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Is Lust a Sin?

Started by J0E, January 01, 2016, 09:43:55 PM

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Anonymous

You know, while Jesus was alive and for long time after.....no one called Him Jesus. It was Yeshua, derived from Joshua.  In Greek it's something I can't type with my keyboard on my phone.  There are also no vowels in the entire Hebrew text of the OT.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dove"You know, while Jesus was alive and for long time after.....no one called Him Jesus. It was Yeshua, derived from Joshua.  In Greek it's something I can't type with my keyboard on my phone.  There are also no vowels in the entire Hebrew text of the OT.

The Hebrew alphabet originally had no vowels.

Anonymous

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Quote from: "Dove"You know, while Jesus was alive and for long time after.....no one called Him Jesus. It was Yeshua, derived from Joshua.  In Greek it's something I can't type with my keyboard on my phone.  There are also no vowels in the entire Hebrew text of the OT.

The Hebrew alphabet originally had no vowels.
 Nope.

Anonymous

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Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"The bible is clear about lust. Matthew 5:28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.



1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world.

So every man is an adulterer?  



Where does the Bible say it's not lust if you desire your husband or wife?

1 Corinthians 7:1-40

Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: "It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman." But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
 That's the verse. That talk went full circle....lol.  See?  Your husband has to do it. Lol

keeper

Lust got me through high School  ac_dance



Stop giving lust a bad rep

RW

Quote from: "Dove"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"The bible is clear about lust. Matthew 5:28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.



1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world.

So every man is an adulterer?  



Where does the Bible say it's not lust if you desire your husband or wife?

1 Corinthians 7:1-40

Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: "It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman." But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
 That's the verse. That talk went full circle....lol.  See?  Your husband has to do it. Lol

They make a good point about doing it lots so your partner doesn't stray.  (Sexual) negligence is a relationship killer.



Don't you lust after your potential spouse before you are married though?
Beware of Gaslighters!

Anonymous

Well you can but the goal is to avoid it. Focus on the attraction and the person, who they are, and forming a friendship. Alot of courting Christian couples make a point to avoid situations that would inspire lust taking over.  I'm not really one to talk, because lust is a major struggle for most.  Married people are supposed to keep each other satisfied to avoid pre occupation with intense sexual desire.  Which is also a challange.  Alot of honest reflection, prayer, and bring intentional in thought and action. The more you entertain thoughts the bigger they get, the harder it is to overcome.  We will never be entirely free of sin....hence, God's grace.

keeper

Ok in all seriousness,  what if I don't ever intend on "courting " to aquire a wife?

RW

Quote from: "Dove"Well you can but the goal is to avoid it. Focus on the attraction and the person, who they are, and forming a friendship. Alot of courting Christian couples make a point to avoid situations that would inspire lust taking over.  I'm not really one to talk, because lust is a major struggle for most.  Married people are supposed to keep each other satisfied to avoid pre occupation with intense sexual desire.  Which is also a challange.  Alot of honest reflection, prayer, and bring intentional in thought and action. The more you entertain thoughts the bigger they get, the harder it is to overcome.  We will never be entirely free of sin....hence, God's grace.

Personally, I think it's merely a means of control to make wrong basic human instincts such as lust.  We are supposed to have strong sexual desires.  It's human nature.  So is the bible saying that God created us with basic instincts then turned around and made them sins?



Sounds fishy to me.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Renee

Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Dove"Well you can but the goal is to avoid it. Focus on the attraction and the person, who they are, and forming a friendship. Alot of courting Christian couples make a point to avoid situations that would inspire lust taking over.  I'm not really one to talk, because lust is a major struggle for most.  Married people are supposed to keep each other satisfied to avoid pre occupation with intense sexual desire.  Which is also a challange.  Alot of honest reflection, prayer, and bring intentional in thought and action. The more you entertain thoughts the bigger they get, the harder it is to overcome.  We will never be entirely free of sin....hence, God's grace.

Personally, I think it's merely a means of control to make wrong basic human instincts such as lust.  We are supposed to have strong sexual desires.  It's human nature.  So is the bible saying that God created us with basic instincts then turned around and made them sins?



Sounds fishy to me.


All the so-called sins are nothing but dogmatic repression of human nature.



Even the prohibition of murder is a repression of human nature. Man is a vicious vile creature, regardless of how some people think we have evolved socially. Strip away the thin veneer of what we call civilization and we are little more than rival groups of baboons.
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


keeper

Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Dove"Well you can but the goal is to avoid it. Focus on the attraction and the person, who they are, and forming a friendship. Alot of courting Christian couples make a point to avoid situations that would inspire lust taking over.  I'm not really one to talk, because lust is a major struggle for most.  Married people are supposed to keep each other satisfied to avoid pre occupation with intense sexual desire.  Which is also a challange.  Alot of honest reflection, prayer, and bring intentional in thought and action. The more you entertain thoughts the bigger they get, the harder it is to overcome.  We will never be entirely free of sin....hence, God's grace.

Personally, I think it's merely a means of control to make wrong basic human instincts such as lust.  We are supposed to have strong sexual desires.  It's human nature.  So is the bible saying that God created us with basic instincts then turned around and made them sins?



Sounds fishy to me.


All the so-called sins are nothing but dogmatic repression of human nature.



Even the prohibition of murder is a repression of human nature. Woman are vicious vile creatures, regardless of how some people think we have evolved socially. Strip away the thin veneer of what we call civilization and we are little more than rival groups of baboons.


Fixed it  :001_tongue:

Renee

Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Dove"Well you can but the goal is to avoid it. Focus on the attraction and the person, who they are, and forming a friendship. Alot of courting Christian couples make a point to avoid situations that would inspire lust taking over.  I'm not really one to talk, because lust is a major struggle for most.  Married people are supposed to keep each other satisfied to avoid pre occupation with intense sexual desire.  Which is also a challange.  Alot of honest reflection, prayer, and bring intentional in thought and action. The more you entertain thoughts the bigger they get, the harder it is to overcome.  We will never be entirely free of sin....hence, God's grace.

Personally, I think it's merely a means of control to make wrong basic human instincts such as lust.  We are supposed to have strong sexual desires.  It's human nature.  So is the bible saying that God created us with basic instincts then turned around and made them sins?



Sounds fishy to me.


All the so-called sins are nothing but dogmatic repression of human nature.



Even the prohibition of murder is a repression of human nature. Woman are vicious vile creatures, regardless of how some people think we have evolved socially. Strip away the thin veneer of what we call civilization and we are little more than rival groups of baboons.


Fixed it  :001_tongue:


I won't argue with that.  :laugh:
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Anonymous

Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Dove"Well you can but the goal is to avoid it. Focus on the attraction and the person, who they are, and forming a friendship. Alot of courting Christian couples make a point to avoid situations that would inspire lust taking over.  I'm not really one to talk, because lust is a major struggle for most.  Married people are supposed to keep each other satisfied to avoid pre occupation with intense sexual desire.  Which is also a challange.  Alot of honest reflection, prayer, and bring intentional in thought and action. The more you entertain thoughts the bigger they get, the harder it is to overcome.  We will never be entirely free of sin....hence, God's grace.

Personally, I think it's merely a means of control to make wrong basic human instincts such as lust.  We are supposed to have strong sexual desires.  It's human nature.  So is the bible saying that God created us with basic instincts then turned around and made them sins?



Sounds fishy to me.
 Well look at the fruit of human lust.  Stds, broken families, porn, abuse, human trafficking, sex addiction, et.   Yes, God gave us sexual desire. Then humans fell, and because of that, we are all born spiritually dead and in our flesh, sin nature.  So we have flawed "urges".   God's design was for one man and one woman to come together and become one. To love and take care of eachother.  Sex is more than a physical release, it's a joining of two people. There is a Hebrew word which describes this love as a bonding, mingling of souls.  Compare how we approach sex, and what God intended it for....and you see how our fallen nature destroyed it.  Like our greed destroying creation. I guess you have to have a good understanding and grasp on total depravity and what we were, and what creation was meant to be.

Twenty Dollars

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I knew this has something to do with God, the Lord. I'm not too religious or righteous.

Anonymous

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I knew this has something to do with God, the Lord. I'm not too religious or righteous.

That's ok Twenty Dollars. Romans 3:23-24 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.