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Started by Herman, July 15, 2024, 09:49:49 PM

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Quote from: Reggie Essent on July 15, 2024, 11:45:04 PMI think only taxpayers should vote.  You don't pay any taxes, you don't get a say.
I think I love you.

Reggie Essent

Quote from: Shen Li on July 15, 2024, 11:46:43 PMI think I love you.


Well, it only makes sense ...

Oh, and the tax thing too. ;)
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Biggie Smiles

Quote from: Reggie Essent on July 15, 2024, 11:45:04 PMI think only taxpayers should vote.  You don't pay any taxes, you don't get a say.
If illegals were required and forced to pay at the same rates that I am I wouldn't even mind if they voted with or without citizenship.

I don't think being born here means as much as paying into the system with your own blood, sweat and tears and then see how much they will be for all of these entitlement programs.

Reggie Essent

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 15, 2024, 11:56:08 PMIf illegals were required and forced to pay at the same rates that I am I wouldn't even mind if they voted with or without citizenship.

I don't think being born here means as much as paying into the system with your own blood, sweat and tears and then see how much they will be for all of these entitlement programs.

Well, to further refine it.  I say that if you work for the government, you don't get to vote in any election regarding the government you work for. (Feds don't get to vote in Federal elections, State employees don't get to vote in State elections and local government employees don't get to vote in local elections.)

It's a clear conflict of interest.

It is no coincidence that excluding the military, well over 90% of all government employees, Federal, State and Local, are registered Democrats.  The Party of, by and for government.
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Quote from: Reggie Essent on July 16, 2024, 12:10:58 AMWell, to further refine it.  I say that if you work for the government, you don't get to vote in any election regarding the government you work for. (Feds don't get to vote in Federal elections, State employees don't get to vote in State elections and local government employees don't get to vote in local elections.)

It's a clear conflict of interest.

It is no coincidence that excluding the military, well over 90% of all government employees, Federal, State and Local, are registered Democrats.  The Party of, by and for government.

100%

anyone leeching off the government tit for their continued existence should have no say in how it functions. Clear conflict of interest as you will have such parasites voting in whatever direction must ensures the continuation of their worthless existence.
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Quote from: Reggie Essent on July 15, 2024, 11:41:24 PMI guess I mean small C then.  Kinda like how I call myself a small L libertarian to differentiate my leanings from the whackadoodle Libertarian Party.

I've just noticed that working folks have been leaning Republican for a long, long time, even though the Leftist filth still claim they're for "the middle class."

That sure explains all those Hollywood fundraisers.

I prefer the term Voluntaryist.
Blahhhhhh...

Lokmar

Quote from: Reggie Essent on July 16, 2024, 12:10:58 AMWell, to further refine it.  I say that if you work for the government, you don't get to vote in any election regarding the government you work for. (Feds don't get to vote in Federal elections, State employees don't get to vote in State elections and local government employees don't get to vote in local elections.)

It's a clear conflict of interest.

It is no coincidence that excluding the military, well over 90% of all government employees, Federal, State and Local, are registered Democrats.  The Party of, by and for government.

Having several friends and relatives in government, I still agree with you. I will be sure to share this with all of them to further ostracize myself from my family and friends!  :popcorn:
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Quote from: Reggie Essent on July 16, 2024, 12:10:58 AMWell, to further refine it.  I say that if you work for the government, you don't get to vote in any election regarding the government you work for. (Feds don't get to vote in Federal elections, State employees don't get to vote in State elections and local government employees don't get to vote in local elections.)

It's a clear conflict of interest.

It is no coincidence that excluding the military, well over 90% of all government employees, Federal, State and Local, are registered Democrats.  The Party of, by and for government.
It is the same in Canada. Powerful public sector unions spend a lot of money on Conservative attack ads.

Public sector unions themselves are problematic. There is nobody representing the owners of the money(us). The government is looking out for their career interests, not what is best for taxpayers.
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Quote from: Herman on July 15, 2024, 09:49:49 PMBecause he is the first presidential candidate ever to campaign on behalf of working men and women.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/09/us/politics/biden-donors-fund-raising.html
In the 24 hours after his conviction in May on 34 felony counts, Mr. Trump's campaign stoked its small donor base, raising nearly $53 million and shattering online records for Republicans. The haul helped him close a fund-raising gap and pull ahead of Mr. Biden, who had maintained a financial advantage through most of the campaign.

The democRATs are scared shitlessw their elitist billionaire paymasters and Hollywood millionaires ain't paying the bills they think Biden will lose.
One thing about wealthy donors. They do not financially support losing candidates. They can see that without some pretty extreme cheating in Dem districts, Biden will lose this election. They will not throw good money after bad.
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Quote from: Shen Li on July 15, 2024, 10:37:26 PMThe wealthiest ZIP codes in America are solidly Democratic.

For years, affluent and college-educated voters, mostly white, had been the base of the Republican Party. Exit polls showed Republicans winning college graduates with high incomes nationally from 1988 to 2004, and again in 2012.

That all changed under Trump. Blue collar workers who used to vote Democratic, supported Trump in 2016, 2020 and again this election cycle.

Conservatism is dead, dead, dead everywhere in the Western world. From the National Rally in France to the Danish People's Party, to the Brothers of Italy Party, nationalist, anti-globalist, anti-immigration, pseudo-socialist parties are in and small government, but globalist, anti-socialist conservative parties are toast.

The transformation of the Republican party under Trump has been incredible. So many of the old guard GOP would rather help the Dems sabotage the new GOP rather than have anything to do with coal miners from West Virginia or steel workers from West3ern Pennsylvania. Trump gave them a voice when Dems and old guard Republicans pretended they didn't exist.

Fiscal conservatism is still alive and well in East Asia though. The PAP in Singapore is conservative.
The Democrats lost voters without university degrees. They have gained the wealthy elites, especially now that they don't have a traditional Republican Party anymore to splurge on.

But, I am still a traditional liberal/conservative. I still believe in free markets, minimal red tape, smallest government possible, and letting people decide what is best for their money and their lives.

Brent

Quote from: Shen Li on July 15, 2024, 10:37:26 PMThe wealthiest ZIP codes in America are solidly Democratic.

For years, affluent and college-educated voters, mostly white, had been the base of the Republican Party. Exit polls showed Republicans winning college graduates with high incomes nationally from 1988 to 2004, and again in 2012.

That all changed under Trump. Blue collar workers who used to vote Democratic, supported Trump in 2016, 2020 and again this election cycle.

Conservatism is dead, dead, dead everywhere in the Western world. From the National Rally in France to the Danish People's Party, to the Brothers of Italy Party, nationalist, anti-globalist, anti-immigration, pseudo-socialist parties are in and small government, but globalist, anti-socialist conservative parties are toast.

The transformation of the Republican party under Trump has been incredible. So many of the old guard GOP would rather help the Dems sabotage the new GOP rather than have anything to do with coal miners from West Virginia or steel workers from West3ern Pennsylvania. Trump gave them a voice when Dems and old guard Republicans pretended they didn't exist.

Fiscal conservatism is still alive and well in East Asia though. The PAP in Singapore is conservative.
Socialism is dead too. AOC, Sanders, and Jagmeet Singh are woke corporatists, not socialists. Open borders, climate change inflation that hurts the working class, war with Russia are what rich urban elites want.

Trump and Vance are a lot closer to socialism than the Squad is. That is why Trump has trouble getting rich people to donate. His working class agenda takes power away from the rich and entitled and gives it back to workers.

Fight the power. Vote Trump/Vance.

Biggie Smiles

Quote from: Brent on July 16, 2024, 01:30:44 PMSocialism is dead too. AOC, Sanders, and Jagmeet Singh are woke corporatists, not socialists.



Correction. they are opportunists seeking to engage in enough performative activity so as to swell demand for their real money making endeavors. 

Congress is only a part-time gig for them and only serves to facilitate the exposure they need to garner the real money.
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Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 15, 2024, 11:22:20 PMunion? As in the cancer of capitalism? speaking at a conservative convention?

That is a pretty bad omen for poor old biden

I don't feel sorry for Biden at all avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly

Biden should have offered to step down after that debate.

But his refusal to do so has resulted in Big Donors stifling their contributions to the Democratic party while the money keeps flowing in to the Republican party.

No brainer to realize where this is headed.


Man's a selfish Idiot.

He refuses to see the writing on the wall & do what's in the best interests of his own party.
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Quote from: JOE on July 16, 2024, 02:04:30 PMI don't feel sorry for Biden at all avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly

Biden should have offered to step down after that debate.

But his refusal to do so has resulted in Big Donors stifling their contributions to the Democratic party while the money keeps flowing in to the Republican party.

No brainer to realize where this is headed.


Man's a selfish Idiot.

He refuses to see the writing on the wall & do what's in the best interests of his own party.


Reminiscent of Ruth Bader Ginsburg who, well into her 80's was begged to step down during the Obama administration,

 but selfishness and greed are selfishness and greed no matter whom it is that ultimately pays the price.  And those are traits commonplace within the democrat party. You are witnessing it unfold in real time.
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JOE

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 16, 2024, 02:11:17 PMReminiscent of Ruth Bader Ginsburg who, well into her 80's was begged to step down during the Obama administration,

 but selfishness and greed are selfishness and greed no matter whom it is that ultimately pays the price.  And those are traits commonplace within the democrat party. You are witnessing it unfold in real time.

I think these politicians and the people they appoint in your country never want to leave high office because they have it good and they know it.

Gold plated pensions. 24/7 police protection. Best medical care and doctors on the planet to take care of their aging corpses.

So that system is all too accommodating for these old codgers.

There should be an age limit like 75.

Canada the maximum age Supreme Court Justices can remain on the bench is 75. Upon reaching that age they have to step down.
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