I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos

[deadskinmask]

why would that interest me? i'm not vaccinated.... i have nothing invested....

[Anonymous]

why would that interest me? i'm not vaccinated.... i have nothing invested....

I thought you might be interested in facts....here's some more in response to your article..



I've seen that claim before and it's been debunked many times.





Claim that COVID-19 vaccinated in UK are developing immunity problems is false



There is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines weaken the body's immune system.



See the sources for this fact-check

An article citing United Kingdom government reports raises alarms about the risk of AIDS, falsely claiming that COVID-19 vaccinations are degrading people's immune systems.



The article, by an author identified only as "a concerned reader," appeared on a website called The Exposé, which describes itself as an alternative to the U.K. government-owned BBC and "lying" mainstream media.



"UK Government reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are rapidly developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome," read the first part of the headline.



The post was flagged as part of Facebook's efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)



The Oct. 30 article began with claims that reports on COVID-19 cases show that "double-vaccinated 40- to 79-year-olds have now lost lost 50% of their immune system capability," and that 30- to 49-year-olds "will have zero COVID / viral defense at best, or a form of vaccine mediated acquired immunodeficiency syndrome at worst, by the first week in January."



The article adds: "Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability, certainly for COVID and most likely for viruses and certain cancers....Fully vaccinated 30- to 49-year-olds will have lost it by the first week in January. These people will then have no immune defence against Covid-19 at all."



A spokesperson for the UK Health Security Agency dismissed the claim, saying: "COVID-19 vaccines do not cause AIDS."



We found no evidence to support the claim that the vaccines weaken, let alone destroy, the body's immune system.



Here's what the latest Surveillance Report from the agency says about the vaccines' effectiveness in the U.K., which administers vaccines from Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca:



After a two-dose course, the vaccines are 65% to 90% effective in preventing symptomatic disease from the Delta variant, and 90% to 99% effective against hospitalization.



Rates of COVID-19 infection, hospitalization and death are substantially higher among unvaccinated people than among vaccinated people.



The effectiveness of the vaccines in preventing certain outcomes may wane over a period of several months. But the report contains no indication that the vaccines degrade the immune system overall.



Research in the U.S. — which uses vaccines from Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson — similarly shows that the vaccines do not degrade the immune system.



Earlier in October, we rated False a claim that a person's immune system "tanks" after their second COVID-19 vaccine dose. On the contrary, we found that research from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and others show that the vaccines boost the body's immune response. For example, one Aug. 13 CDC report found that people who had been infected with COVID-19 in 2020 got a dramatic boost in virus-killing immune cells later because they were vaccinated.



Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center and an attending physician in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, told PolitiFact that the suggestion that the immune system is weakened by the COVID-19 shots rather than bolstered by them isn't supported by clinical trial data, which includes thousands of people. "This wasn't observed in any of the phase 3 trials, where complete blood counts were obtained," he said.



Other fact-checks reached the same conclusion.



The Associated Press rated false a claim that a study from the Francis Crick Institute in London found that Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine destroys a type of white blood cell called the T cell and weakens the immune system.



The AP found that the vaccine doesn't destroy T cells or weaken the immune system. On the contrary, it generates a strong T cell response and boosts immunity, according to experts.



Health Feedback also found no evidence to back the claim that COVID-19 vaccines weaken the immune system.



A claim that U.K. "government reports suggest the fully vaccinated are rapidly developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome" has no factual basis.



We rate it False.

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[deadskinmask]

fact checkers? like the ones who said Russian Collusion was 'totally true'? Hunters laptop was 'totally fake'? Lab leak theory was impossible? No fraud during 2020 elections? yeah.... fact checkers.... LMMFAO....

[Anonymous]

fact checkers? like the ones who said Russian Collusion was 'totally true'? Hunters laptop was 'totally fake'? Lab leak theory was impossible? No fraud during 2020 elections? yeah.... fact checkers.... LMMFAO....

Fact checkers like epidemiologists..



Now they don't make bitchute videos, but their little medicine hobby keeps them pretty busy..



There are lots of other sources that debunk VAIDS if you like..



Here's another one.



In reality, there's no such thing as VAIDS, and research shows the available COVID-19 vaccines provide recipients with increased protection against the coronavirus. "AIDS is a generalized body-wide compromise of a specific subset of immune cells (mostly CD4+ lymphocytes) caused specifically by infection with the HIV-1 virus," said Dr. Grant McFadden, director of the Biodesign Center for Immunotherapy, Vaccines and Virotherapy at Arizona State University.

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[deadskinmask]

sounds like doctors with vested interests in vaccines are arguing with doctors who have no vested interest in vaccines.... hmm.... i guess we're back to square one.... except that yall are on what? booster number two? i can't remember....

[deadskinmask]

i remember when 9 out of 10 doctors chose Pall Mall as their preferred cigarette.... and asbestos was great for baby blankets and such....

[Anonymous]

i remember when 9 out of 10 doctors chose Pall Mall as their preferred cigarette.... and asbestos was great for baby blankets and such....

And McDonald's Canada uses one hundred per cent Canadian beef..



Marketing gimmicks that had no scientific basis in reality, but most of us knew that.

[deadskinmask]

3 years from now - "DID YOU OR A LOVED ONE TAKE THE COVID VACCINE? I represent the law firm of Cheetum And Steele and you can join our class action lawsuit today".....

[deadskinmask]

i remember when 9 out of 10 doctors chose Pall Mall as their preferred cigarette.... and asbestos was great for baby blankets and such....

And McDonald's Canada uses one hundred per cent Canadian beef..



Marketing gimmicks that had no scientific basis in reality, but most of us knew that.

remember back when the vaccine made you 'completely immune to covid'? followed shortly by 'unable to transmit covid'? followed shortly by 'won't get sick from covid'? followed shortly by 'won't die from covid'? followed by 'maybe won't die from covid'? followed by 'yall come get some boosters NOW. covids coming'? i sure do.... science moves fast as fuck, boiiiiii....

[Anonymous]

i remember when 9 out of 10 doctors chose Pall Mall as their preferred cigarette.... and asbestos was great for baby blankets and such....

And McDonald's Canada uses one hundred per cent Canadian beef..



Marketing gimmicks that had no scientific basis in reality, but most of us knew that.

remember back when the vaccine made you 'completely immune to covid'? followed shortly by 'unable to transmit covid'? followed shortly by 'won't get sick from covid'? followed shortly by 'won't die from covid'? followed by 'maybe won't die from covid'? followed by 'yall come get some boosters NOW. covids coming'? i sure do.... science moves fast as fuck, boiiiiii....

I don't remember that....I remember ninety five per cent efficacy for Pfizer ninety four for Moderna and seventyy five-eighty for AZ and seventy five per cent for the new plant based vaccine that recently passed third stage trials in Canada..



But, vaccines are helping a lot and here is the data from BC to prove it.



Here's today's update from BC Health (which echos similar data from UK etc. etc. etc.)



Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 4-10 2021)



Not vaccinated: 281.3

Partially vaccinated: 84.4

Fully vaccinated: 33.1

[Anonymous]

3 years from now - "DID YOU OR A LOVED ONE TAKE THE COVID VACCINE? I represent the law firm of Cheetum And Steele and you can join our class action lawsuit today".....

There will be lawsuits in the US no matter what. That is a given.

[deadskinmask]

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[Anonymous]

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I believe all of us here are in agreement that Fauci is a pathological liar. I believe if you go to VF, Blurt and and asal still shill for that criminal.

[cc]

That critter has nothing to do with effectiveness nor reactions



A hokey Click Bate video designed for suckers has even less  to do with it or anything

Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 4-10 2021)



Not vaccinated: 281.3

Partially vaccinated: 84.4

Fully vaccinated: 33.1

That's a consistent ratio  with us in BC for past week per 100,000



Not vaccinated: 164

Fully vaccinated: 23

I do allow that some of both groups may not report





However, Hospitalizations are of course all reported here  - per 100,000

Not vaccinated: 25.0

Partially vaccinated: 1.5

[deadskinmask]

fauci is indeed a criminal and a liar.... and pfizer have an extensive record of criminal behavior and lying.... not to mention unethical business practices.... yet these ppl have 'complete trust' in the vaccine.... the cognitive dissonance is palpable here....