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New California declares "independence" from rest of state

Started by Anonymous, January 17, 2018, 11:16:52 AM

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SACRAMENTO — With the reading of their own version of a Declaration of Independence, founders of the state of New California took the first steps to what they hope will eventually lead to statehood. CBS Sacramento reports they don't want to leave the United States, just California.



"Well, it's been ungovernable for a long time. High taxes, education, you name it, and we're rated around 48th or 50th from a business climate and standpoint in California," said founder Robert Paul Preston.



The state of New California would incorporate most of the state's rural counties, leaving the urban coastal counties to the current state of California.



"There's something wrong when you have a rural county such as this one, and you go down to Orange County which is mostly urban, and it has the same set of problems, and it happens because of how the state is being governed and taxed," Preston said.



Cal-exit? Meet the movement for California secession



But unlike other separation movements in the past, the state of New California wants to do things by the book, citing Article 4, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution and working with the state legislature to get it done, similar to the way West Virginia was formed.



"Yes. We have to demonstrate that we can govern ourselves before we are allowed to govern," said founder Tom Reed.



And despite obstacles, doubters, and obvious long odds, the group stands united in their statehood dream.



The group is organized with committees and a council of county representatives, but say it will take 10 to 18 months before they are ready to fully engage with the state legislature.



This is not the first effort to split up California. In 2014, Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tim Draper submitted signatures to put a measure that would split California in six separate states.

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And California's tax burden is still not as high as my province. In theory, I support the idea. Enough is enough with the growth of the state. It makes a few people well off, but most poorer and with less liberty.

Frood

Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Good luck to them!

Same same,  I wish their movement all the success in the world.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Good luck to them!

Same same,  I wish their movement all the success in the world.

Seoul, do you think they will actually create a new state?

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Good luck to them!

Same same,  I wish their movement all the success in the world.

Seoul, do you think they will actually create a new state?

No. It's a real long shot.

kiebers

I've learned that if someone asks you a really stupid question and you reply by telling them what time it is, they'll leave you alone

Anonymous

Quote from: "kiebers"Two more GOP senators???? LOL

Another reason why the coastal oligarchy will block any new state of California.

Wazzzup

California always teetered on the edge in the past has gone full blown left.  It is a now a monument to Americas failed immigration policies.



The democrats used immigration to make california a majority non white state.  With most immigrants from the underclass, unlike canada's immigrants, and most of them pulling the D lever as planned.



The governor is an extreme democrat, and both legislative houses have supermajorities of democrats.  The left is in full control with no end in sight.



Right at this moment california has-- the highest debt of any state, The highest taxes of any state, and the highest poverty rate of any state. Its hard to go lower than that but I'm sure they will try.

Blazor

Would love to see Southwest VA become separate from the rest, like West Virginia did. Northern VA is where all the liberals are, and they dominate the vote for the whole state. They belong in the North, leave us be down here in Dixie.
I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Anonymous

I would like to see my province and Alberta leave Canada. Independence would be the best option, but if not, than join the USA. I hate giving my tax dollars to Justine.

Anonymous

I wish we could set up some Special Economic Zones like Shenzhen. No  federal taxation powers and an internal border to seal in investor cash and keep out libtard poison.

Bricktop

States should be eradicated.



One country, one government.



States were formed to disperse management over large countries to more localised legislatures due to the tyranny of distance prior to modern communication technology. There is no need for so many politicians now. They are an anachronism that cause far more problems than they are worth.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"States should be eradicated.



One country, one government.



States were formed to disperse management over large countries to more localised legislatures due to the tyranny of distance prior to modern communication technology. There is no need for so many politicians now. They are an anachronism that cause far more problems than they are worth.

I hate dual taxation. Some people in this country mistakenly believe they have lower income taxes than Scandinavian countries, but that's not true once provinces take the second round of income, corporate and sales taxes.

Bricktop

Exactly. Each tier of government takes their slice of the cake.

mugwump

Quote from: "Herman"I would like to see my province and Alberta leave Canada. Independence would be the best option, but if not, than join the USA. I hate giving my tax dollars to Justine.

I don't have see much of a future for any province in Canada. I can't wait to get out of Canada for good.