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Aryan

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Aka the jews...





I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

Who is Jewish now? True Dope? He has been called a lot of things, but Jewish was never one them.


No, the Biden administration...

Thiel

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Who is Jewish now? True Dope? He has been called a lot of things, but Jewish was never one them.


No, the Biden administration...

Biden is Catholic. Kamala Harris says she grew up attending Hindu temple and protestant church services.
gay, conservative and proud

Aryan

Are you folks really this misinformed?



Ok, have a truth bomb on me...



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Oerdin


Thiel

Biden and Harris do not practice Judaism. They do not Christianity either. If they were people of faith, so what. It's their mismanagement of domestic and foreign affairs that is weakening the United States.
gay, conservative and proud

Herman

Quote from: Oerdin post_id=484678 time=1669578026 user_id=3374
I to hope prices fall so I can buy a few more.

Is being a landlord worth it? I have buddies that own rental properties. Some say it's worth it, others say they are money pits.

Herman

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Biden and Harris do not practice Judaism. They do not Christianity either. If they were people of faith, so what. It's their mismanagement of domestic and foreign affairs that is weakening the United States.

I think Scouse is on the our side in opposing the rich elite prog agenda. He is against some of the crazy woke shit that is hollowing out the middle class. I am talking about mass uncontrolled immigration, making firearm ownership illegal, stopping cops from enforcing laws and using public education to indoctrinate kids that they are not male or female.



I don't know where he stands on climate emergency bullshit and not producing energy which is worse for working class folks in predominantly White countries than mass immigration.

Oerdin

I do have to wonder why we allow terrorists such as this to immigrate to western countries?  Everyone associated with this hateful school should have theor citizenship removed and be deported.  No acceptions.



Muslim school teaches children to sing Islamic militant song call for all Jewish people to be exterminated world wide.



https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2022/11/27/muslim-schoolchildren-in-london-sing-song-calling-for-massacre-of-jews/">https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2 ... e-of-jews/">https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2022/11/27/muslim-schoolchildren-in-london-sing-song-calling-for-massacre-of-jews/

DKG

Quote from: Herman post_id=484703 time=1669593562 user_id=3396
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I to hope prices fall so I can buy a few more.

Is being a landlord worth it? I have buddies that own rental properties. Some say it's worth it, others say they are money pits.

I don't own rental properties. But, the simple answer it is that it depends on the property's condition, the housing market and the size of the mortgage on the property.

DKG

Barely a month after granting himself new powers as China's potential leader for life, Xi Jinping is facing a wave of public anger of the kind not seen for decades, sparked by his "zero COVID" strategy that will soon enter its fourth year.



Demonstrators poured into the streets over the weekend in cities including Shanghai and Beijing, criticizing the policy, confronting police — and even calling for Xi to step down. Students at some universities also protested.



Most protesters focused their anger on restrictions that can confine families to their homes for months and have been criticized as neither scientific nor effective. Some complained the system is failing to respond to their needs.



China's stringent measures were originally accepted for minimizing deaths while other countries suffered devastating waves of infections, but that consensus has begun to fray in recent weeks.



While the ruling party says anti-coronavirus measures should be "targeted and precise" and cause the least possible disruption to people's lives, local officials are threatened with losing their jobs or other punishments if outbreaks occur. They have responded by imposing quarantines and other restrictions that protesters say exceed what the central government allows.

DKG

Socialists double down on tried and failed ideas.



How progressives' grand plans for subsidized housing have harmed African Americans

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/progressives-grand-plans-subsidized-housing-harmed-african-americans">https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/progres ... -americans">https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/progressives-grand-plans-subsidized-housing-harmed-african-americans

Whether it's called a housing project or 'Section 8' or affordable housing our government's housing policies have done much more harm than good



It goes by many names: affordable housing, public housing, housing choice vouchers, Section 8, low-income housing tax credit developments or simply "the projects."



But I'm here today to tell you that all of these housing policies, dating from the 1930s until the present day, have been and remain harmful, indeed especially harmful to the interests of African Americans. They have lured Black households into dependency and long-term poverty, rewarded single-parenthood and led to the gnawing gap in home ownership and wealth between White and Black households.



Our housing policies have had all these deleterious effects in a series of ways: by destroying Black neighborhoods filled with Black-owned businesses and homeowners but labeled as slums; by replacing them with public housing projects where no ownership was possible and Blacks were and are over-represented; by setting housing rules such that both increasing income and marriage are punished; and by defining affordable housing as subsidized rentals rather than small, privately-owned homes whose ownership builds wealth.



I'll take these series of mistakes one at a time.



Let's start by going back to the Franklin Roosevelt administration and the National Housing Act of 1937.  The progressives of the New Deal were convinced that the private housing market was doomed to fail the majority of the population—and that government should step in to build and manage replacement housing called public housing.



First lady Eleanor Roosevelt pushed especially hard for housing projects for African Americans, convinced that the segregated Black neighborhoods of that era needed to be replaced.  She even came to Detroit to cut the ribbon on the first public housing project,

named for Frederick Douglas.



But housing progressives utterly misjudged what they were replacing.



Although we are often told that Black neighborhoods were substandard areas owned by White slumlords, Census records tell a different story.



In Detroit, the Douglas Houses and later its companion the Brewster Houses, replaced a neighborhood known as "Black Bottom" (for its soil not its race) that was home to no less than 300 Black-owned businesses, a significant percentage of one, two and three-family homeowners, a thriving branch of the Urban League and other self-help groups, and, of course, many churches—including the Bethel AME, led by the Rev. C.L. Franklin.



I don't have to tell this group who he, or his daughter [Aretha Franklin] was, or remind you of the power of his sermon, "The Eagle Stirreth Her Nest" and its message of the way strength and grace can overcome oppression.  



When the time arrives, the eagle takes her young upon her back out of the nest and then dives sharply down, leaving them learning to fly, only to swoop down to protect them if needed.



"God does us like that sometimes" when we are in too "comfortable a nest of circumstances" and "we don't bother to struggle, we get comfortable right where we are."



Even the history of slavery could, preached the Rev. Franklin, be overcome. Four hundred years was just a little while with God, he preached.



The great migration from South to North, he preached in his church, that would be demolished by the government, was God stirring the nest.  



Let me add this morning of the day when Yom Kippur begins that I'm proud, as a Jew, that Rev. Franklin found inspiration in the story of the Hebrews from the Book of Deuteronomy.



All the effort that built Black Bottom aimed toward that goal of struggling toward self-improvement—and was, by 1950, left as nothing more than vacant lots, a highway and high-rises which deteriorated so quickly that would have to be demolished themselves.



The same story of community destruction and high-rise hells would play out in African-American neighborhoods across the country:  East Harlem, Central Avenue in Cleveland, Desoto-Carr in St. Louis, Bronzeville in Chicago. In St. Louis, the high-rises of the Pruitt-Igoe projects won an architectural award when they opened in 1956—and were literally imploded in 1971.



What should Mrs. Roosevelt have done instead?  Improvements to homes that lacked amenities, rather than tearing them down. A Fair Housing Law that would have permitted Black owners to move up and out, to be followed by a new generation of owners building wealth.



None of that happened until the Fair Housing Act of 1968, by which time Blacks would have long since been steered into the alleged reward of the projects.



Today, even as African Americans comprise 13 percent of the U.S. population, they are 48 percent of public and subsidized housing.



But isn't that a benefit? A way to reduce poverty?  No, just the opposite. Consider the rules which govern public housing and its close cousin Section 8 voucher housing, in which government pays most of the rent for a private apartment.



The poorest households get priority—and that means single-parent households, almost always single mothers, go to the head of the line. Today in public housing, only 4 percent of households are comprised of children with two parents.



We all know that the life prospects of low-income single parents are not positive. But even those who would seek to improve themselves are, instead, punished. By rule, subsidized tenants pay 30 percent of their income in rent.



That may sound like a good deal until you look closely: it means that if your income goes up, well so does your rent.  Who would ever sign a lease like that in the private market? It's not a ticket out of poverty but a shackle that keeps one in it.



All this affordable housing, this government benefit, remains a temptation, luring one into dependency. The promise of physical comfort distracts from the struggle that leads gradually to accomplishment and achievement.



The fact that some projects are new and yet to deteriorate should not distract us from their fundamental invitation to dependency. Here's a figure for you: the average time residents have spent in New York City public housing is 23 years. There are some residents who have lived their entire life in the projects.



The growth that comes with going to Home Depot to get the materials to do your own house repairs is denied them;  they are taught to be supplicants begging for basic services.



Where does that leave us today?  For one thing, we must signal to public officials that they need to stop doing anyone the false favor of trapping them in the gilded cage of subsidized housing. But what can be done to rebuild and restore neighborhoods, those marked by vacant lots and food deserts? History—the history of Black Bottom—needs to be our guide.



Rather than building high-rise apartments on those vacant lots, we need to make sure our local laws permit the construction of homes that local residents can afford naturally—because they are modest homes on small lots, starter houses, maybe two or three-families, maybe paying the mortgage by taking in lodgers.



Some of those homes should have storefronts on the ground floors, where grocery stores and small businesses such as barber shops can set up shop.

Blazor

Quote from: DKG post_id=484775 time=1669633802 user_id=3390
Socialists double down on tried and failed ideas.



How progressives' grand plans for subsidized housing have harmed African Americans

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/progressives-grand-plans-subsidized-housing-harmed-african-americans">https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/progres ... -americans">https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/progressives-grand-plans-subsidized-housing-harmed-african-americans

Whether it's called a housing project or 'Section 8' or affordable housing our government's housing policies have done much more harm than good



It goes by many names: affordable housing, public housing, housing choice vouchers, Section 8, low-income housing tax credit developments or simply "the projects."



But I'm here today to tell you that all of these housing policies, dating from the 1930s until the present day, have been and remain harmful, indeed especially harmful to the interests of African Americans. They have lured Black households into dependency and long-term poverty, rewarded single-parenthood and led to the gnawing gap in home ownership and wealth between White and Black households.



Our housing policies have had all these deleterious effects in a series of ways: by destroying Black neighborhoods filled with Black-owned businesses and homeowners but labeled as slums; by replacing them with public housing projects where no ownership was possible and Blacks were and are over-represented; by setting housing rules such that both increasing income and marriage are punished; and by defining affordable housing as subsidized rentals rather than small, privately-owned homes whose ownership builds wealth.



I'll take these series of mistakes one at a time.



Let's start by going back to the Franklin Roosevelt administration and the National Housing Act of 1937.  The progressives of the New Deal were convinced that the private housing market was doomed to fail the majority of the population—and that government should step in to build and manage replacement housing called public housing.



First lady Eleanor Roosevelt pushed especially hard for housing projects for African Americans, convinced that the segregated Black neighborhoods of that era needed to be replaced.  She even came to Detroit to cut the ribbon on the first public housing project,

named for Frederick Douglas.



But housing progressives utterly misjudged what they were replacing.



Although we are often told that Black neighborhoods were substandard areas owned by White slumlords, Census records tell a different story.



In Detroit, the Douglas Houses and later its companion the Brewster Houses, replaced a neighborhood known as "Black Bottom" (for its soil not its race) that was home to no less than 300 Black-owned businesses, a significant percentage of one, two and three-family homeowners, a thriving branch of the Urban League and other self-help groups, and, of course, many churches—including the Bethel AME, led by the Rev. C.L. Franklin.



I don't have to tell this group who he, or his daughter [Aretha Franklin] was, or remind you of the power of his sermon, "The Eagle Stirreth Her Nest" and its message of the way strength and grace can overcome oppression.  



When the time arrives, the eagle takes her young upon her back out of the nest and then dives sharply down, leaving them learning to fly, only to swoop down to protect them if needed.



"God does us like that sometimes" when we are in too "comfortable a nest of circumstances" and "we don't bother to struggle, we get comfortable right where we are."



Even the history of slavery could, preached the Rev. Franklin, be overcome. Four hundred years was just a little while with God, he preached.



The great migration from South to North, he preached in his church, that would be demolished by the government, was God stirring the nest.  



Let me add this morning of the day when Yom Kippur begins that I'm proud, as a Jew, that Rev. Franklin found inspiration in the story of the Hebrews from the Book of Deuteronomy.



All the effort that built Black Bottom aimed toward that goal of struggling toward self-improvement—and was, by 1950, left as nothing more than vacant lots, a highway and high-rises which deteriorated so quickly that would have to be demolished themselves.



The same story of community destruction and high-rise hells would play out in African-American neighborhoods across the country:  East Harlem, Central Avenue in Cleveland, Desoto-Carr in St. Louis, Bronzeville in Chicago. In St. Louis, the high-rises of the Pruitt-Igoe projects won an architectural award when they opened in 1956—and were literally imploded in 1971.



What should Mrs. Roosevelt have done instead?  Improvements to homes that lacked amenities, rather than tearing them down. A Fair Housing Law that would have permitted Black owners to move up and out, to be followed by a new generation of owners building wealth.



None of that happened until the Fair Housing Act of 1968, by which time Blacks would have long since been steered into the alleged reward of the projects.



Today, even as African Americans comprise 13 percent of the U.S. population, they are 48 percent of public and subsidized housing.



But isn't that a benefit? A way to reduce poverty?  No, just the opposite. Consider the rules which govern public housing and its close cousin Section 8 voucher housing, in which government pays most of the rent for a private apartment.



The poorest households get priority—and that means single-parent households, almost always single mothers, go to the head of the line. Today in public housing, only 4 percent of households are comprised of children with two parents.



We all know that the life prospects of low-income single parents are not positive. But even those who would seek to improve themselves are, instead, punished. By rule, subsidized tenants pay 30 percent of their income in rent.



That may sound like a good deal until you look closely: it means that if your income goes up, well so does your rent.  Who would ever sign a lease like that in the private market? It's not a ticket out of poverty but a shackle that keeps one in it.



All this affordable housing, this government benefit, remains a temptation, luring one into dependency. The promise of physical comfort distracts from the struggle that leads gradually to accomplishment and achievement.



The fact that some projects are new and yet to deteriorate should not distract us from their fundamental invitation to dependency. Here's a figure for you: the average time residents have spent in New York City public housing is 23 years. There are some residents who have lived their entire life in the projects.



The growth that comes with going to Home Depot to get the materials to do your own house repairs is denied them;  they are taught to be supplicants begging for basic services.



Where does that leave us today?  For one thing, we must signal to public officials that they need to stop doing anyone the false favor of trapping them in the gilded cage of subsidized housing. But what can be done to rebuild and restore neighborhoods, those marked by vacant lots and food deserts? History—the history of Black Bottom—needs to be our guide.



Rather than building high-rise apartments on those vacant lots, we need to make sure our local laws permit the construction of homes that local residents can afford naturally—because they are modest homes on small lots, starter houses, maybe two or three-families, maybe paying the mortgage by taking in lodgers.



Some of those homes should have storefronts on the ground floors, where grocery stores and small businesses such as barber shops can set up shop.


As someone who grew up in the projects, in Section 8 housing, I can tell you this is all true.



My Mom was on disability, on a fixed income. If anything changed, the rent would go up, and benefits would be lost or reduced. Sooooo, her boyfriend at the time, would have to sneak in at night, so the Landlord wouldnt catch him, and include his income. This is what any Man that worked and lived there did..... which wasnt many. The guys that lived there, and didnt work, would sell drugs, or steal shit from people to sell. For the most part, it was single Mom's, with kids that lived there.



They would even sell their food stamps, for half the price, to get money, to buy other things, like cigarettes, and fancy rims.



Even myself, at the age of 16, working, my income was counted. So Mom would ask me to quit my job, so she wouldnt lose her benefits and such. Then they would make me fill out all kinds of paperwork. Then I would go get another job, and only be able to work it a few months, before getting caught, and having to quit again. Me working, a job for minimum wage, would cause my Mom to lose almost everything.



My Mom didnt like that, and didnt think someone under 18 should have their income counted. Her reasoning was, "how else is someone suppose to get ahead enough, to get the hell outta here and get out on their own!". She got involved, and wrote to the governor, and some others. My Mom even made it front page of the newspaper, trying to advocate for a better solution.



It is a trap. They make you dependent, and if you try to do better, they punish you. Try and meet someone to take care of you, punished. My Mom never made it out. She was in Section 8 for 20 years before she died. A few years before that, the HUD program began, which she really tried for. It was basically a program, that allowed low income folks to get an actual home. She got approved, jus' a few months before she died.
I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Lokmar

Shit reminds me of a caseworker I know that had a case where a great grandma who's been on welfare all her life is raising her great grandkids while being paid by the state to do so. Her daughter and granddaughter were on the dole too. She also got paid to raise her grandkids who turned into bums also. Her daughter and granddaughter were drug bums.

Oerdin

Remember when leftists where claiming this freak was so great?  Yeah, he just got arrested on a felony.  



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Frood

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