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cc

Everything is OK with you and me. I admire your apparent infinite courtesy. Good night Fash



Hey!! Sox won big time .. nice
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Everything is OK with you and me. I admire your apparent infinite courtesy. Good night Fash



Hey!! Sox won big time .. nice

Thank you Ms. CC, it is always a pleasure to see you here..



Sleep well.

 :)

Renee

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Of course not. And, your saying it has ZERO meaning. You have never seen one let alone read it .... and never will in order to maintain your  hokey "ignorance is bliss" status



You know less about islam than my dog ... then, to be fair, he ate a lot of one of my a Krannies ... prolly digested several verses



I guess it was the smell of my bacon strip bookmark that started him on it


 :lol:
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
I have to disagree with you Shen Li..



These ads are deliberately provocative..



You may be right about the Quran having many verses that incite hatred..



That is not enough reason to antagonize that religion and use public property to do it though..



I am a Christian and I would like to see more dialogue between Muslims and non Muslims.

Oh no, we wouldn't want to offend an ideology that commands X-tians like you be slaughtered. Grow a fucking backbone FFS! The Quran/Hadith are HATE literature. They incite violence against gays, women and infidels like you and I.

Romero

Fashionista isn't going to be slaughtered. You have Muslim friends and you're not going to be slaughtered. cc has an Islamic employee and she's not going to be slaughtered.



Muslims aren't evil people who want to slaughter everyone.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Romero"Fashionista isn't going to be slaughtered. You have Muslim friends and you're not going to be slaughtered. cc has an Islamic employee and she's not going to be slaughtered.



Muslims aren't evil people who want to slaughter everyone.

Islamic ideology commands that Fash be slaughtered.

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54



It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67



Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:

Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....




Thankfully I have Muslim friends who told me about the evil hatred that exists in the Quran/Hadith.

Renee

#126
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"Fashionista isn't going to be slaughtered. You have Muslim friends and you're not going to be slaughtered. cc has an Islamic employee and she's not going to be slaughtered.



Muslims aren't evil people who want to slaughter everyone.

Islamic ideology commands that Fash be slaughtered.

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54



It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67



Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:

Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....




Thankfully I have Muslim friends who told me about the evil hatred that exists in the Quran/Hadith.


But Romero seriously doubts that they are actual Muslims????  :lol:  I guess to him you have to be a literal follower of the teachings of the Quran in order to call yourself a Muslim.



I guess he thinks Christians who don't attend church every Sunday or don't read the bible all that often aren't real Christians either. I guess the concept of a practicing and non-practicing Christian or Muslim escapes him. Truthfully I think a lot of simple societal, social and economic concepts escape him.  :lol:
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Anonymous

Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"Fashionista isn't going to be slaughtered. You have Muslim friends and you're not going to be slaughtered. cc has an Islamic employee and she's not going to be slaughtered.



Muslims aren't evil people who want to slaughter everyone.

Islamic ideology commands that Fash be slaughtered.

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54



It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67



Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:

Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....




Thankfully I have Muslim friends who told me about the evil hatred that exists in the Quran/Hadith.


But Romero seriously doubts that they are actual Muslims????  :lol:  I guess to him you have to be a literal follower of the teachings of the Quran in order to call yourself a Muslim.

If you are not oppressing women, gays and killing us infidels you just don't get Romero's official stamp that you are indeed a good Muslim. :lol:

Anonymous

Not a bad article by Lorne Gunter. I disagree with the last part, but he is spot on that denying that their is NOT a problem with honour killings in the Islamic ideology is moving away from a solution rather than towards one.
QuoteIt's not outrageous that Edmonton Transit removed ads from its buses reaching out to Muslim girls and women who might be under threat of honour killing by their families.



What's outrageous is the politically correct claptrap that's being used not only to justify removing the five ads, but to deny there is a problem with Muslim honour killings in general.



Frankly, it's surprising the ads were put up in buses in the first place. Singling out an identifiable group was bound to be controversial. Might as well have framed each of the $500 ads with flashing neon lights that exclaimed, "Look here! Look here!"



Transit officials and the company that places the ads for them backed into this one butts-first.



The ads were paid for by the Stop Islam of America campaign of the American Freedom Defense Initiative, a New York based organization run by anti-Sharia law activist and author Pamela Geller.



Each ad shows the photos of seven young Muslim women. The text reads "Muslim Girls Honor Killed by Their Families," then asks "Is your family threatening you? Is there a Fatwa on Your Head?" Finally, contact information where help can be found is given.



Predictably, the opposition to the ads – led by Coun. Amarjeet Sohi and a handful of local Muslims – has attempted to deny there is a particular problem with honour killing among Muslims.



Sohi professed to be "deeply disappointed" when he learned about the ads. He complained "These ads targeted one particular group. Honour killings is a very serious concern in every community and we need to speak up against it, but ... singling out one particular group, does not help resolve it."



That's where the argument against the ads goes off the rails. By denying that Muslim honour killing is a particular problem, Sohi and the others are the ones standing in the way of resolving the problem. Denial of a problem is not the first step towards solving it. Quite the opposite.



To be sure, there are honour killings in communities other than the Muslim community. In Canada, there have been several high-profile honour killings by Indo-Canadians. But "in every community?" I don't recall a problem among Dutch-Canadians, for instance, or Presbyterian Canadians.



By insisting a problem is more widespread than it really is – that it is not a result of certain beliefs or cultural practices – we are actually moving away from a solution, not towards one.



Worldwide, Muslims commit over 90% of the 20,000 or more honour killings identified each year, according to research published in the Middle East Quarterly. Over half are motivated by a father's, husband's or brother's belief that a daughter, wife or sister has become "too Western." Also, over half involve torture before the fatal blow is struck.



Honour killings are a growing problem in Canada, so much so that this past spring the federal government gave the Canadian Council of Muslim Women a sizeable grant to study the extent of it and to propose solutions. They didn't give the money to the Council of Belgian Women or Baha'i Women.



The federal Tories also saw fit to condemn honour killings in the citizenship guide it gives to all new Canadians.



It would have been much smarter if the American sponsors of the ads had not singled out Muslim women. While internationally the percentage of honour killings committed by Muslims is over 90%, in Canada it's closer to two-thirds.



By concentrating solely on Muslim victims, the sponsors show they aren't truly horrified by honour killings, just the ones committed by Muslims.



The city would have no right to order the same ads taken down from private property. But the buses are city property.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/10/30/bus-ad-controversy-is-outrageous-political-correctness">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/10/30/b ... orrectness">http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/10/30/bus-ad-controversy-is-outrageous-political-correctness

Anonymous

I have no problem criticizing or even making fun of Islam or any other religion. You chose to believe it, so don't be surprised if someone that chooses not to believe does not share your enthusiasm for your particular brand of religion. After all, we still have free speech in Canada.



I don't know about posters on city property though. Post it on private property and it's nobody's business. Everyone is happy except for the zealots.