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Started by Bricktop, June 29, 2015, 09:50:16 PM

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RW

Here, if you refuse to provide a service to someone based on sexual orientation you can be fined.  It's against our laws. If your business is catering, and you refuse to cater an event because the couple is gay, you are discriminating and its against the law.  If you are a florist and you usually provide flowers for a wedding but refuse to do so because the couple is gay, you are discriminating and its against the law.



If you don't want to respect the law around discrimination, then don't go into business.
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RW

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Only no one is telling you what to BELIEVE.  You're being told that you can't treat people like second rate citizens because they are gay.  (Read Animal Farm for details.)
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Anonymous

Quote from: "RW"Here, if you refuse to provide a service to someone based on sexual orientation you can be fined.  It's against our laws. If your business is catering, and you refuse to cater an event because the couple is gay, you are discriminating and its against the law.  If you are a florist and you usually provide flowers for a wedding but refuse to do so because the couple is gay, you are discriminating and its against the law.



If you don't want to respect the law around discrimination, then don't go into business.
 So then private business owners who are black should cater kkk events. Or homosexuals should have to cater Westboro Baptist events.  Muslims should be shut down and fined as well. Peoples religious freedom, and free speech, is being robbed.

Anonymous

Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Dove"http://i61.tinypic.com/k3xj60.jpg">  Spec, it's more like this.

Only no one is telling you what to BELIEVE.  You're being told that you can't treat people like second rate citizens because they are gay.  (Read Animal Farm for details.)
 Who is doing that?

Anonymous

You know what, if I were in this position, I'd go ahead and take the job. Then I'd donate all the profits to help the families who have had their lively hood destroyed from these bullish lawsuits. And make it known that's where the money was going lol.

RW

Well the KKK isn't a protected group (and I highly doubt they would want black caterers) but technically, yes regarding Westboro.



You are welcome to your religious freedom as part of your personal beliefs but we are talking about business.  If you don't want to serve the general public, go work in a church.  You are FREE to do that.



Also, freedom of speech is not without its limits.  Best to keep that in mind.
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Anonymous

Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dove"I also feel you can't force a private business to cater an event that is an affront to their beliefs.  There is a HUGE difference here that you are convienatly sweeping under the rug.  It's called the First Amendment.


You can here. It is an offence, plain and simple.



If you bake cakes, anyone who comes into your shop can buy a cake.



Refusal to sell is an offence.



By the way...that First Amendment...it does not apply beyond your borders.
 Yes, anyone can come in aND buy a cake.   That is different than forcing an AMERICAN,  who has protection under first amendment, to tie their private business to events that go directly against their sincerely held beliefs. And these businesses were known Christian businesses.  By your logic, the old lady who runs the Christian book store should be forced to take business from a porn publisher.  This not about refusing to sell a cake to a homosexual. This is about how the government can step in and dictate YOUR business. Private business. Then gag order you.  And why does this only apply to small town private Christian business owners?

RW

A porn publisher is not a protected group under human rights.
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Anonymous

Religion is protected under our Constitution ....and separation of church and state seems to only go one way right now. And simply because a group is 'protected' doesn't make it right.  Politely declining servicing an event you find offensive to your convictions is not discrimination.  Denying service to someone because of a personal bias, is wrong. But not wanting to involved in an event?  Get real!   Weren't you just saying "if you don't like it, don't go"?

Anonymous

Look, you know how I feel about the nudity and sex stuff at a pride parade.  I shouldn't be forced to attend that under any circumstance, let alone be forced to cater it. People used to have a right to decide what contracts they wanted to enter.

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J0E

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And that's what I'll tell God should he ever ask me why I've stood up as a witness at a few gay weddings.


....a bit like this, eh 'Real?




J0E

Quote from: "Dove"Religion is protected under our Constitution ....and separation of church and state seems to only go one way right now. And simply because a group is 'protected' doesn't make it right.  Politely declining servicing an event you find offensive to your convictions is not discrimination.  Denying service to someone because of a personal bias, is wrong. But not wanting to involved in an event?  Get real!   Weren't you just saying "if you don't like it, don't go"?


I wonder why Church and State have been determined to be separate in Canada and the US we're no longer able to divide marriage into two different institutions to differentiate between gay and the other for straight. Society is divisible, but one of the institutions fundamental to it is not.



Seems like a contradiction to me.



Another example of political correctness at work, making up the rules for everyone else.



Oh well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous

Quote from: "Frank"
Quote from: "Dove"Religion is protected under our Constitution ....and separation of church and state seems to only go one way right now. And simply because a group is 'protected' doesn't make it right.  Politely declining servicing an event you find offensive to your convictions is not discrimination.  Denying service to someone because of a personal bias, is wrong. But not wanting to involved in an event?  Get real!   Weren't you just saying "if you don't like it, don't go"?


I wonder why Church and State have been determined to be separate in Canada and the US we're no longer able to divide marriage into two different institutions to differentiate between gay and the other for straight. Society is divisible, but one of the institutions fundamental to it is not.



Seems like a contradiction to me.



Another example of political correctness at work, making up the rules for everyone else.



Oh well.
 Exactly. There is no more real freedom.