I'd like to talk about sex, just a little...

[Anonymous]

We all love drama, Renee.



We wouldn't join forums if we didn't, now would we?

If that is your position and you have come here to stir the pot, then I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell all the "shit disturbers".  

The comment was meant to be funny.

Don't be so humourless, Renee.

Sorry but my humor has been impaired by self-serving asshats that come here only to start trouble.

Do you mean Blurt? He seems to be a good guy.

Not that I am trying to speak for Renee but I would imagine there are 3 others she is referring to. The three that tend to constantly keep the "wounds" open going back and forth between the forums bringing one up to the other. Mel, Odi and J0E. Always bitching, crying and advising how things should be, when most just want the conflict to die a silent death.

Alright, thanks brother.  ac_drinks



That's good to know. Odinson is a bullshitter and Joe takes cheapshots at ceec, Renee and myself about my boy and my old lady. Mel Gibson, I can't say too much about because I don't know.

[Renee]

We all love drama, Renee.



We wouldn't join forums if we didn't, now would we?

If that is your position and you have come here to stir the pot, then I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell all the "shit disturbers".  

The comment was meant to be funny.

Don't be so humourless, Renee.

Sorry but my humor has been impaired by self-serving asshats that come here only to start trouble.

Do you mean Blurt? He seems to be a good guy.

Not that I am trying to speak for Renee but I would imagine there are 3 others she is referring to. The three that tend to constantly keep the "wounds" open going back and forth between the forums bringing one up to the other. Mel, Odi and J0E. Always bitching, crying and advising how things should be, when most just want the conflict to die a silent death.

Kiebers pretty much nailed it.



As far as Blurt is concerned, he is not exactly on my friends list and I'm pretty sure I'm not on his. But if he wants to stick around, I don't much care one way or the other so long as he keeps old cross forum animosties out of the picture.

[RW]

I make him think he belongs here.



How's that for balls?

Considerable, especially when you consider past history.



But it's your call. I like everyone else can only stand by and watch while another "bone of contention" gets thrown to the membership.



Do you live for drama? Because this is a move that says that you do.  ac_dunno

So Blurt is a "none of contention"?  Why?

[RW]

We all love drama, Renee.



We wouldn't join forums if we didn't, now would we?

If that is your position and you have come here to stir the pot, then I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell all the "shit disturbers".  

The comment was meant to be funny.

Don't be so humourless, Renee.

Sorry but my humor has been impaired by self-serving asshats that come here only to start trouble.

Do you mean Blurt? He seems to be a good guy.

Not that I am trying to speak for Renee but I would imagine there are 3 others she is referring to. The three that tend to constantly keep the "wounds" open going back and forth between the forums bringing one up to the other. Mel, Odi and J0E. Always bitching, crying and advising how things should be, when most just want the conflict to die a silent death.

Kiebers pretty much nailed it.



As far as Blurt is concerned, he is not exactly on my friends list and I'm pretty sure I'm not on his. But if he wants to stick around, I don't much care one way or the other so long as he keeps old cross forum animosties out of the picture.

Oh I have a feeling that will be my job.



Just hurry up and get it out so we can get on having intelligent conversations again.

[Renee]

I make him think he belongs here.



How's that for balls?

Considerable, especially when you consider past history.



But it's your call. I like everyone else can only stand by and watch while another "bone of contention" gets thrown to the membership.



Do you live for drama? Because this is a move that says that you do.  ac_dunno

So Blurt is a "none of contention"?  Why?

Serious question??????  



I rather not rehash shit that went down almost a year ago, but that's just me.



I'm sure others will react differently, one already has. If you think having one of the evil queens former henchmen hanging around isn't a recipe for contention, then nothing I'm going to say will make a difference. Do what you will.

[Renee]

We all love drama, Renee.



We wouldn't join forums if we didn't, now would we?

If that is your position and you have come here to stir the pot, then I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell all the "shit disturbers".  

The comment was meant to be funny.

Don't be so humourless, Renee.

Sorry but my humor has been impaired by self-serving asshats that come here only to start trouble.

Do you mean Blurt? He seems to be a good guy.

Not that I am trying to speak for Renee but I would imagine there are 3 others she is referring to. The three that tend to constantly keep the "wounds" open going back and forth between the forums bringing one up to the other. Mel, Odi and J0E. Always bitching, crying and advising how things should be, when most just want the conflict to die a silent death.

Kiebers pretty much nailed it.



As far as Blurt is concerned, he is not exactly on my friends list and I'm pretty sure I'm not on his. But if he wants to stick around, I don't much care one way or the other so long as he keeps old cross forum animosties out of the picture.

Oh I have a feeling that will be my job.



Just hurry up and get it out so we can get on having intelligent conversations again.

You want intelligent conversation, take it to the main forum.



Isn't this the place where we are supposed to mix it up and act like a bunch of slobs?

[RW]

It sure is but you guys really like slumming it :)

[Renee]

It sure is but you guys really like slumming it :)

Yeah okay, and you never take part. I forgot you're an  :43(2):



You know damn well that I wouldn't be bringing this subject up unless there was good reason.



It's unfortunate that you think stating the truth is "slumming".

[RW]

Oh, no one is butt-hurt. Just tired and drained by mid-winter blahs.



Yes, I've been hurt before but, contrary to Mr. Crowley, I took my ball home only once, not four or five times. It's what happens when you have some strength of character.

It happens.  A lot of us have had time outs, myself included.  I didn't just take my ball, I took my 20,000 posts with me as well so don't look at me to throw stones on that one (not that you would).

Speaking of which, we'll address Mr. Crowley's ceaseless bleating about my duplicity and disloyalty to my friends once and for all. My biggest mistake last year was to engage with RW (whom I definitely consider a friend) while under the impression that she was being unduly manipulated by the good Mr. Crowley. And, while I do believe that Mr. Crowley is manipulative (most unrepentant narcissists are), I now realize that my true disloyalty to my friend RW was, precisely, to engage with her as though she had no mind of her own and couldn't make her own decisions. For that, I've already apologized, and do so again publicly, right here.

I appreciate your apology Blurt.  That acknowledgement meant a lot to me.  It wasn't Mr. C driving my behaviour, it was the toxicity of VF and my contribution to it.  



I do want to say that Mr. Crowley is not a narcissist, unrepentant or otherwise.  An honest review of the signs and traits will tell you that.

See, the shoe is now on the other foot. A woman whom I consider a friend has lately made me feel as though I have no mind of my own and that I'm being unduly manipulated by a choice member here. The feeling sucks. However, whatever people here think of that woman, I'll continue to think of her as a friend. Why? Because she is. It's really no more complicated than that. As all parties have acknowledged, we cannot have much say in who our friends choose as friends. To abandon our friends based on the choices they make is the true disloyalty, seems to me.

Yes, yes, we all know that I am manipulating the shit out of everyone and that I am an Internet Predator, blah blah blah.  You and I both know we have minds of our own and make our own decisions.  



As I have said to everyone here, you are welcome to be friends with whomever you please.  In real life, I don't dictate who my friends can or cannot be friends with so I don't do it online either.  That's rather ridiculous if you ask me.  It's also not disloyalty to be loyal to another friend.

Now, Mr. Crowley cannot easily be accused of such disloyalty because, as his history on these forums for lo! these many years has shown, he has no true friend but himself, as is evidenced by the fact that he will drop his so-called friends at the drop of a hat if things don't go his way. You need only ask his former friends to confirm this.

If nothing else, he has a true friend in me and I in him.  Things haven't always gone his way and he hasn't dropped me yet and it's been over 4 years now.  I also don't need to ask kiebers what went down because I already know.  What Crow is willing to do is cut ties with people that don't meet his definition of a friend.  He's allowed to do that.

Finally, that Mr. Crowley rides high on a horse in this forum while, not two years ago, he was unctuously courting former cohorts at Brawl Hall to join him in bringing this very forum down is the very definition of duplicity. An interesting fact: his former cohorts at BH laughed in his face, enjoining him to grow up.

This forum didn't exist 2 years ago.

About his being banned from Blurtsome, it's simply a measure designed to limit the spread of his poison in this circle of connected forums. The decision was not mine alone but a consensual one. My mods have both balls and legs (no offense, Keeps) and that is why I love them so. Mr. Crowley's desperate attempts to deflect attention from his disloyalty and duplicity by shining a spotlight on a venue that wants none of his adolescent shenanigans to mar it is, well, Rotwangy. Unsurprisingly, I should add.

Where is the disloyalty and duplicity that he's trying to deflect by talking about being banned from your forum?  I missed something.

As for the members here--some of whom may not like me all that much (something I can live with)--I have no particular beef with and no intention of trolling. I take most people at face value. As I said, I found out the hard way that not doing so almost cost me a friendship I consider precious. I won't be making that mistake again.

And here we are at the heart of the matter.  People fuck up.  We've all fucked up.  Why aren't people entitled to a chance to rectify mistakes?  People learn and grow.  People change.



"Give peace a chance."



(Yes, that made my puke in my mouth a little bit.)

[RW]

It sure is but you guys really like slumming it :)

Yeah okay, and you never take part. I forgot you're an  :43(2):



You know damn well that I wouldn't be bringing this subject up unless there was good reason.



It's unfortunate that you think stating the truth is "slumming".

I'm no angel. :P  Now stop being so fucking dramatic. hahaha  See what I did there?



That was a tease Renee.  You are welcome to truth it up all you like in here.

[Bricktop]

It made me puke in my mouth a LOT.



And he says he's not here to start shit???

[RW]

You can't start shit that's already been started. :P

[Blurt]

What I'm wondering is, how can this thread be 18 pages long and nobody's talking about sex?



Edit: not even a little!

[RW]

/humps a leg

[Bricktop]

You can't start shit that's already been started. :P

No.



There was none of this shit until he poked his face in here.



Would you care to try to convince me he was unaware that his presence here would ignite conflict? Yet he came all the same.



That tells me that any "shit' was pre-meditated, and intentional.



And then I read his dissertation that, even as YOU observed, contains half truths and untruths.



When I wrote a similar essay in HIS forum, he and his morons felt that my presence was counter to the calm and serene ambience...and they were probably right.



Yet he comes here, and thinks its OK to lecture and lie???



Finally, does anyone believe this lapdog won't be reporting events to his dear, sweet friend...the same dear sweet friend that said you weren't abused enough as a child, and were not a good mother. That you are an internet predator?



He's Vesna's lackey. Tell me, why do we need him here?