Notre-Dame Cathedral spire, roof collapse, engulfed by flames

[Anonymous]

The architect thinks those timbers shouldn't have gone up like that.

I haven't watched the architect yet but he is probably wrong.



Kurt was working at Ocean fast when a luxury yacht and the premises burned down and that wasn't 1000 year old timber.



Once the heat gets to a certain point, nothing stops it.



I'll watch him now and see what he says.

He believes that the 800 year oaks being hard to ignite combined with new wiring and fire detection tech he was responsible for fitting doesn't explain how the fire could have grown so fast and hot.

We're going to 'hear' a lot of things but going by today's attacks on Sri Lankas churches, it looks like something is going on.





They shouldn't have played the Christchurch massacre over and over. It just stirs the crazies into action.

The Muslim crazies have been stirred up for the last 1400 years.

Exactly.

[Bricktop]

And here we go again...ignorant journalists trying to "ignite" (pun intended) another conspiracy theory.



Let Uncle Bricktop inform you of facts.



If this was arson, then the arsonist would have needed to use both an igniter and an accelerant. Now, the use of these implements leave very clear and identifiable traces and indicators. Fire investigators can spot arson the moment they look at the scene and identify the ignition point. Accelerants, such as petrol and kerosene do NOT completely combust...so when an accelerant has been utilised, you can SMELL it hours after the fire has been extinguished.



Now, try a little experiment. Take a can of petrol into your garden, pour it onto a non flammable surface and throw a match from well away. You may note that the petrol does not burn, but ignites with a substantial force.



Imagine that an arsonist used a 50 litre can of petrol. The resulting explosion would have been instantly observed. Practiced arsonists know that pouring an accelerant around the target area than tossing a match is likely to lead to their death, because by the time the match is lit, the building has filled with vapour which also ignites.



Electrical faults can be identified in seconds. If there is a short circuit, then the circuit breakers will almost certainly activate. If investigators see an activated circuit breaker, then in the absence of any other obvious cause, they can be almost certain an electrical fault occurred.



All of this can be observed without walking through the ashes.



Journalists do either not care about such facts, or choose to ignore them so that you, the livestock that they feed on for profit, will buy their shit.

[Odinson]

What if they renovate it to fit the current political atmosphere..





Some kind of a multicultural phaggot theme..







Might as well raze Paris to the ground..

[Wazzzup]

And here we go again...ignorant journalists trying to "ignite" (pun intended) another conspiracy theory.



Let Uncle Bricktop inform you of facts.



If this was arson, then the arsonist would have needed to use both an igniter and an accelerant. Now, the use of these implements leave very clear and identifiable traces and indicators. Fire investigators can spot arson the moment they look at the scene and identify the ignition point. Accelerants, such as petrol and kerosene do NOT completely combust...so when an accelerant has been utilised, you can SMELL it hours after the fire has been extinguished.



Now, try a little experiment. Take a can of petrol into your garden, pour it onto a non flammable surface and throw a match from well away. You may note that the petrol does not burn, but ignites with a substantial force.



Imagine that an arsonist used a 50 litre can of petrol. The resulting explosion would have been instantly observed. Practiced arsonists know that pouring an accelerant around the target area than tossing a match is likely to lead to their death, because by the time the match is lit, the building has filled with vapour which also ignites.



Electrical faults can be identified in seconds. If there is a short circuit, then the circuit breakers will almost certainly activate. If investigators see an activated circuit breaker, then in the absence of any other obvious cause, they can be almost certain an electrical fault occurred.



All of this can be observed without walking through the ashes.



Journalists do either not care about such facts, or choose to ignore them so that you, the livestock that they feed on for profit, will buy their shit.

Actually it was the media establishment that declared the idea it was arson verboten to be discussed because it might hurt Muslims feelings.



After Reading up on it-- Yes there are times when they can walk into the room and smell the accelerant.  But there are many others where it will take tests to determine if an accelerent was used, and no tests, as far as I read, were done yet.  Also it can require close examination, and examination was not possible because the structure was too unsafe to set foot in because of possible falling debris.



Basically they were only guessing.   Which is fine, but that is not final.  Chances are it wasn't arson, but until it is ruled out, it is certainly possible.

[Wazzzup]

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In a live broadcast April 16 on the French TV network LCI, Mouton explained that the oak timbers that made up the cathedral's roof had become hardened after more than 800 years and wouldn't burn easily.



"You would need a lot of kindling to succeed," said Mouton, who served as the chief architect from 2000 to 2013. "It stupefies me."



Authorities suspect some type of electrical fire sparked the blaze, but Mouton believes that's not possible.



"In the '90s, we updated all the electrical wiring of Notre Dame. So there is no possibility of a short circuit," he said. "We updated to conform with the contemporary norms, even going very far – all the detection and protection systems against fire in the cathedral."



Last Thursday, investigators were allowed inside the cathedral for the first time, and a French police official told the New York Times nothing was being ruled out. They are focusing on the possibility of a short-circuit by electrified bells near the spire or cigarette butts left by workers carrying out renovation.



A bells specialist at the French Ministry of Culture, Regis Singer, said it's plausible that the fire started in the bells in the spire.



But Nicolas Gueury, who electrified another set of bells in the cathedral in 2007, told the Times he thought about that possibility but has ruled it out.



"For me, this would be impossible," he said, pointing out that numerous redundant safeguards, including circuit breakers and shielding, were installed.



"It was draconian. We tripled the precautions," he said.



"We were all hyper-prudent. You don't do just anything in the forest," he said, referring to the medieval timbers that supported the roof. "It was hyper-securitized."



A contractor admitted last Wednesday that workers renovating the cathedral flouted a ban on smoking. But he insisted "in no way could a cigarette butt be the cause of the fire at Notre-Dame.

[Anonymous]

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In a live broadcast April 16 on the French TV network LCI, Mouton explained that the oak timbers that made up the cathedral's roof had become hardened after more than 800 years and wouldn't burn easily.



"You would need a lot of kindling to succeed," said Mouton, who served as the chief architect from 2000 to 2013. "It stupefies me."



Authorities suspect some type of electrical fire sparked the blaze, but Mouton believes that's not possible.



"In the '90s, we updated all the electrical wiring of Notre Dame. So there is no possibility of a short circuit," he said. "We updated to conform with the contemporary norms, even going very far – all the detection and protection systems against fire in the cathedral."



Last Thursday, investigators were allowed inside the cathedral for the first time, and a French police official told the New York Times nothing was being ruled out. They are focusing on the possibility of a short-circuit by electrified bells near the spire or cigarette butts left by workers carrying out renovation.



A bells specialist at the French Ministry of Culture, Regis Singer, said it's plausible that the fire started in the bells in the spire.



But Nicolas Gueury, who electrified another set of bells in the cathedral in 2007, told the Times he thought about that possibility but has ruled it out.



"For me, this would be impossible," he said, pointing out that numerous redundant safeguards, including circuit breakers and shielding, were installed.



"It was draconian. We tripled the precautions," he said.



"We were all hyper-prudent. You don't do just anything in the forest," he said, referring to the medieval timbers that supported the roof. "It was hyper-securitized."



A contractor admitted last Wednesday that workers renovating the cathedral flouted a ban on smoking. But he insisted "in no way could a cigarette butt be the cause of the fire at Notre-Dame.

Accident or not, it raised $1 billion.

[Bricktop]

I've been in that belfry. The bell technician's comparison to it being a forest isn't far off the mark. It's a maze of elaborate beams and supports that the bells pivot on, as well as a small area where the bellringer lived in medieval times.

[Anonymous]

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In a live broadcast April 16 on the French TV network LCI, Mouton explained that the oak timbers that made up the cathedral's roof had become hardened after more than 800 years and wouldn't burn easily.



"You would need a lot of kindling to succeed," said Mouton, who served as the chief architect from 2000 to 2013. "It stupefies me."



Authorities suspect some type of electrical fire sparked the blaze, but Mouton believes that's not possible.



"In the '90s, we updated all the electrical wiring of Notre Dame. So there is no possibility of a short circuit," he said. "We updated to conform with the contemporary norms, even going very far – all the detection and protection systems against fire in the cathedral."



Last Thursday, investigators were allowed inside the cathedral for the first time, and a French police official told the New York Times nothing was being ruled out. They are focusing on the possibility of a short-circuit by electrified bells near the spire or cigarette butts left by workers carrying out renovation.



A bells specialist at the French Ministry of Culture, Regis Singer, said it's plausible that the fire started in the bells in the spire.



But Nicolas Gueury, who electrified another set of bells in the cathedral in 2007, told the Times he thought about that possibility but has ruled it out.



"For me, this would be impossible," he said, pointing out that numerous redundant safeguards, including circuit breakers and shielding, were installed.



"It was draconian. We tripled the precautions," he said.



"We were all hyper-prudent. You don't do just anything in the forest," he said, referring to the medieval timbers that supported the roof. "It was hyper-securitized."



A contractor admitted last Wednesday that workers renovating the cathedral flouted a ban on smoking. But he insisted "in no way could a cigarette butt be the cause of the fire at Notre-Dame.

Accident or not, it raised $1 billion.

The next natural disaster like an earthquake and tsunami that leaves thousands of people homeless, the media should lie and say a museum or church in Europe was destroyed. It will better for fundraising.

[Wazzzup]

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In a live broadcast April 16 on the French TV network LCI, Mouton explained that the oak timbers that made up the cathedral's roof had become hardened after more than 800 years and wouldn't burn easily.



"You would need a lot of kindling to succeed," said Mouton, who served as the chief architect from 2000 to 2013. "It stupefies me."



Authorities suspect some type of electrical fire sparked the blaze, but Mouton believes that's not possible.



"In the '90s, we updated all the electrical wiring of Notre Dame. So there is no possibility of a short circuit," he said. "We updated to conform with the contemporary norms, even going very far – all the detection and protection systems against fire in the cathedral."



Last Thursday, investigators were allowed inside the cathedral for the first time, and a French police official told the New York Times nothing was being ruled out. They are focusing on the possibility of a short-circuit by electrified bells near the spire or cigarette butts left by workers carrying out renovation.



A bells specialist at the French Ministry of Culture, Regis Singer, said it's plausible that the fire started in the bells in the spire.



But Nicolas Gueury, who electrified another set of bells in the cathedral in 2007, told the Times he thought about that possibility but has ruled it out.



"For me, this would be impossible," he said, pointing out that numerous redundant safeguards, including circuit breakers and shielding, were installed.



"It was draconian. We tripled the precautions," he said.



"We were all hyper-prudent. You don't do just anything in the forest," he said, referring to the medieval timbers that supported the roof. "It was hyper-securitized."



A contractor admitted last Wednesday that workers renovating the cathedral flouted a ban on smoking. But he insisted "in no way could a cigarette butt be the cause of the fire at Notre-Dame.

Accident or not, it raised $1 billion.

The next natural disaster like an earthquake and tsunami that leaves thousands of people homeless, the media should lie and say a museum or church in Europe was destroyed. It will better for fundraising.

There is way more than enough money to pay to fix Notre-Dame plus a lot left over (especially since they probably will get insurance money as well) I wonder what they will do with all the excess money they are getting?  Probably put it in that poser fake popes pocket.  

[Anonymous]

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In a live broadcast April 16 on the French TV network LCI, Mouton explained that the oak timbers that made up the cathedral's roof had become hardened after more than 800 years and wouldn't burn easily.



"You would need a lot of kindling to succeed," said Mouton, who served as the chief architect from 2000 to 2013. "It stupefies me."



Authorities suspect some type of electrical fire sparked the blaze, but Mouton believes that's not possible.



"In the '90s, we updated all the electrical wiring of Notre Dame. So there is no possibility of a short circuit," he said. "We updated to conform with the contemporary norms, even going very far – all the detection and protection systems against fire in the cathedral."



Last Thursday, investigators were allowed inside the cathedral for the first time, and a French police official told the New York Times nothing was being ruled out. They are focusing on the possibility of a short-circuit by electrified bells near the spire or cigarette butts left by workers carrying out renovation.



A bells specialist at the French Ministry of Culture, Regis Singer, said it's plausible that the fire started in the bells in the spire.



But Nicolas Gueury, who electrified another set of bells in the cathedral in 2007, told the Times he thought about that possibility but has ruled it out.



"For me, this would be impossible," he said, pointing out that numerous redundant safeguards, including circuit breakers and shielding, were installed.



"It was draconian. We tripled the precautions," he said.



"We were all hyper-prudent. You don't do just anything in the forest," he said, referring to the medieval timbers that supported the roof. "It was hyper-securitized."



A contractor admitted last Wednesday that workers renovating the cathedral flouted a ban on smoking. But he insisted "in no way could a cigarette butt be the cause of the fire at Notre-Dame.

Accident or not, it raised $1 billion.

The next natural disaster like an earthquake and tsunami that leaves thousands of people homeless, the media should lie and say a museum or church in Europe was destroyed. It will better for fundraising.

There is way more than enough money to pay to fix Notre-Dame plus a lot left over (especially since they probably will get insurance money as well) I wonder what they will do with all the excess money they are getting?  Probably put it in that poser fake popes pocket.  

If the Vatican gets it.