So DSM, tell me more about this "once saved permanently saved" stuff

[Frood]

I say the same thing.

Then by default, no dude should ever suck a non-FGM axe wound...

Fair is fair...

[Lokmar]

Translation: religious weirdos sliced up your cock and now you fuck like a spastic, check.

No dipshit. The translation is that a non cheesy dick without a foreskin works at least as good as one with a foreskin.

Quit trying to act like you're Sara Maclaughlin on some holy anti religious crusade to save the dick cheese.

Fukin douchebag.

[Lokmar]

Then by default, no dude should ever suck a non-FGM axe wound...

Fair is fair...

Thats an asinine comparison. A vagina with a clit cut out doesnt experience an orgasm since the nerve endings are all gone. Its not even remotely the same.

FFS, have you even seen pics of what them dumb cunt muhzies to the vaginas of young girls? Its a wonder even half of them survive!

[Frood]

Thats an asinine comparison. A vagina with a clit cut out doesnt experience an orgasm since the nerve endings are all gone. Its not even remotely the same.

FFS, have you even seen pics of what them dumb cunt muhzies to the vaginas of young girls? Its a wonder even half of them survive!

Why is mutilating the genitals of one gender okay while attempting the same kind of thing on the opposite gender somehow barbaric?

Can't genital mutilation of any gender be equally barbaric?

And the irony is not lost on me regarding your dislike of trannies of either biological gender. 

[Garraty_47]

Ditto and the same with atheism or agnostics. Motherfuckers who have no moral anchor cant be trusted. I've worked with enough of them to know.

As a life-long atheist 90-95% of the people I've met and worked with were self-professed christians with varying levels of commitment to that cult and it proved this much to me:

Affiliation with a particular religious organization means fuckall in terms of whether or not someone is honest, trustworthy, and sane. Fuck. All.

Observing how zealous a particular person was made it easier to predict levels of insanity though, as the two characteristics have a roughly equal correlation. Not a one-size-fits-all situation... but pretty damn close.

[Lokmar]

Why is mutilating the genitals of one gender okay while attempting the same kind of thing on the opposite gender somehow barbaric?

Can't genital mutilation of any gender be equally barbaric?

And the irony is not lost on me regarding your dislike of trannies of either biological gender. 

Once again, removing a foreskin is in no way equally as consequential as what is done to muhzie women.

Removal of a foreskin results in a cleaner situation for the man. They performed what I'll call the "new version" of this on my 2 boys younger where honestly, it doesnt look like they trimmed 1/4 of the foreskin off. I was constantly after them 2 to clean their dicks when they were little. The youngests was stubborn and wouldnt keep after it and would complain about "problems down there". I sure as fuck wasnt going to constantly clean it but I guess I should have threatened to cut it off like some crazed mullah. I just told him his dick was rotting off. Eventually, he started to clean it I guess. Either that or he's got a stumpy dick.

I'm pretty pissed at their doctor for not doing a proper circ. Doing it the way they did was useless. I'll be sure to tell anyone who's having a boy to avoid docs like this.

PS, I'd kill every faggit on the planet if it was legal.

[Lokmar]

As a life-long atheist 90-95% of the people I've met and worked with were self-professed christians with varying levels of commitment to that cult and it proved this much to me:

Affiliation with a particular religious organization means fuckall in terms of whether or not someone is honest, trustworthy, and sane. Fuck. All.

Observing how zealous a particular person was made it easier to predict levels of insanity though, as the two characteristics have a roughly equal correlation. Not a one-size-fits-all situation... but pretty damn close.

And everyone I've worked around that was a self proclaimed atheist came off as a serial killer.

Thats not to say that the so called "Christian" ones were all good. Some of those assholes should have been burned at the stake too. Its simply that I've found that unless they're sociopaths, the average person with religious moral groundings is more likely to have limits on their behavior.

[Frood]

Once again, removing a foreskin is in no way equally as consequential as what is done to muhzie women.

Removal of a foreskin results in a cleaner situation for the man. They performed what I'll call the "new version" of this on my 2 boys younger where honestly, it doesnt look like they trimmed 1/4 of the foreskin off. I was constantly after them 2 to clean their dicks when they were little. The youngests was stubborn and wouldnt keep after it and would complain about "problems down there". I sure as fuck wasnt going to constantly clean it but I guess I should have threatened to cut it off like some crazed mullah. I just told him his dick was rotting off. Eventually, he started to clean it I guess. Either that or he's got a stumpy dick.

I'm pretty pissed at their doctor for not doing a proper circ. Doing it the way they did was useless. I'll be sure to tell anyone who's having a boy to avoid docs like this.

PS, I'd kill every faggit on the planet if it was legal.

If removing a piece of human genital flesh was cleaner, evolution would have already...and thousands of years before.

Circumcision is a relatively new phenomenon to Western societies.

And it's a genital mutilation cult violating non-consenting newborns.

You can't have it both ways. If FGM isn't OK in your book, neither can MGM be.

Makes you look like an unhinged fanatic.

Not a good look....

[Lokmar]

If removing a piece of human genital flesh was cleaner, evolution would have already...and thousands of years before.

Circumcision is a relatively new phenomenon to Western societies.

And it's a genital mutilation cult violating non-consenting newborns.

You can't have it both ways. If FGM isn't OK in your book, neither can MGM be.

Makes you look like an unhinged fanatic.

Not a good look....

Your goal post is not a good look. Its completely unreasonable to view both as equals in any way shape or form.

I've got boys who've had both methods so I speak from experience. Unless you are constantly after them to pull the skin back when bathing, little kids will have hygiene issues. No doubt once they got older and couldnt keep their hands off it, it was better kept clean.

I freely admit I am "having it both ways" by your standards. I will continue to do so unashamedly. The FACT! still remains though that a circumcised penis still functions normally while a circumcised vagina does not. Neither I nor my oldest boy were victimized by what was done to us out of the desire to keep us clean. However, my younger boys were victimized by their pediatrician not to mention that we were all defrauded as to what would be done to them in regards to circumcision.

The doctor never explained that he wouldnt be performing a traditional circ. I seriously thought about suing him when my youngest had issues to the point where I literally had to make the youngest pull the skin back and thoroughly wash it properly while he cried his ass off because of the pain. This happened several times. I guarantee you, NOT having a proper circ was far far far more traumatic for him because of the issues he had. I've also discussed having it corrected with them if they continue to have problems as adults.

Comparing women to men circs as the same makes you look uneducated and unreasonable. Seriously.

[deadskinmask]

removing  a foreskin is no different than removing an appendix.... the appendix was just an additional filter for the body.... now that our food and water is of a consistently cleaner grade we no longer need it.... if you're in a position that your foreskin or appendix is a necessary part of life then you're just nasty as fuck....

[Garraty_47]

Thats not to say that the so called "Christian" ones were all good.

Of course you can't say that because it's patently untrue.

The reason it's untrue is because religiosity isn't magic; it doesn't externally imbue anyone with goodness, character, or morality. It's a checkbox on their profile:

Favorite Color: red
Favorite Ice Cream: neopolitan
Favorite Religion: <insert probably one of the abrahamic death cults>
Favorite Musical Genre: whatever's popular

It doesn't, in and of itself, mean anything.

Any influence on an individual's behavior comes not from which label they decided to stick on their forehead but from decisions and resolutions the individual adopts in their own mind. That same process of transformational thinking is very much available to atheists as well... they just get to skip all the extraneous baggage that comes with internalizing a dogmatic worldview.

We're fundamentally the same person, you and I. The same basic physical structure. The same biochemical systems keeping us alive and allowing us to do what we call "thinking". The same vulnerabilities to extreme heat or cold and certain minerals/compounds.

We simply made different choices.
It's not supernatural or miraculous.
One of us followed a particular path, the other chose a different one.

One of the great things about being an atheist is that I can not only accept that concept but embrace it. Whereas your conditioning, judging by your previous statements, demands you condemn those ideas even violently merely for not aligning well enough with your chosen religion's doctrines.

I wish you well and a long happy life but I would never want to trade places with you.

[Trump’s Niece]

Vit, are you circumcised?

[Lokmar]

Of course you can't say that because it's patently untrue.

The reason it's untrue is because religiosity isn't magic; it doesn't externally imbue anyone with goodness, character, or morality. It's a checkbox on their profile:

Favorite Color: red
Favorite Ice Cream: neopolitan
Favorite Religion: <insert probably one of the abrahamic death cults>
Favorite Musical Genre: whatever's popular

It doesn't, in and of itself, mean anything.

Any influence on an individual's behavior comes not from which label they decided to stick on their forehead but from decisions and resolutions the individual adopts in their own mind. That same process of transformational thinking is very much available to atheists as well... they just get to skip all the extraneous baggage that comes with internalizing a dogmatic worldview.

We're fundamentally the same person, you and I. The same basic physical structure. The same biochemical systems keeping us alive and allowing us to do what we call "thinking". The same vulnerabilities to extreme heat or cold and certain minerals/compounds.

We simply made different choices.
It's not supernatural or miraculous.
One of us followed a particular path, the other chose a different one.

One of the great things about being an atheist is that I can not only accept that concept but embrace it. Whereas your conditioning, judging by your previous statements, demands you condemn those ideas even violently merely for not aligning well enough with your chosen religion's doctrines.

I wish you well and a long happy life but I would never want to trade places with you.

I'd say you people have it better than you've ever had in Western civilization. Compared to 120 years ago, Christianty holds drastically less sway over society, not that society is any better for it.

[deadskinmask]

organized religion is how satan infiltrated and corrupted the church.... why are so many churches "embracing covid restrictions and promoting vaccines".... why are so many churches "embracing troon culture and mingling with the lgbtq sodomites".... why are so many "sex abuse" allegations coming from and hidden by the "religious" sector.... i consider myself a follower of Jesus.... BUT how you live your life  is of no concern to me.... i may ask you if you've considered Jesus.... but if your answer is "NO", that suits me down to the fuckin ground....

[Garraty_47]

Vit, are you circumcised?

Yes, but if given the choice I wouldn't have been.