is trying to downplay China's responsibility by implying it's no more serious than a seasonal flu.


I know what the China shill is doing.

Gaon

History will judge the hysteria'

Top Tel Aviv U prof says "There is a great interest for anyone who supported the draconian measures in saying Sweden's policy has failed."



Prof. Udi Qimron will soon head the Department of Clinical Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University.



In an interview with Yediot Ahronot, Qimron shed further light on the coronavirus. "There is a very great interest for anyone who has supported the draconian measures taken around the world to say that Sweden's policy has failed. Because if it succeeded, and trillions went down the drain for no reason, someone will have to answer for it."



"That is why all over the world they prefer to claim that [Sweden] was wrong. But in the end, the truth came to the surface. In a world where decision makers, their advisers and the media were able to admit their mistake and the initial panic that gripped them, we would have long since returned to routine. The ongoing destruction due to the inability to admit this mistake, despite the epidemic's small mortality numbers, is outrageous. History will judge the hysteria."



"If we had not been told that there was an epidemic in the country, you would not have known there was such an epidemic and you would not have done anything about it," he said emphatically. "The fact that this issue runs all day in the media inflates it beyond its natural dimensions. If black death had raged here, as in the 14th century, you would not have had to follow the situation in the news, the bodies would have piled up in the streets. We were not and we are not in this situation today."



Prof. Qimron noted that the total number of coronavirus deaths does not exceed 0.1% of the total population in any country, and the death rate from coronavirus is less than 0.01% of the total world population, meaning that 99.99% of the world's population so far has survived the epidemic and the virus is negligibly lethal.



He said smart behavior would be the opposite of what we do today; Populations not at risk should become infected and create chains of immunity, which will protect the sick and the elderly. We are currently working for sweeping social distancing, which prevents such differential immunity, he said.



He went on to explain that infection of children is a welcome thing, because it protects at-risk populations. "For the same reason, I would open up the whole education system, because the vast majority is made up of people who are not at risk. Of course a solution needs to be found for teachers suffering from diabetes or other background diseases, but I see no reason to prevent activities that encourage the economy. Not only because it allows parents to go to work, but also because it lowers mortality in the long run. I would also ask children and young people to take off their masks. Of course, it is impossible to force a child to take off a mask, but proper information will do the job."



"At the same time, I would call on at-risk populations, our parents and people with background illnesses, to avoid social gatherings in the coming months until we reach the appropriate immunity depth. It is possible and desirable to recommend at-risk populations to wear masks. I would also open the skies and abolish the isolation obligation for those returning from abroad. With the situation of carriers abroad compared to within Israel, there is no reason to isolate tourists, just as you and I are not isolated even though we have an even higher probability than that of a random tourist from abroad to be a carrier. These are things that got into our minds four months ago and we do not understand that their time has passed," he added.

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This is what should have happened.
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Anonymous

Almost 90% of fatalities have been people over 70 years of age, 71.4% over 80 years of age.



Second, 82% of the cases and 94% of the fatalities have occurred in Ontario and Quebec.



Third, 67% of all COVID-19 deaths in Ontario and Quebec have occurred in long-term care homes (over 80% at the height of the pandemic.)



Fourth, there has been one reported death for Canadians 0 to 19 years of age and 10 deaths for Canadians 0 to 29, or 0.1% of all deaths.



None of these statistics are meant to devalue the lives of those who have died.



But what they tell us going forward is that protecting the elderly and vulnerable are vital to minimizing fatalities caused by COVID-19 and future pandemics.



This is particularly true in group home settings, also a key lesson for this pandemic and any future ones.



By comparison, students returning to school next month will be at relatively low risk from COVID-19.



That doesn't mean there won't be any new cases. That's inevitable as more students return to classes.



But the advantage we have now, that we didn't have at the height of the pandemic, is that infection rates have dropped significantly.



Combined with our increased ability to test quickly for COVID-19, this has significantly increased our ability to respond to and contain isolated outbreaks quickly.



Of course, we must all continue to be vigilant, wear masks and observe basic hygiene procedures, plus be prepared for renewed lockdowns if that becomes necessary.



We are much better equipped to prevent that today than we were at the start of the outbreak.

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Quote from: seoulbro post_id=378024 time=1598644260 user_id=114
Almost 90% of fatalities have been people over 70 years of age, 71.4% over 80 years of age.



Second, 82% of the cases and 94% of the fatalities have occurred in Ontario and Quebec.



Third, 67% of all COVID-19 deaths in Ontario and Quebec have occurred in long-term care homes (over 80% at the height of the pandemic.)



Fourth, there has been one reported death for Canadians 0 to 19 years of age and 10 deaths for Canadians 0 to 29, or 0.1% of all deaths.



None of these statistics are meant to devalue the lives of those who have died.



But what they tell us going forward is that protecting the elderly and vulnerable are vital to minimizing fatalities caused by COVID-19 and future pandemics.



This is particularly true in group home settings, also a key lesson for this pandemic and any future ones.



By comparison, students returning to school next month will be at relatively low risk from COVID-19.



That doesn't mean there won't be any new cases. That's inevitable as more students return to classes.



But the advantage we have now, that we didn't have at the height of the pandemic, is that infection rates have dropped significantly.



Combined with our increased ability to test quickly for COVID-19, this has significantly increased our ability to respond to and contain isolated outbreaks quickly.



Of course, we must all continue to be vigilant, wear masks and observe basic hygiene procedures, plus be prepared for renewed lockdowns if that becomes necessary.



We are much better equipped to prevent that today than we were at the start of the outbreak.

Ya, we could have handled this in a smarter way. The problem is that nobody knew anything about this frickin virus.