Utah nurse arrested, screaming, dragged into police car

[Harry]

Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car after refusing to let officer take blood from unconscious victim



http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/08/31/utah-nurse-arrested-after-complying-with-hospital-policy-that-bars-taking-blood-from-unconscious-victim/">//http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/08/31/utah-nurse-arrested-after-complying-with-hospital-policy-that-bars-taking-blood-from-unconscious-victim/



A nurse says she was assaulted and illegally arrested by a Salt Lake City police detective for following a hospital policy that does not allow blood draws from unconscious patients.







Also http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865687903/Stop-I7ve-done-nothing-wrong-Nurse-shares-police-video-of-crazy-arrest-by-SL-officer.html">//http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865687903/Stop-I7ve-done-nothing-wrong-Nurse-shares-police-video-of-crazy-arrest-by-SL-officer.html

[RW]

Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car after refusing to let officer take blood from unconscious victim



http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/08/31/utah-nurse-arrested-after-complying-with-hospital-policy-that-bars-taking-blood-from-unconscious-victim/">//http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/08/31/utah-nurse-arrested-after-complying-with-hospital-policy-that-bars-taking-blood-from-unconscious-victim/



A nurse says she was assaulted and illegally arrested by a Salt Lake City police detective for following a hospital policy that does not allow blood draws from unconscious patients.







Also http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865687903/Stop-I7ve-done-nothing-wrong-Nurse-shares-police-video-of-crazy-arrest-by-SL-officer.html">//http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865687903/Stop-I7ve-done-nothing-wrong-Nurse-shares-police-video-of-crazy-arrest-by-SL-officer.html

I was just writing about that.



There were no legal grounds for a sample to be taken regardless of hospital policy.



I think it's sad that a cop who cracked a joke got fired and this guy, who clearly doesn't respect the law, hasn't been immediately terminated.

[JOE]

That's what happens when a country begins to turn into a police state.



You get trigger happy overzealous policemen who want to arrest everybody.



Civil liberties get trampled on and hardly anyone seems to bat an eyelash.



Oh well. It's the path America chose. Glad it's not ours in Canada.

[realgrimm]

Poor lady didn't deserve that, but I'm sure will get financial compensation once she brings it to court.. I hope the pig loses his badge (without pay)

[RW]

That's what happens when a country begins to turn into a police state.



You get trigger happy overzealous policemen who want to arrest everybody.



Civil liberties get trampled on and hardly anyone seems to bat an eyelash.



Oh well. It's the path America chose. Glad it's not ours in Canada.

Bat an eyelash?  People are outraged over this shit.



Not only did he arrest and detain an innocent nurse who was following policy, the fucker tried to stomp on the rights of the accused with unlawful evidence collection.



He should be FIRED.  Instead, some cop who cracked an inappropriate joke about shooting blacks is losing his job instead.



So messed up.

[JOE]

Poor lady didn't deserve that, but I'm sure will get financial compensation once she brings it to court.. I hope the pig loses his badge (without pay)

The 'poor lady' was at one time the 7th best women's slalom skiier in the world:



https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/sh/alex-shaffer-1.html">https://www.sports-reference.com/olympi ... fer-1.html">https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/sh/alex-shaffer-1.html



7th in the Winter Olympics in her event:



...a felon? Hardly.



Yet that's what it takes to convince everybody you're innocent in the States these days.



Ya gotta be a celebrity.

[Anonymous]

I'm sure the officer in question will soon regret what he did, if he doesn't already.

[kiebers]

That's what happens when a country begins to turn into a police state.



You get trigger happy overzealous policemen who want to arrest everybody.



Civil liberties get trampled on and hardly anyone seems to bat an eyelash.



Oh well. It's the path America chose. Glad it's not ours in Canada.

Bat an eyelash?  People are outraged over this shit.

[Harry]

Not only did he arrest and detain an innocent nurse who was following policy, the fucker tried to stomp on the rights of the accused with unlawful evidence collection.

Not only was the nurse following policy, but at 5:50 she advises the cop that the policy was worked out with his own department.



She had her supervisor/manager/superior on he phone, and the cop (Payne) made no effort to discuss the issue with him.



Also, Payne said he wanted the blood sample to protect the patient, who happens to be a reserve police officer, not a suspect.



The "exigent circumstances" argument is a bit out-there.  The doctrine of exigent circumstances, can be used if there is imminent danger of evidence being destroyed, but it would take a long bow to apply this to collection of blood from a person, who is not a suspect, with no prospect of a crime being committed, and in no position to flee before a warrant can be obtained.



FFS, how long would it have taken them to get a warrant, and do it right?

[cc]

That's what happens when a country begins to turn into a police state.



You get trigger happy overzealous policemen who want to arrest everybody.



Civil liberties get trampled on and hardly anyone seems to bat an eyelash.



Oh well. It's the path America chose. Glad it's not ours in Canada.

Bat an eyelash?  People are outraged over this shit.

[RW]

I have to read it again because I thought blood alcohol level was what they were checking for.

[Harry]

I have to read it again because I thought blood alcohol level was what they were checking for.

BAC, narcotics.



I think their logic was that they had to get the blood to prove he was clean, and that if the collection was delayed somebody could argue he was clean or below the legal limit because his body had time to flushed the stuff out. Hence, some brain-fart might think "disposal of evidence" comes into play.



That's the only reason I can think of for not taking the time to get a warrant first.

[RW]

Either way, it's still illegal.

[Harry]

Either way, it's still illegal.

It would seem so.

[Harry]

Update:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/01/this-is-crazy-sobs-utah-hospital-nurse-as-cop-roughs-her-up-arrests-her-for-doing-her-job/?deferJs=true&outputType=default-article&utm_term=.e2c0f66200ac">//https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/01/this-is-crazy-sobs-utah-hospital-nurse-as-cop-roughs-her-up-arrests-her-for-doing-her-job/?deferJs=true&outputType=default-article&utm_term=.e2c0f66200ac



. Payne now suspended

. Salt Lake County DA says he wants wants a criminal investigation into the incident

. Mayor  extends personal apology to Ms. Wubbels "for what she has been through for simply doing her job."

. The U.S. Supreme Court has previously ruled that blood can only be drawn from drivers for probable cause, with a warrant

. Payne was asked "So why don't we just write a search warrant," by the officer wearing the body camera.

. Payne replies "They don't have PC," meaning probable cause, which police must have to get a warrant for search and seizure.



What I find interesting is that Payne's lieutenant allegedly told Payne to arrest Wubbels if she refused to let him draw a sample, but there is no word of action against the lieutenant.