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lol, China is scared of little potato.
gay, conservative and proud

Anonymous

No kidding.



Beijing Groomed Telecom Giant Huawei to Expand China's Global Influence: Report



Through heavy state subsidies and international lobbying efforts, Beijing has embedded Huawei's technology in a wide array of infrastructure around the world. However, Western governments are becoming increasingly aware of the security threats, including data gathering and industrial espionage, allegations that Huawei has repeatedly denied.



Illicit Data Collecting and Espionage

Many Chinese state-owned telecommunications companies are heavily subsidized—especially Huawei—to win overseas contracts, the report said. Consequently, Huawei has brought legitimate security concerns to countries using its technology, or where its employees carry out clandestine operations.



In 2019, the United States found that Huawei had access to 4G network equipment through backdoors installed in its system since 2009. The details were disclosed to the United Kingdom and Germany the same year.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/beijing-grooms-telecom-giant-huawei-to-expand-chinas-global-influence-report_4024627.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-10-05&mktids=6b5f60ed4f77f63f07bf743a69dcd1f0&est=WSnjxmwvkhbFD%2F1GpxmPqlc3OJSkbkh5G79%2ByvC2Kx5ylcbVOHRQmQFPyxOppXd6Gg%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morni ... d6Gg%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/beijing-grooms-telecom-giant-huawei-to-expand-chinas-global-influence-report_4024627.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-10-05&mktids=6b5f60ed4f77f63f07bf743a69dcd1f0&est=WSnjxmwvkhbFD%2F1GpxmPqlc3OJSkbkh5G79%2ByvC2Kx5ylcbVOHRQmQFPyxOppXd6Gg%3D%3D

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=422471 time=1633445196 user_id=114
No kidding.



Beijing Groomed Telecom Giant Huawei to Expand China's Global Influence: Report



Through heavy state subsidies and international lobbying efforts, Beijing has embedded Huawei's technology in a wide array of infrastructure around the world. However, Western governments are becoming increasingly aware of the security threats, including data gathering and industrial espionage, allegations that Huawei has repeatedly denied.



Illicit Data Collecting and Espionage

Many Chinese state-owned telecommunications companies are heavily subsidized—especially Huawei—to win overseas contracts, the report said. Consequently, Huawei has brought legitimate security concerns to countries using its technology, or where its employees carry out clandestine operations.



In 2019, the United States found that Huawei had access to 4G network equipment through backdoors installed in its system since 2009. The details were disclosed to the United Kingdom and Germany the same year.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/beijing-grooms-telecom-giant-huawei-to-expand-chinas-global-influence-report_4024627.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-10-05&mktids=6b5f60ed4f77f63f07bf743a69dcd1f0&est=WSnjxmwvkhbFD%2F1GpxmPqlc3OJSkbkh5G79%2ByvC2Kx5ylcbVOHRQmQFPyxOppXd6Gg%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morni ... d6Gg%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/beijing-grooms-telecom-giant-huawei-to-expand-chinas-global-influence-report_4024627.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-10-05&mktids=6b5f60ed4f77f63f07bf743a69dcd1f0&est=WSnjxmwvkhbFD%2F1GpxmPqlc3OJSkbkh5G79%2ByvC2Kx5ylcbVOHRQmQFPyxOppXd6Gg%3D%3D

They are at war to bring our way of life to heel. They are winning every battle too.

Anonymous

I expect coal power will make a return at least temporarily much to the chagrin of climate alramists.



How a Growing Energy Crisis Hobbles China[/b



How seriously does the arrival of "peak coal" in China impact its strategic viability?



China's coal reserves, the essence of its energy security, are now in decline.



More than half of China's energy is delivered by coal. Domestic oil production had already peaked in 2013. In 2020, China produced 3.9 million barrels a day of domestic oil, but consumes 14.2 million barrels.



This arrival in 2021 of "peak coal" in China was forecast in 2013 by Australian scientist David Archibald, who noted in The Wentworth Report on Nov. 26: "Cheap coal has been the Chicom's [Chinese communist] source of strength, enabling them to threaten most of their neighbors and bully others as far away as Lithuania. But peak coal has arrived on schedule for the Chicoms and they are now staring into the abyss of rapidly declining coal production."



"Coal consumption at 4,000-million tonnes per annum is the energy equivalent of 50-million barrels of oil per day, which in turn is half of world daily oil consumption. The cost of resource extraction tends to rise strongly once half the resource is extracted. The Chicoms are halfway through their initial coal endowment, and are now entering a world of hurt," he wrote.



Archibald indicated that China could do what the West did in the 1950s and '60s: turn to nuclear power. However, despite its massive commitment to nuclear power stations, Beijing has not built enough reactors to compensate for the loss of domestic coal. And it would be difficult to build nuclear power stations at a sufficient rate to compensate for the decline in coal.



And he noted: "Apart from underwriting their export industry, cheap power from coal also keeps China fed. China uses 393 kg/hectare of nitrogen fertilizer to produce an average of six tonnes of grain per hectare. Nitrogenous fertilizer in China is made using coal as the energy source."



"Chicom coal production is now concentrated in three of [mainland] China's 23 provinces: Shanxi, Shaanxi, and Inner Mongolia. Production from other provinces in aggregate peaked a decade ago. China started importing coal once its own production costs rose above the price of imported coal. Imports have risen to about 10 percent of Chinese coal consumption.



rchibald noted that some coal reserves in Xinjiang were being developed, but that the region was too far from the demand centers on the east coast for transport by train. So three ultra-high voltage lines were built, operating on direct current. This technology has very low transmission losses.



He also noted that Xinjiang was also where China had expanded its silicon smelting industry to meet the global demand for photovoltaic panels. Making polysilicon wafers takes 117 kWh of power per kg. Some 45 percent of the world's polysilicon is now made in Xinjiang. Peak coal for China means that renewable energy will become too expensive for the rest of the world to install.



China's declining coal production makes it easier for the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) to claim that it is moving toward a reduction in carbon emissions by reducing coal mining. But Beijing has little choice in the matter. It will increase the rate of mining of what coal remains in mainland China, to stave off short-term problems.



The declining demand for steel on world markets and within China's own market—exacerbated by the present glut in steel—means that less coal will be needed for steel production. Again, this enables Beijing to portray its "climate change" commitments in a virtuous light, but it merely reflects a declining pace of economic activity in the country.



The chance for Xi Jinping to exploit this "virtue" of coal reduction could have been made at the recent COP26 conference on climate change held in Glasgow, Scotland, from Oct. 31 to Nov. 12, but it was not.



Xi was one of the major world leaders not to attend COP26. He was reluctant to leave China at a delicate time for the CCP and his own career. Xi was shoring up support for his re-election at the October 2022 20th Party Congress, so that he could win an unprecedented third term—essentially a lifetime term—as the CCP leader.



He was attempting that balancing act at a time when China was running out of the hard currency required to ensure continued strategic growth for the Party and the State. Xi has been attempting to project the image that communist China continues to be a "rising power" when, in fact, its economy has been in serious decline since about 2015.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/how-a-growing-energy-crisis-hobbles-china_4127651.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-12-01&mktids=e30ef0f7d84d955c395e117041d9cd7a&est=E6J%2BZZ9vt%2BXSe10%2BggZEUgNEaANTYl0YrxmD8xnEoHfVZPeKayqEdpg7TaFUzdAgXw%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morni ... AgXw%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/how-a-growing-energy-crisis-hobbles-china_4127651.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-12-01&mktids=e30ef0f7d84d955c395e117041d9cd7a&est=E6J%2BZZ9vt%2BXSe10%2BggZEUgNEaANTYl0YrxmD8xnEoHfVZPeKayqEdpg7TaFUzdAgXw%3D%3D


Anonymous

A Chinese state-run media disclosed that China's continued reliance on chip imports could be "fatal" to its automotive industry and national economy.



On Nov. 23, the state-run Xinhua News Agency reported that China's domestically produced automotive chips are primarily used in less complex vehicle components such as body electronics, while it relies heavily on imports for advanced chips used in complex vehicle features such as electronic stability control, in-vehicle networks, and advanced driver assistance systems.



The report said that China's "heavy reliance on import channels [for advanced chips] could fatally endanger its auto industry and national economy."

Bricktop

The West's dependence on Chinese factories could fatally effect our entire socio-economic survival.

cc

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431968 time=1640479579 user_id=1560
The West's dependence on Chinese factories could fatally effect our entire socio-economic survival.

Yes and I and I'm guessin you & Seoul  knew that from when it first started
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

I believe one of the reasons China wants Taiwan so because it's where most advanced semi conductors come from.

Bricktop

Quote from: cc post_id=431971 time=1640480044 user_id=88
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431968 time=1640479579 user_id=1560
The West's dependence on Chinese factories could fatally effect our entire socio-economic survival.

Yes and I and I'm guessin you & Seoul  knew that from when it first started


Years ago, when Western businesses closed their factories in the home countries to move to cheaper labour in China, I vocally predicted that their greed for more profit will end in tears for us all.



With a snap of their fingers, China could cut off supplies of many items and commodities we depend on every day. Whilst China may deny itslef western money, it is far better placed to ride the wave of disruption than we are.



The utterly stupid corporate dollar chasers have completely failed to understand China's culture and political ambition.



There is NOT a way in hell that the CCP did not carefully map out a transition to an industrial powerhouse feeding from capitalism without a clear picture of how they would politically capitalise on our utter naivety and greed.

cc

Agree 100 across the board - and yes I also saw it as the dumbest thing we could do from the gitgo
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=431979 time=1640481450 user_id=88
Agree 100 across the board - and yes I also saw it as the dumbest thing we could do from the gitgo

Both leftists and conservatives supported this.

cc

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=431981 time=1640484161 user_id=2015
Quote from: cc post_id=431979 time=1640481450 user_id=88
Agree 100 across the board - and yes I also saw it as the dumbest thing we could do from the gitgo

Both leftists and conservatives supported this.

That's true. Seems they both were suicidal .. like whytf make China a power .. not to mention do yourself a great deal of harm



It was mind boggling to figure why  .. then & predictable disaster now



Thinking a commie state would play nice is preposterous / stupidity personified ... and why give up jobs>> duh
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=431987 time=1640486015 user_id=88
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=431981 time=1640484161 user_id=2015
Quote from: cc post_id=431979 time=1640481450 user_id=88
Agree 100 across the board - and yes I also saw it as the dumbest thing we could do from the gitgo

Both leftists and conservatives supported this.

That's true. Seems they both were suicidal .. like whytf make China a power .. not to mention do yourself a great deal of harm



It was mind boggling to figure why  .. then & predictable disaster now



Thinking a commie state would play nice is preposterous / stupidity personified ... and why give up jobs>> duh

The powers lied, lied, lied. Anybody could see how this would turn out.