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Started by Bricktop, March 21, 2016, 08:48:12 PM

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Bricktop

As in other parts of the "enlightened world", the smacking of children has been frowned upon, or even declared an assault without any exemption or excuse.



Thus it was that a parent in Australia was charged with assaulting his child (Names suppressed for obvious reasons), for what amounted to a non injurious smack. Note that the offender was a male. I wonder if charges would have been forthcoming if it were a female.



Case thrown out. Reason prevailed. The judge stated that "it cannot be accepted that a parent commits a crime for smacking their own children".



That's one for common sense.



 :thumbup:



http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/smacking-a-child-does-not-transform-a-parent-into-a-criminal-sa-supreme-court-rules/news-story/4189d20bb1760f05bb9189a55bfd6b63">http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... a55bfd6b63">http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/smacking-a-child-does-not-transform-a-parent-into-a-criminal-sa-supreme-court-rules/news-story/4189d20bb1760f05bb9189a55bfd6b63

RW

That case has been done here ages ago.
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Anonymous

Doesn't True Dope want to criminalize spanking?

RW

I don't know but we've been through this before.
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Anonymous

Justine is an idiot.
QuoteLiberals plan to make spanking illegal



It looks like Canada's "spanking law" may be destined for the history books. The Liberals have agreed to try to remove controversial section 43 of the Criminal Code, which allows parents and teachers to use reasonable physical force to discipline children.

http://www.todaysparent.com/blogs/on-our-minds/liberals-plan-to-make-spanking-illegal/">http://www.todaysparent.com/blogs/on-ou ... g-illegal/">http://www.todaysparent.com/blogs/on-our-minds/liberals-plan-to-make-spanking-illegal/

RW

I was sure the Supreme Court already ruled on this issue.
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Bricktop

If parliament creates a specific law, then courts must apply it.



This is crazy...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Mr Crowley"If parliament creates a specific law, then courts must apply it.



This is crazy...

I haven't heard much about it. Justine mentioned in the election, but I don't know if it has been voted into law. I hope not, it's nuts.

RW

Quote from: "Mr Crowley"If parliament creates a specific law, then courts must apply it.



This is crazy...

Courts don't re-create laws outside of Supreme Court rulings.
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Anonymous

It's part of the recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.



http://globalnews.ca/news/2444188/spanking-children-could-soon-be-illegal-in-canada/">http://globalnews.ca/news/2444188/spank ... in-canada/">http://globalnews.ca/news/2444188/spanking-children-could-soon-be-illegal-in-canada/

Spanking may be a thing of the past in Canada. The Liberal Government has announced that it intends to enforce all of the recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.



One of the 96 recommendations is to remove Section 43 of the Canadian Criminal Code. This controversial section allows teachers and parents to use reasonable force under the circumstances to discipline children.



Section 43 of the Criminal Code reads as follows:



Every schoolteacher, parent or person standing in the place of a parent is justified in using force by way of correction toward a pupil or child, as the case may be, who is under his care, if the force does not exceed what is reasonable under the circumstances.



This so-called 'Spanking Law' was reviewed by the Supreme Court in 2004 – and upheld.



More than 40 countries worldwide have banned the physical punishment of children, including Sweden and New Zealand.



A Global News poll with 14,527 responses shows 58.79 per cent  (8,540 votes) believe spanking should be illegal, while 41.21 per cent  (5,987 votes) believe it should not be illegal.



Dr. Gerald Robert Farthing at the University of Saskatchewan has been a child development psychologist for decades and says that while he doesn't think teachers should be able to punish children physically, parents under the right circumstances should.



"For me I think the context is very important," Farthing said. "If we have a loving parent relationship where along with it comes the instruction or the training or the talking, then spanking as a resource along the line can be a very effective strategy."



It's a divisive topic and there's still a ways to go. In order to remove the Section 43 of the Criminal Code a bill will need to be presented and passed in Parliament.


Anonymous

Trudeau wrote a blank cheque to Aboriginal leaders. Agreeing to implement all 94 recommendations without any concern for cost or anything else is stupid. Shows he doesn't know how to negotiate.

Bricktop


Anonymous

Quote from: "Mr Crowley"You elected a real chump.

We sure did.

RW

Speak for yourself!  I didn't vote for him.
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Anonymous

The election aside, I do not have a problem with making it illegal for teachers to use physical discipline..



At home children are exposed to many dangers and a spank on the bottom is sometimes necessary.