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Report does not exonerate Trump but Mueller Finds No Trump Collusion

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[size=200]Mueller Finds No Trump Collusion; Barr Sees No Obstruction Case[/size]



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-24/mueller-made-no-conclusion-on-obstruction-by-trump-barr-says?srnd=premium&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_content=business&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_source=twitter">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ce=twitter">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-24/mueller-made-no-conclusion-on-obstruction-by-trump-barr-says?srnd=premium&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_content=business&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_source=twitter



Special Counsel Robert Mueller made no conclusion on possible obstruction of justice by President Donald Trump but found no evidence of collusion with Russia, according to Attorney General William Barr.



"The report found evidence on both sides of the question" on obstruction and "leaves unresolved what the special counsel views as difficult issues of law," Barr wrote in a four-page letter to Congress on Sunday. Barr quoted Mueller as saying, "While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."



Barr, in conjunction with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, "concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense," he wrote.



The report will be read by Trump's supporters as clearing him of the two major allegations that have hung over his presidency -- collusion and obstruction of justice -- even as Democrats in Congress seem certain to assert their right to determine Trump's guilt or innocence on the question of obstruction of justice.



On Russia's hacking operation in 2016, Barr said, "The Special Counsel did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign."



Barr issued the summary of Mueller's "principal conclusions" two days after Mueller gave him his still-secret report. It was the close of a politically explosive 22-month investigation into whether Trump or those around him conspired in Russia's interference in the 2016 campaign and whether the president sought to obstruct justice.



It's sure to be only the beginning of months of fighting in Congress -- and perhaps in the courts -- over how much should be disclosed from Mueller's report. Barr said in a letter to Congress on Friday that after this initial summary he'll consult with Mueller and Rosenstein to determine what other information from the report can be released to Congress and the public."



Nothing in the Justice Department's regulations on special counsels would prevent Barr from releasing Mueller's report once certain material is redacted, including classified matters and information about continuing law enforcement operations. But Barr has cited the department's policies against publicly criticizing someone who isn't indicted -- and against indicting a sitting president.



Democratic lawmakers already have demanded the full report as well as the underlying evidence so they can pursue their own investigations.



Trump, who has proclaimed or tweeted "NO COLLUSION" more than 200 times and has routinely denounced Mueller's "witch hunt," made no comment on the special counsel's report over the weekend in Florida. He spent much of the time on his golf course with partners including Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham. The Democratic candidates who seek to replace him in 2020 joined in demanding the full release of the report.



Justice Department officials, who described Mueller's report as comprehensive, said he didn't recommend any additional indictments and doesn't have any secret indictments under seal.



Before completing his probe, Mueller helped secure guilty pleas from five people involved in Trump's presidential campaign -- including his campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn, who became his first national security adviser -- though none admitted to conspiring with Russian operatives. He also indicted more than two dozen Russian hackers and military intelligence officers.



While Mueller didn't seek an indictment of Trump or members of his family, they're not necessarily in the clear.



Trump faces continuing risk from other investigations, with federal prosecutors in New York looking into his company, presidential campaign and inaugural committee. Mueller has been sharing some matters and handing off others to U.S. attorney's offices in Manhattan; Alexandria, Virginia; and Washington, as well as the Justice Department's national security division. That may keep alive cases that touch on his personal and business affairs.
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Frood

Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

It doesn't matter. The democRATS won't accept the results from Mueller.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/23/joy-reid-mueller-cover-up/?utm_medium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/23/joy- ... dium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/23/joy-reid-mueller-cover-up/?utm_medium=email

JOY REID: MUELLER REPORT CONCLUSION 'FEELS LIKE THE SEEDS OF A COVER-UP'



MSNBC host Joy Reid said the Mueller investigation conclusion "feels like the seeds of a cover-up" during a Saturday panel discussion on "AM Joy."



Reid was responding to a panelist who contended that no Trump administration officials have "conducted themselves honorably through this entire process" and that Attorney General William Barr would be no different.



"That's the challenge," Reid responded before taking issue with the Mueller investigation taking place outside of Congress.



"The fact that this investigation takes place within the justice Department which Donald Trump essentially controls and that he got rid of the problem, Jeff Sessions, who the one decent thing that he did was just recuse himself, this guy is not recused, it feels like the seeds of a cover-up are here," she said.



Malcolm Nance pushed back on the idea of an overt cover-up.



"Well, I mean, theoretically it could happen, right?" said Nance. "These are humans. They are all fallible maybe he does feel some sort of loyalty to him. Bill Barr is one guy. There are secretaries. There are people who have to handle these documents. There are the FBI agents who did this themselves. I don't think that there's room for a cover-up because why cover up the greatest scandal in the history of the United States with the greatest scandal in the history of the United States, an attorney general trying to engineer that. I don't believe that's going to happen because if they do, then you can just see copies of this thing falling out by the palate load in front of The Washington Post."



Nevertheless, Nance still went on to compare President Trump to Benedict Arnold.

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Continued...



Through a series of indictments, Mueller laid out a picture of operatives and hackers tied to Russian intelligence agencies doing all they could to help put Trump in the White House even as other Russian officials had scores of contacts with people tied to Trump's campaign.



In the letter on Friday to leaders of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees, Barr said, "I remain committed to as much transparency as possible, and I will keep you informed as to the status of my review."



But Barr suggested during his confirmation hearing in February that he might exclude any criticism of Trump and others who weren't charged with crimes from the information he'd share with Congress.



"If you're not going to indict someone, then you don't stand up there and unload negative information about the person," he said.



In addition, Trump and his lawyers have indicated that before any details from Mueller's findings are made public they want to see anything that would disclose the president's private communications. They say they want to preserve their right to assert executive privilege, the doctrine that a president must have the ability to receive candid advice.



Congressional Democrats -- who now control the House -- say they want broad disclosure of Mueller's investigative work, citing the earlier success of Republicans in pressuring the Justice Department to release details they said showed anti-Trump bias in the FBI. They have talked of issuing subpoenas to force disclosure and even public testimony by Mueller.



"It is imperative for Mr. Barr to make the full report public and provide its underlying documentation and findings to Congress," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said Friday in a joint statement.



Mueller, a former FBI director, was appointed in May 2017 to conduct one of the most consequential investigations in U.S. history. He hasn't spoken a word in public since then, leaving it to the indictments he's filed to build his case.



Beyond Russia's election meddling -- which U.S. intelligence agencies found was aimed at hurting Democrat Hillary Clinton and ultimately at helping Trump win -- Mueller investigated possible collusion in the operation and whether Trump sought to obstruct justice in what the president has regularly denounced as a "witch hunt."



In particular, Mueller investigated Trump's effort to get then-FBI Director James Comey to drop an investigation into Flynn, the former national security adviser. Mueller also investigated whether Trump's decision to fire Comey in May 2017 constituted obstruction of justice.



Mueller indicted and convicted Manafort, the former campaign chairman, for a series of financial crimes, and he's been sentenced to 7 1/2 years in prison. He also secured guilty pleas and cooperation agreements from Flynn, Trump's deputy campaign chairman Richard Gates, campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos and Trump's former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen.



Mueller's investigation cost about $25 million from his appointment in May 2017 through September 2018, according to the latest figures, provided by the Justice Department in December.



— With assistance by Billy House, and Steven T. Dennis
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The Bloomberg article will direct you to a copy of Barr's letter to Congress.
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[size=80]Sometimes, my comments have a touch of humor, often tongue-in-cheek, so don\'t take it so seriously.[/size]

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[size=80]Sometimes, my comments have a touch of humor, often tongue-in-cheek, so don\'t take it so seriously.[/size]

Anonymous

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"The Bloomberg article will direct you to a copy of Barr's letter to Congress.

It doesn't matter though. DemocRATS like Adam Shit will not accept that.

Frood

I don't read Bloomberg at all if I can help it.



It's over. The witch hunt fizzled out.
Blahhhhhh...

@realAzhyaAryola

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"The Bloomberg article will direct you to a copy of Barr's letter to Congress.

It doesn't matter though. DemocRATS like Adam Shit will not accept that.


It's for anyone who wants to read it.



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Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"I don't read Bloomberg at all if I can help it.



It's over. The witch hunt fizzled out.


Noted. Others might want to.
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Anonymous

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"The Bloomberg article will direct you to a copy of Barr's letter to Congress.

It doesn't matter though. DemocRATS like Adam Shit will not accept that.


It's for anyone who wants to read it.



https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/r.njjovzDF.E/v0">https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/ ... ovzDF.E/v0">https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/r.njjovzDF.E/v0

I will read it. Adam Shit won't.

Anonymous

The reaction from the TDS sufferers was totally predictable.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"The Bloomberg article will direct you to a copy of Barr's letter to Congress.

It doesn't matter though. DemocRATS like Adam Shit will not accept that.

It looks like they are doubling down on removing him from office.

@realAzhyaAryola

I have no words except I just wish they would leave this president alone and let him run the country like he was elected to do so. We have more to tackle like the infrastructure.
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Bricktop

There has to be a reckoning against those who plotted and executed this attempted coup.