Utah nurse arrested, screaming, dragged into police car

[RW]

Useful article here for anybody interested in the implied consent aspect of this matter.



http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2017/09/01/paul-cassell-cop-who-arrested-nurse-was-wrong-but-the-law-is-complicated/">//http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2017/09/01/paul-cassell-cop-who-arrested-nurse-was-wrong-but-the-law-is-complicated/

I definitely am but I'm in no shape for any intellectual driving tonight :)

[Harry]

This is the police dash cam of the crash that led to Mr Gray being injured.







It looks like it could have been a suicide.  There was nothing in front of the fugitive, and looks like he deliberately crossed to the other side of the road in order to to crash into a truck.

[Anonymous]

This is the police dash cam of the crash that led to Mr Gray being injured.







It looks like it could have been a suicide.  There was nothing in front of the fugitive, and looks like he deliberately crossed to the other side of the road in order to to crash into a truck.

 

[Angry White Male]

Funny how the same posters BASH me for having a drink or two before driving, but yet change their pace for this "cause"...



Do these posters even have a cause?  Doesn't seem like it!

[RW]

Change our pace for what cause?  I don't support drinking and driving or illegal search and seizure.  See how that works?

[Harry]

In the aftermath of all this, the nurse is being extremely reasonable.



http://www.sltrib.com/news/health/2017/09/04/on-today-nurse-alex-wubbels-again-says-police-need-to-police-themselves-to-regain-trust/">//http://www.sltrib.com/news/health/2017/09/04/on-today-nurse-alex-wubbels-again-says-police-need-to-police-themselves-to-regain-trust/

"I'm not here to police the police," Alex Wubbels, 41, said Monday on TODAY. "The police need to do that if they're going to regain any kind of trust by me or, I think, the public."

Wubbels' attorney Karra Porter appeared with her Monday on "TODAY." While a lawsuit is not out of the question, Porter said, her client mostly wants changes so no other nurses are arrested.



"Most people that this happens to don't have this kind of evidence," Porter said.

[RW]

Policy change: police don't deal directly with nurses.



The thing I find really disturbing is that cop dragged her out during her shift.  How many patients was she responsible at the time?  That stupid move could have put people's lives at risk.



So stupid.

[Odinson]

I´m wasted and don't work...

[Wazzzup]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/04/utah-hospital-bars-cops-from-contact-with-nurses-after-appalling-arrest/?utm_term=.59400d351c33">https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 400d351c33">https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/04/utah-hospital-bars-cops-from-contact-with-nurses-after-appalling-arrest/?utm_term=.59400d351c33

The University of Utah Hospital, where a nurse was manhandled and arrested by police as she protected the legal rights of a patient, has imposed new restrictions on law enforcement, including barring officers from patient-care areas and from direct contact with nurses.



Margaret Pearce, chief nursing officer for the University of Utah hospital system, said she was "appalled" by the obfficer's actions and has already implemented changes in hospital protocol to avoid any repetition.



She said police will no longer be permitted in patient-care areas, such as the burn unit where Wubbels was the charge nurse on the day of the incident and from emergency rooms.



In addition, officers will have to deal with "house supervisors" instead of nurses when they have a request.

Seems like a bad idea.  Cops and Hospital staff need to work together at times, this is an escalation and will most likely harm both sides.  Punish the cops who did wrong (they certainly deserve it).  that's the answer, not blame all cops.

[Angry White Male]

The solution is now simple...  When they have a large, violent male patient that becomes a problem, the nurses can now handle that themselves!



Remember, women always want independence!  Give it to them!



When they get the shit beat out of them, their faces and bodies sliced open, and generally get beaten to within an inch of their lives, these stupid bitches will then miraculously reverse the policy...

[Harry]

The solution is now simple...  When they have a large, violent male patient that becomes a problem, the nurses can now handle that themselves!



Remember, women always want independence!  Give it to them!



When they get the shit beat out of them, their faces and bodies sliced open, and generally get beaten to within an inch of their lives, these stupid bitches will then miraculously reverse the policy...

They'll use in-house security.



It's unfortunate.  My sister is an ER nurse, and my sister in law is a recently qualified doctor who did her mandatory time in ER.  Both have some pretty horrible tales about their "customers" that required police assistance.

[Harry]

SLC cop who threatened to 'take good patients elsewhere' before arresting Utah nurse gets fired from his paramedic job



http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/05/slc-detective-involved-in-nurses-arrest-is-fired-from-his-part-time-paramedic-job/">http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/05/s ... medic-job/">http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/05/slc-detective-involved-in-nurses-arrest-is-fired-from-his-part-time-paramedic-job/

Salt Lake City police Detective Jeff Payne has been fired from his part-time paramedic job as the fallout continues from his arrest of a University Hospital nurse in July.



Payne's actions "violated several company policies and left a poor image of the company," Gold Cross President Mike Moffitt said in a Tuesday interview. "We determined today it was best to part ways."

[Harry]

Utah officer told not to worry about blood sample, chief says

The officer at the center of controversy over his treatment of a Utah nurse was told not to worry about obtaining blood from an unconscious car crash victim in the hospital, but tried anyway, Logan Police Chief Gary Jensen told CNN Wednesday.

...

Jensen told CNN his department had initially ordered the sample from the man, who was involved in a crash near Logan, Utah in Cache County. But Logan police asked the Salt Lake City police for help and they dispatched Payne, a trained phlebotomist, to get the blood sample, Jensen said.



At the hospital, Payne relayed his difficulty in getting the blood sample to a Logan detective, who was not at the hospital, Jensen said.

According to Jensen, the detective then informed Payne the Logan department could get the blood through other means.



"He didn't tell him you must cease and desist, he simply said 'don't worry about it, we'll go another way,'" Jensen told CNN. "I just don't believe (Payne's) actions were in the best interest of the patient, the nurses or law enforcement, quite frankly.



"He could have just packed up and gone home," Jensen added.

[Harry]

Other Updates:



. Gray's condition has been upgraded from critical to serious

. Warrant not originally sought by Logan police because they didn't know Gray was unconscious

. Logan Chief Jensen says "it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but I can't come up with a play that includes what happened."

. Gray is a full-time truck driver who also serves as a reserve police officer in the Rigby, Idaho, Police Department.



http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/06/mayor-biskuski-police-officer-who-arrested-nurse-should-immediately-have-been-put-on-leave-br/">//http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/06/mayor-biskuski-police-officer-who-arrested-nurse-should-immediately-have-been-put-on-leave-br/

[Harry]

Updates:



. Detective's body camera confirms that Logan police asked him to back off blood draw before nurse's arrest

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/08/detectives-body-camera-confirms-that-logan-police-asked-him-to-back-off-blood-draw/">//http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/08/detectives-body-camera-confirms-that-logan-police-asked-him-to-back-off-blood-draw/



. Local prosecutors ask FBI to help investigate police

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/08/after-utah-nurses-violent-arrest-local-prosecutors-ask-fbi-to-help-investigate-police/?utm_term=.4d19c9c83e91">//https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/08/after-utah-nurses-violent-arrest-local-prosecutors-ask-fbi-to-help-investigate-police/?utm_term=.4d19c9c83e91