I want to ask Dove about how she was saved

[Anonymous]

No. Again, heresy is going outside of the bible. If a church is teaching a false, unbiblical doctrine...it's heresy.  The bible is the authority. Not a church. See what I'm saying?  It is intended this way to keep people accountable to scripture. So that you don't have people like Jim Jones running all over.  It's to keep the gospel spreading and preserved and not added to.

According to the dictionary, it's going against religious dogma and the "church", not "the bible".



I just want to know if you think everyone who isn't a Christian following scripture is a heretic.

 No. If you aren't Christain, you are not Christain.  Heresy is getting involved with scripture and changing it.  Teaching heresy.  Like praying to dead people when God forbids it. Or teaching salvation by works...which is unbiblical.  Teachers are held to a higher standard.  Jocye Myers taught heresy when she said Jesus went to hell and paid the price there, and we will go to hell unless we believe it.  Make sense? If I go to a church and they are teaching drinking animal blood to be saved, they are heretics. If someone wants you to drink magic kool-aid and meet Christ in His space ship.....they are....drum roll....psychopathic heretics. Lol

So if Catholics believe in repenting for sins via confession, does that make them heretics?  Are the priests who administer confession heretics?

 You see...this depends.  If a priest is telling you that confessing to him or any human is absolutely a must or you won't be forgiven, yes. That's false. If you are confessing simply to get it out....that's good. Scripture says to confess our sins to each other and edify eachother. However....calling a priest or any man "Holy Father" is against scripture. Jesus actually specifically said this.

"Scripture says to confess our sins to each other and edify each other."

There you go.  Then Catholic confession is within scripture and not heretical.

 it's heretical if it's forced or you are being told it's needed for forgiveness.  Of course a prescription of repeating prayers to Mary with beads is not only heretical....it's pagan.  So, there is a line.

So then I would have been considered a heretic.

if you were teaching people that was required for forgiveness, then yes, you were.  So if you don't believe in any of this anyway....why the strong reaction?

So my teachers and the priests were heretics.  I see haha.



Where did I say I didn't believe in something?

 Well, yeah.  They are not God, and have absolutely no power forgive sin.  Or decide what sins are forgivable.  But if you to support an unbiblical religion that destroys people spiritually and turns them away from God...have at it.

[Anonymous]

I've experienced more than Catholicism in my day including Christian youth groups where they'd expect us to channel the holiness and speak in tongues and shit.  I've seen more than the inside of a confessional.  You ask God for forgiveness not a priest.  You just vocalize and do "penance" in the form of prayer - to God.  



It's all the same shit though Dove.  They think you're doing it wrong.  You think they're doing it wrong.  I say "fuck you!" to the whole lot of ya.  I don't believe for one damn second God or Jesus gives a flying fuck how you show contrition for your sins.

 Yeah. Well that whole "who is right, who is wrong" is easily solved when you read the bible.  Speaking in tongues and being "slain in the spirit"  isn't biblical either, and it's heretical to say a person isn't saved unless they speak in tongues.  I grew up pentecostal.

[Anonymous]

http://hbcdelivers.org/list-of-roman-catholic-heresies/">http://hbcdelivers.org/list-of-roman-catholic-heresies/ pretty much everything listed here is the list of issues every bible believer has about the RC. At least I'm not calling the pope an antichrist and referring to papal Rome as the whore of revelation....even though based on scripture it could very well be true.

[RW]

No. Again, heresy is going outside of the bible. If a church is teaching a false, unbiblical doctrine...it's heresy.  The bible is the authority. Not a church. See what I'm saying?  It is intended this way to keep people accountable to scripture. So that you don't have people like Jim Jones running all over.  It's to keep the gospel spreading and preserved and not added to.

According to the dictionary, it's going against religious dogma and the "church", not "the bible".



I just want to know if you think everyone who isn't a Christian following scripture is a heretic.

 No. If you aren't Christain, you are not Christain.  Heresy is getting involved with scripture and changing it.  Teaching heresy.  Like praying to dead people when God forbids it. Or teaching salvation by works...which is unbiblical.  Teachers are held to a higher standard.  Jocye Myers taught heresy when she said Jesus went to hell and paid the price there, and we will go to hell unless we believe it.  Make sense? If I go to a church and they are teaching drinking animal blood to be saved, they are heretics. If someone wants you to drink magic kool-aid and meet Christ in His space ship.....they are....drum roll....psychopathic heretics. Lol

So if Catholics believe in repenting for sins via confession, does that make them heretics?  Are the priests who administer confession heretics?

 You see...this depends.  If a priest is telling you that confessing to him or any human is absolutely a must or you won't be forgiven, yes. That's false. If you are confessing simply to get it out....that's good. Scripture says to confess our sins to each other and edify eachother. However....calling a priest or any man "Holy Father" is against scripture. Jesus actually specifically said this.

"Scripture says to confess our sins to each other and edify each other."

There you go.  Then Catholic confession is within scripture and not heretical.

 it's heretical if it's forced or you are being told it's needed for forgiveness.  Of course a prescription of repeating prayers to Mary with beads is not only heretical....it's pagan.  So, there is a line.

So then I would have been considered a heretic.

if you were teaching people that was required for forgiveness, then yes, you were.  So if you don't believe in any of this anyway....why the strong reaction?

So my teachers and the priests were heretics.  I see haha.



Where did I say I didn't believe in something?

 Well, yeah.  They are not God, and have absolutely no power forgive sin.  Or decide what sins are forgivable.  But if you to support an unbiblical religion that destroys people spiritually and turns them away from God...have at it.

All religion I have ever come across has turned me off - every single one.  The congregation of the RC turned me off more so than the religion itself.

[RW]

http://hbcdelivers.org/list-of-roman-catholic-heresies/">http://hbcdelivers.org/list-of-roman-catholic-heresies/ pretty much everything listed here is the list of issues every bible believer has about the RC. At least I'm not calling the pope an antichrist and referring to papal Rome as the whore of revelation....even though based on scripture it could very well be true.

I'm aware of the RCs deviation from the word.  I do think the Pope keeps Carholicism from becoming chaotic like Islam though.

[Anonymous]

http://hbcdelivers.org/list-of-roman-catholic-heresies/">http://hbcdelivers.org/list-of-roman-catholic-heresies/ pretty much everything listed here is the list of issues every bible believer has about the RC. At least I'm not calling the pope an antichrist and referring to papal Rome as the whore of revelation....even though based on scripture it could very well be true.

I'm aware of the RCs deviation from the word.  I do think the Pope keeps Carholicism from becoming chaotic like Islam though.

Aside from the current pope kissing the koran?  When people bring up "Christian violance"... they are referencing actions taken by the RC.   God didn't need any help in His formula....wandering from the word is when all kinds of issues happen.  Look at the message sent when they treat abortion as a worse sin, in need of some sort of special attention.  It enslaves women to shame, guilt...it takes away from the spiritual freedom God intends for His church.

[RW]

http://hbcdelivers.org/list-of-roman-catholic-heresies/">http://hbcdelivers.org/list-of-roman-catholic-heresies/ pretty much everything listed here is the list of issues every bible believer has about the RC. At least I'm not calling the pope an antichrist and referring to papal Rome as the whore of revelation....even though based on scripture it could very well be true.

I'm aware of the RCs deviation from the word.  I do think the Pope keeps Carholicism from becoming chaotic like Islam though.

Aside from the current pope kissing the koran?  When people bring up "Christian violance"... they are referencing actions taken by the RC.   God didn't need any help in His formula....wandering from the word is when all kinds of issues happen.  Look at the message sent when they treat abortion as a worse sin, in need of some sort of special attention.  It enslaves women to shame, guilt...it takes away from the spiritual freedom God intends for His church.

Oh I am fully aware of Catholic guilt hahaha



I do think a church head has kept Catholicism from becoming fractured.

[J0E]

sigh...haven't you gals have anythin' better to talk about?



How about something more worthy...such as "How many Angels can dance on a head of a pin?"



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It was a hot topic in religious circles back in 1300.

[Anonymous]

http://hbcdelivers.org/list-of-roman-catholic-heresies/">http://hbcdelivers.org/list-of-roman-catholic-heresies/ pretty much everything listed here is the list of issues every bible believer has about the RC. At least I'm not calling the pope an antichrist and referring to papal Rome as the whore of revelation....even though based on scripture it could very well be true.

I'm aware of the RCs deviation from the word.  I do think the Pope keeps Carholicism from becoming chaotic like Islam though.

Aside from the current pope kissing the koran?  When people bring up "Christian violance"... they are referencing actions taken by the RC.   God didn't need any help in His formula....wandering from the word is when all kinds of issues happen.  Look at the message sent when they treat abortion as a worse sin, in need of some sort of special attention.  It enslaves women to shame, guilt...it takes away from the spiritual freedom God intends for His church.

Oh I am fully aware of Catholic guilt hahaha



I do think a church head has kept Catholicism from becoming fractured.

 Well its not at all orthodox, biblical Christianity.  I don't understand how that theology could work for anyone in any meaningful way.  When people have this idea that they can contribute anything to their salvation besides their sin....they tend to get self righteous.  It makes sense the congregation was like that.  Churchanity does that to people.  Many people have been saved out of religion as well.  When those people find themselves in our congregation ....it takes them a minute to relax and stop the gasping. We keep it real. Lol. Calvanists have an effect on religious people that's interesting to behold.