New Zealand now understands gun control

[Frood]

Nevermind BT, Blazor. He's just an authoritarian puss puss and coward. He loves the State. Thinks it tastes creamy on his lips.

[Bricktop]

I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.

Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.

My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  

He carries a pistol.



The offender has at least one AR15, and plenty of mags.



There is a world of difference between carrying a pistol, and responding to a life threatening emergency. Try it. Fill a room full of your friends, and at some random time another will storm into that room, firing a semi or full auto military calibre rifle...maybe filled with blanks. See how you respond. In our training, this is exactly what we experienced...out of nowhere, loud gunfire and screaming. Switching to effective defence takes a LOT of will power and discipline.



It's also odd that many people believe that these lunatics just wander into their chosen field of operation blindly and without consideration of armed resistance. In YOUR country especially, they will be vigilant for return fire.



Of course, nothing will change in America. You guys love guns. They make you feel taller and tougher. You have RIGHTS.

[Blazor]

Nevermind BT, Blazor. He's just an authoritarian puss puss and coward. He loves the State. Thinks it tastes creamy on his lips.

Its his one wish before he goes to heaven, rid the world of guns. Hes trying his best to get past the gates and make amends for all the shit he has endured upon fine forum folk  

[Blazor]

I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.

Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.

My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  

He carries a pistol.



The offender has at least one AR15, and plenty of mags.



There is a world of difference between carrying a pistol, and responding to a life threatening emergency. Try it. Fill a room full of your friends, and at some random time another will storm into that room, firing a semi or full auto military calibre rifle...maybe filled with blanks. See how you respond. In our training, this is exactly what we experienced...out of nowhere, loud gunfire and screaming. Switching to effective defence takes a LOT of will power and discipline.



It's also odd that many people believe that these lunatics just wander into their chosen field of operation blindly and without consideration of armed resistance. In YOUR country especially, they will be vigilant for return fire.



Of course, nothing will change in America. You guys love guns. They make you feel taller and tougher. You have RIGHTS.

I see what you're saying, but you dont know everyone, everyone responds differently. Mind you if that fucker came in my home, he wouldnt leave in one piece.



I do love my guns, but its not like Im drinking Ent juice and growing lol, nah I feel prouder, a protector, a defender, aint those the things you felt when you carried?

[Bricktop]

No.



If I were only respected and effective because of a gun, I'd have quit.



Not at any stage did carrying a gun make me feel stronger, or even safer. When you've lived in the underworld, you soon learn that events usually happen outside your control, and carrying a gun rarely, if ever, prevented those events. True, there were times when the firearm resolved and controlled situations...but only after the damage had been done.



Guns don't protect if the other side has the element of surprise (which is usually the case) or simply doesn't care. A gun is only effective if fired.



And if my training taught me anything, it taught me that 30 metres with a pistol gave you a reasonable chance of a stopping hit, 50 metres required a lot of luck, and after that you may as well spit. If they have a rifle, get out fast. If you had a .357 the chances reduced because of the recoil.

[Blazor]

Those aint the words I used, I said "prouder, a protector, a defender". Again I see what you are saying on all those other things, but all depends on the person, and its a hell of a lot better than having nothing. Im not a fast runner, and my karate aint very good against a gun, especially unless you close.

[Bricktop]

What you're saying, and with which I agree, is that things just aren't that simple any more. The maniacs have worked out how to slaughter crowds of people. They work out their targets and there is nothing we can do to identify them all and interdict their madness.



Whilst I maintain my general tenet on the issue of gun control, we are moving to a point where more armed security personnel are going to be needed, even at previously ignored venues like churches and schools.



World's going to hell, and Satan's minions are doing a bang up job accelerating the process.

[Blazor]

What you're saying, and with which I agree, is that things just aren't that simple any more. The maniacs have worked out how to slaughter crowds of people. They work out their targets and there is nothing we can do to identify them all and interdict their madness.



Whilst I maintain my general tenet on the issue of gun control, we are moving to a point where more armed security personnel are going to be needed, even at previously ignored venues like churches and schools.



World's going to hell, and Satan's minions are doing a bang up job accelerating the process.

True, the maniacs you normally dont know til its too late.



The thing with hired hands, is you have to wait for hired hands to react, and who knows where they may be during the situation. It use to be legal for kids to carry a rifle to school here long time ago, but that got struck down quick. It also use to be no big deal to carry a pistol, and more people did, but then it seemed like there was more peaceful times, less carried, then it turned into a scary thing to see in public and others quit carrying. Less and less folks carry openly. This gives these maniacs the chance, easy pickin's in their eyes. Where if more carried, respectful folk, this would deter a LOT of this. "An armed society is a polite society".

[caskur]

It took 50 deaths, but the penny dropped.



New Zealand's pathetically weak and inefficient gun laws facilitated a mass murder, just as they did in the US.



However, unlike the US, the NZ government has accepted that they must make drastic and immediate changes to the administration of firearm ownership in their nation.



And who do they look to for guidance and advice?



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It's easier to manage 3 million kiwis BUT 300 million Yanks?... good luck with that one.

[Bricktop]

No, you're right.



The American gun ownership madness is beyond control. They are going to slaughter each other in the thousands.

[Odinson]

I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.

Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.

My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  

The question is... Does he want to save all those muslims?  ac_biggrin





I would be like.... WHITE POWER!



And then I will run away.

[Blazor]

No, you're right.



The American gun ownership madness is beyond control. They are going to slaughter each other in the thousands.

I cant wait  



lol

[Blazor]

I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.

Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.

My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  

The question is... Does he want to save all those muslims?  ac_biggrin





I would be like.... WHITE POWER!



And then I will run away.

     



I forgot the scenario he would of been in lol.

[Bricktop]

No, you're right.



The American gun ownership madness is beyond control. They are going to slaughter each other in the thousands.

I cant wait  



lol

Psycho!!!



 

[Odinson]

I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.

Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.

My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  

The question is... Does he want to save all those muslims?  ac_biggrin





I would be like.... WHITE POWER!



And then I will run away.

     



I forgot the scenario he would of been in lol.

He would be the saviour of muslims..





Not something to be proud of.  ac_biggrin





Though it would be funny to see how the leftie media reacts to such a thing...



Muslims saved by a white guy... A redneck at that.  ac_biggrin