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Federal judge rules Obamacare unconstitutional

Started by Anonymous, December 16, 2018, 01:23:44 PM

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Anonymous

Just wow. :shock:





A federal judge in Texas said on Friday that the Affordable Care Act's individual coverage mandate is unconstitutional and that the rest of the law therefore cannot stand.



Legal experts say the ruling won't immediately affect Americans' health coverage, and a group of states led by California is already vowing to appeal. But the invalidation of the landmark health care law popularly known as Obamacare throws into doubt the future of health coverage for millions of Americans on the Obamacare exchanges and in Medicaid expansion.

The ruling and expected appeal sets up another cliffhanger in which the fate of the law, which Republicans have unsuccessfully tried to repeal for years, will likely once again ultimately lie with the Supreme Court.

Chief Justice John Roberts cast the deciding vote leaving the law intact in 2012, but it's unclear how the justices will view this challenge, which centers on changes to the individual mandate that were baked into the 2017 tax reform.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/texas-aca-lawsuit/index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics ... index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/texas-aca-lawsuit/index.html

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"Just wow. :shock:





A federal judge in Texas said on Friday that the Affordable Care Act's individual coverage mandate is unconstitutional and that the rest of the law therefore cannot stand.



Legal experts say the ruling won't immediately affect Americans' health coverage, and a group of states led by California is already vowing to appeal. But the invalidation of the landmark health care law popularly known as Obamacare throws into doubt the future of health coverage for millions of Americans on the Obamacare exchanges and in Medicaid expansion.

The ruling and expected appeal sets up another cliffhanger in which the fate of the law, which Republicans have unsuccessfully tried to repeal for years, will likely once again ultimately lie with the Supreme Court.

Chief Justice John Roberts cast the deciding vote leaving the law intact in 2012, but it's unclear how the justices will view this challenge, which centers on changes to the individual mandate that were baked into the 2017 tax reform.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/texas-aca-lawsuit/index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics ... index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/texas-aca-lawsuit/index.html

Holy shit, now what?



If an appeal is unsuccessful, expect a fight in the divided houses and the executive branch.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Just wow. :shock:





A federal judge in Texas said on Friday that the Affordable Care Act's individual coverage mandate is unconstitutional and that the rest of the law therefore cannot stand.



Legal experts say the ruling won't immediately affect Americans' health coverage, and a group of states led by California is already vowing to appeal. But the invalidation of the landmark health care law popularly known as Obamacare throws into doubt the future of health coverage for millions of Americans on the Obamacare exchanges and in Medicaid expansion.

The ruling and expected appeal sets up another cliffhanger in which the fate of the law, which Republicans have unsuccessfully tried to repeal for years, will likely once again ultimately lie with the Supreme Court.

Chief Justice John Roberts cast the deciding vote leaving the law intact in 2012, but it's unclear how the justices will view this challenge, which centers on changes to the individual mandate that were baked into the 2017 tax reform.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/texas-aca-lawsuit/index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics ... index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/texas-aca-lawsuit/index.html

Holy shit, now what?



If an appeal is unsuccessful, expect a fight in the divided houses and the executive branch.

I haven't read  the whole ruling yet, but my understanding it's only on the individual mandate.



As a sidebar on Obamacare, premiums skyrocketed 105% between 2013 and 2017 and fifty per cent of counties had only one or no insurer. Since reforms in 2017, premiums have risen five per cent because there is choice now for insurers. The GOP congress stabilized Obamacare. It was unsustainable under Obama.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Just wow. :shock:





A federal judge in Texas said on Friday that the Affordable Care Act's individual coverage mandate is unconstitutional and that the rest of the law therefore cannot stand.



Legal experts say the ruling won't immediately affect Americans' health coverage, and a group of states led by California is already vowing to appeal. But the invalidation of the landmark health care law popularly known as Obamacare throws into doubt the future of health coverage for millions of Americans on the Obamacare exchanges and in Medicaid expansion.

The ruling and expected appeal sets up another cliffhanger in which the fate of the law, which Republicans have unsuccessfully tried to repeal for years, will likely once again ultimately lie with the Supreme Court.

Chief Justice John Roberts cast the deciding vote leaving the law intact in 2012, but it's unclear how the justices will view this challenge, which centers on changes to the individual mandate that were baked into the 2017 tax reform.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/texas-aca-lawsuit/index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics ... index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/texas-aca-lawsuit/index.html

Holy shit, now what?



If an appeal is unsuccessful, expect a fight in the divided houses and the executive branch.

I haven't read  the whole ruling yet, but my understanding it's only on the individual mandate.



As a sidebar on Obamacare, premiums skyrocketed 105% between 2013 and 2017 and fifty per cent of counties had only one or no insurer. Since reforms in 2017, premiums have risen five per cent because there is choice now for insurers. The GOP congress stabilized Obamacare. It was unsustainable under Obama.

That would explain why support for it has increased.

Bricktop

Tangentially...what is a STATE judge doing ruling on FEDERAL legislation.



State courts have no authority on Federal matters in Australia.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Tangentially...what is a STATE judge doing ruling on FEDERAL legislation.



State courts have no authority on Federal matters in Australia.

Apparently they can make rulings, but it doesn't need an appeal to a higher court. Any federal judge can over rule it. And since most judges in the Southern district are prog appointees, I expect that to happen.

Bricktop

Weird.



State courts here have no authority on Federal matters. All Federal matters are referred to Federal courts.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Weird.



State courts here have no authority on Federal matters. All Federal matters are referred to Federal courts.

That's why nobody in any branch of government is too concerned about coming up with a replacement. A federal judge will over rule the state judge's decision.

JOE

#8
USA will never get  universal healthcare



Whadda socially stunted and backward country



Many Americans can only dream what the citizens of many countries have had for decades

Wazzzup

Quote from: "JOE"USA will never get  universal healthcare



Whadda socially stunted and backward country



Many Americans can only dream what the citizens of many countries have had for decades
Looks like the 60 year old virgin is trolling again. :001_rolleyes:

caskur

Quote from: "JOE"USA will never get  universal healthcare



Whadda socially stunted and backward country



Many Americans can only dream what the citizens of many countries have had for decades




They couldn't even switch to the metric system and 40 + years on.



 :001_rolleyes:
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Wazzzup

#11
Quote from: "Bricktop"Tangentially...what is a STATE judge doing ruling on FEDERAL legislation.



State courts have no authority on Federal matters in Australia.
It was actually a federal judge making this ruling, not a state judge.  Its confusing because they list Texas.



Federal judge in Texas strikes down Affordable Care Act

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/texas-aca-lawsuit/index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics ... index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/texas-aca-lawsuit/index.html

Wazzzup

Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "JOE"USA will never get  universal healthcare



Whadda socially stunted and backward country



Many Americans can only dream what the citizens of many countries have had for decades




They couldn't even switch to the metric system and 40 + years on.



 :001_rolleyes:
looks like Joe has a groupie.  Maybe caskur can help him finally lose his virginity.

Blazor

Finally!  ac_dance



I knew that shit wasnt right from the get go, they wasnt foolin' ol' Blaze. Its like mandating broccoli Wednesday. Tricksy Obama changed the word from a FINE to a Tax Penalty, that right there was all the alarm I needed.
I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "JOE"USA will never get  universal healthcare



Whadda socially stunted and backward country



Many Americans can only dream what the citizens of many countries have had for decades




They couldn't even switch to the metric system and 40 + years on.



 :001_rolleyes:
looks like Joe has a groupie.  Maybe caskur can help him finally lose his virginity.

Caskur is really nice.