So DSM, tell me more about this "once saved permanently saved" stuff

[Garraty_47]

you're words on a screen, chief.... you fall into the same category as all those handsome millionaires and zimbabwe princes.... ppl are willing to say ANYTHING "contrary" to whats being discussed.... please don't ever mistake your opinion as anything but hypothetical....

Congrats; you've convinced me.
This entire conversation has been pointless and a waste of time.

<wanders off>

[deadskinmask]

oh, no.... you mean we didn't "cure cancer and bring world peace"??? i'm so mad.... 

[Adolf Oliver Bush]

You guys still arguing about circumcision? Lmao

I'm not arguing, Lokmar can fuck like a spastic for all I care, it's no skin off my dick.

[Biggie Smiles]

I am believer, but I am not a fundamentalist. But, I do know numerous passages of Scripture declare the fact that, as an act of God, salvation is secure such as this one.

Believers are born again (regenerated) when they believe (John 3:3; Titus 3:5). For a Christian to lose his salvation, he would have to be un-regenerated. The bible gives no evidence that the new birth can be taken away.

With that context in mind how do you explain Matthew 24:13 "he who endures to the end is the one who will saved" while maintaining consistency with your belief?

[Odinson]

[Frood]

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Yep,AGREED, and the complete night and day of that comparison illustrates the difference between comparing a circumcision to having a whole ass clit cut out.

FFS man. Get a grip!

The clitoris and foreskin are living flesh, not toenails or hair, and neither are required for procreation.

It should also be said that foreskins have  some pleasurable nerve endings, like the clitoris.

You fail to address how one ritualistic gender mutilation is OK, and the other isn't.

Unless you're saying the creator made a massive mistake and male mammals are under perpetual recall...

[Lokmar]

I'm not arguing, Lokmar can fuck like a spastic for all I care, it's no skin off my dick.

But NO YUO.

[Lokmar]

I
The clitoris and foreskin are living flesh, not toenails or hair, and neither are required for procreation.

It should also be said that foreskins have  some pleasurable nerve endings, like the clitoris.

You fail to address how one ritualistic gender mutilation is OK, and the other isn't.

Unless you're saying the creator made a massive mistake and male mammals are under perpetual recall...

There are 2 reasons in the west to get a circumcision:
1. Because it was handed down tradition as a sign of obedience to God
2. Because of hygiene

My personal examination of God's Laws on mankind, not that an ant like me is worthy to do such a thing, has found them to be for our own betterment. Even things such as not eating pork, which I find to be particularly delicious, is for our own good.

Circumcision is not mutilation. my dick and hundreds of millions of others work just fine without a foreskin. There is no magic nerve ending in a foreskin that makes orgasm any less pleasurable when its gone. You dudes sound like some rabid MGTOW types, looking to steal some victimization away from women that have ACTUALLY been butchered.

The clit and head of the penis have shitloads of nerve endings. The foreskin does not.

I'm not a victim. My 2 kids that suffered, albeit not greatly, with raw dick heads because of cheese are not exactly victims either although they were cheated out of both the sign of obedience to God AND continued hygiene problems as children and as I said, the youngest most of all.

Most of this stupidity comes from moronic gaytheists looking to un-God things. They want to un-God the government, un-God money, un-God dicks, un-God natural human rights.

Fuk those dudes.

[Frood]

Obedience to your God is second guessing his creations by mutilating small children? 


Just admit that you're part of a Lob Off Cult... 

[Garraty_47]

"I wuz hit on the skull with a lead pipe and I turned out jest fine! Everbuddy should get hit on the skull by a lead pipe at least once; it builds character dangit!"

[Lokmar]

Obedience to your God is second guessing his creations by mutilating small children? 


Just admit that you're part of a Lob Off Cult... 

Absolutely. If I have to give up some useless foreskin out of respect for God and STILL had a cheesy dick, I'd do it.

Having a clean dick is just a bonus really!!!!!

I am a PROUD member of the lob off "cult"!!!!!!

[Lokmar]

"I wuz hit on the skull with a lead pipe and I turned out jest fine! Everbuddy should get hit on the skull by a lead pipe at least once; it builds character dangit!"

Oh yea? Is there a health benefit to being hit in the head with a lead pipe?...cause there is a demonstrable benefit to circumcision.   

[Frood]

Absolutely. If I have to give up some useless foreskin out of respect for God and STILL had a cheesy dick, I'd do it.

Having a clean dick is just a bonus really!!!!!

I am a PROUD member of the lob off "cult"!!!!!!

Sounds more like disrespect for your maker...

You're basically calling your creator incompetent.   

[Frood]

Oh yea? Is there a health benefit to being hit in the head with a lead pipe?...cause there is a demonstrable benefit to circumcision.   

Yet you've said you had cheese dick before and after...

Bit of soap and warm water, mate... basic hygiene with no barbaric genital mutilations needed.

Baby Jeebus would agree.

[Lokmar]

Sounds more like disrespect for your maker...

You're basically calling your creator incompetent.   

Explain.