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Solar and wind energy are not sustainable

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caskur

Because Canada like Australia will need their oil in the future...And we use the middle east oil in the balance of trade... It's cheaper to buy THEIR oil than use our own at the moment.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
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Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"Because Canada like Australia will need their oil in the future...And we use the middle east oil in the balance of trade... It's cheaper to buy THEIR oil than use our own at the moment.

WRONG!



The Americans, Russians and OPEC want to block competition from Canada.



https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/saudis-ripped-for-trying-to-block-pro-oil-sands-ad">https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/sa ... l-sands-ad">https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/saudis-ripped-for-trying-to-block-pro-oil-sands-ad

Saudis ripped for trying to block pro-oil sands ad

caskur

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "caskur"Because Canada like Australia will need their oil in the future...And we use the middle east oil in the balance of trade... It's cheaper to buy THEIR oil than use our own at the moment.

WRONG!



The Americans, Russians and OPEC want to block competition from Canada.



https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/saudis-ripped-for-trying-to-block-pro-oil-sands-ad">https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/sa ... l-sands-ad">https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/saudis-ripped-for-trying-to-block-pro-oil-sands-ad

Saudis ripped for trying to block pro-oil sands ad


If you don't create economies by buying their only real hot commodity in those Muslim countries then guess where they are going to move to?



I'd rather buy their oil and keep them far far away from me. Hey, but you might like having Muslims next to you, I dunno!~
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "caskur"Because Canada like Australia will need their oil in the future...And we use the middle east oil in the balance of trade... It's cheaper to buy THEIR oil than use our own at the moment.

WRONG!



The Americans, Russians and OPEC want to block competition from Canada.



https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/saudis-ripped-for-trying-to-block-pro-oil-sands-ad">https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/sa ... l-sands-ad">https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/saudis-ripped-for-trying-to-block-pro-oil-sands-ad

Saudis ripped for trying to block pro-oil sands ad


If you don't create economies by buying their only real hot commodity in those Muslim countries then guess where they are going to move to?

It's not just the Middle East though. Russia and the US are trying to block Canadian competition in oil and gas.

caskur

Bloody Russians and Yanks...



arseholes all of them.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"Bloody Russians and Yanks...



arseholes all of them.

I don't hate them..



But, they are afraid of competition from Canada.

Anonymous

caskur, take a look at this.



Researcher exposes money trail behind U.S.-based campaign to kill the oilsands

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/corbella-vivian-krause-should-become-a-household-name-across-canada">https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-ne ... oss-canada">https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/corbella-vivian-krause-should-become-a-household-name-across-canada

caskur

Quote from: "seoulbro"caskur, take a look at this.



Researcher exposes money trail behind U.S.-based campaign to kill the oilsands

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/corbella-vivian-krause-should-become-a-household-name-across-canada">https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-ne ... oss-canada">https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/corbella-vivian-krause-should-become-a-household-name-across-canada




The US are huge consumers of oil.



The article demonizers conservationists. I would like to see more evidence other than an article claiming they are being funded by the USA company profiteering from oil. Having said that, countries relying on their mining resources have their hands tied.



The USA have a HUGE military to support, they're not going to be changing their ways any time in the near future. They'll haggle for the lowest prices.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"caskur, take a look at this.



Researcher exposes money trail behind U.S.-based campaign to kill the oilsands

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/corbella-vivian-krause-should-become-a-household-name-across-canada">https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-ne ... oss-canada">https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/corbella-vivian-krause-should-become-a-household-name-across-canada




The US are huge consumers of oil.



The article demonizers conservationists. I would like to see more evidence other than an article claiming they are being funded by the USA company profiteering from oil. Having said that, countries relying on their mining resources have their hands tied.



The USA have a HUGE military to support, they're not going to be changing their ways any time in the near future. They'll haggle for the lowest prices.

You didn't read that article at all. It exposes a massive billiomaire financed conspiracy and fraud against Canadian oil by billionaires who don't want competition from Canadian oil which has the highest social and environmental standards in the world.

caskur

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"caskur, take a look at this.



Researcher exposes money trail behind U.S.-based campaign to kill the oilsands

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/corbella-vivian-krause-should-become-a-household-name-across-canada">https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-ne ... oss-canada">https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/corbella-vivian-krause-should-become-a-household-name-across-canada




The US are huge consumers of oil.



The article demonizers conservationists. I would like to see more evidence other than an article claiming they are being funded by the USA company profiteering from oil. Having said that, countries relying on their mining resources have their hands tied.



The USA have a HUGE military to support, they're not going to be changing their ways any time in the near future. They'll haggle for the lowest prices.

You didn't read that article at all. It exposes a massive billiomaire financed conspiracy and fraud against Canadian oil by billionaires who don't want competition from Canadian oil which has the highest social and environmental standards in the world.


Yeah I read it but I don't fully comprehend it.



It lost me here...



"Krause warned the crowd that gathered on the Tsuut'ina Nation, on the western edge of Calgary, that she would be showing rather boring slides that prove that millions of dollars in payments from multibillion-dollar U.S. charitable foundations are being made to Canadian environmental groups annually, "because, frankly, if I was just to tell you who paid whom and how much, it's hard to believe. It comes off like a tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory."
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

caskur

The article also says this,...



quote: "Eight years ago, while researching who was behind an unscientific, misinformation campaign against farmed Canadian salmon, Krause "came across these three little words: Tar Sands Campaign" in the tax forms of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund (which, ironically, made its billions from oil and gas)."



As a conservationist myself, false information about the environment worries me. Actually it GREATLY upsets me.



Both sides of politics are known to corrupt information.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"The article also says this,...



quote: "Eight years ago, while researching who was behind an unscientific, misinformation campaign against farmed Canadian salmon, Krause "came across these three little words: oil sands Campaign" in the tax forms of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund (which, ironically, made its billions from oil and gas)."



As a conservationist myself, false information about the environment worries me. Actually it GREATLY upsets me.



Both sides of politics are known to corrupt information.

I believe you are a genuine conservationist..



The international billionaires trying to keep Canada's oil from competing with OPEC, the USA, and Russia are not.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"The article also says this,...



quote: "Eight years ago, while researching who was behind an unscientific, misinformation campaign against farmed Canadian salmon, Krause "came across these three little words: oil sands Campaign" in the tax forms of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund (which, ironically, made its billions from oil and gas)."



As a conservationist myself, false information about the environment worries me. Actually it GREATLY upsets me.



Both sides of politics are known to corrupt information.

I believe you are a genuine conservationist..



The international billionaires trying to keep Canada's oil from competing with OPEC, the USA, and Russia are not.

The global environmental movement is about consolidating money and power. Particularly as it relates to climate change. But, I do not question caskur's commtment to the cause.

Thiel

At the macro level, I do not trust the environmental movement. I don't trust large scale top down NGO's.
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Anonymous

Your "green energy" may not be so green after all: rare earth elements used in solar panels and wind turbines are highly polluting



Renewable energy is taking the world by storm, as "greenies" everywhere welcome with open arms the latest iterations of solar panels, wind turbines, and other "clean" energy alternatives to traditional fossil fuels like coal. But one of the things that many people who believe in "green energy" fail to realize is that many of their favorite technologies require the use of so-called rare earth minerals and other elements that involve dirty mining and slave-like labor conditions.

A bulk of the world's rare earth elements (REEs) comes from two places: China and Africa. Chinese REEs account for 95 percent of the world's supply, and reports indicate that the situation isn't pretty. Not only is the extraction of these minerals the exact opposite of "green" and "clean," but the folks tasked with performing the labor – and those who end up encountering much of the polluting byproducts – represent some of the world's most vulnerable.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-01-04-your-green-energy-may-not-be-so-green-after-all-heres-a-list-of-the-rare-elements-used-in-solar-panels-and-wind-turbines-along-with-their-countries-of-origin.html">https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-01-04- ... rigin.html">https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-01-04-your-green-energy-may-not-be-so-green-after-all-heres-a-list-of-the-rare-elements-used-in-solar-panels-and-wind-turbines-along-with-their-countries-of-origin.html