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South Africa implements apartheid.

Started by Bricktop, February 28, 2018, 05:50:25 PM

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Wazzzup

Latest news for South Africa and refugees going to Australia



Another Aus pol Fraser Anning claims that South African farmers are at risk of genocide

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/26/fraser-anning-claims-that-south-african-farmers-are-at-risk-of-genocide">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... f-genocide">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/26/fraser-anning-claims-that-south-african-farmers-are-at-risk-of-genocide



Thank you, Australia': Hundreds rally in Brisbane to highlight the plight of South African farmers

http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/thank-you-australia-hundreds-rally-in-brisbane-to-highlight-the-plight-of-south-african-farmers/news-story/80c20ce7015e12e4de4cf8e49a105d0e">http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/ ... e49a105d0e">http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/thank-you-australia-hundreds-rally-in-brisbane-to-highlight-the-plight-of-south-african-farmers/news-story/80c20ce7015e12e4de4cf8e49a105d0e



More marches for South Africa planned in Australia

https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/more-marches-for-south-africa-planned-in-australia-20180326">https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News ... a-20180326">https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/more-marches-for-south-africa-planned-in-australia-20180326



South African white woman gets prison for racist rant

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/south-african-white-woman-gets-prison-for-racist-rant/2018/03/28/a00799ae-3276-11e8-b6bd-0084a1666987_story.html?utm_term=.4b2e62820978">https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/af ... 2e62820978">https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/south-african-white-woman-gets-prison-for-racist-rant/2018/03/28/a00799ae-3276-11e8-b6bd-0084a1666987_story.html?utm_term=.4b2e62820978



So this south African woman will get prison time for hate speech, but Malema the head of the EFF who said he would "cut the throat of whiteness" will get none, even though this woman is a danger to no one, whereas Melama's is a huge danger as he is inciting genocide against a group in serious danger of genocide, and he is a prominent political figure with a huge following.



Sigh--Progtard double standards are world wide!

Bricktop

To any informed observer, the descent of South Africa into chaos and depravity is neither surprising or unexpected.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Wazzzup"
South African white woman gets prison for racist rant

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/south-african-white-woman-gets-prison-for-racist-rant/2018/03/28/a00799ae-3276-11e8-b6bd-0084a1666987_story.html?utm_term=.4b2e62820978">https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/af ... 2e62820978">https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/south-african-white-woman-gets-prison-for-racist-rant/2018/03/28/a00799ae-3276-11e8-b6bd-0084a1666987_story.html?utm_term=.4b2e62820978



So this south African woman will get prison time for hate speech, but Malema the head of the EFF who said he would "cut the throat of whiteness" will get none, even though this woman is a danger to no one, whereas Melama's is a huge danger as he is inciting genocide against a group in serious danger of genocide, and he is a prominent political figure with a huge following.



Sigh--Progtard double standards are world wide!

 ac_wot

Wazzzup

Looks like white south Africans won't be getting much help from Oz after all



Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has reportedly retracted Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton's offer to assist white South African farmers with "fast-tracked" visas.



Turnbull and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop have, according to the Daily Maverick, " implicitly refuting Dutton's offer".



Dutton, though, has not retracted his comments about visas, however, the matter is considered "closed".



Bishop confirmed that Australia does monitor the rate of violent crime in South Africa, but said in an interview with ABC News that the humanitarian programme is:



"Non-discriminatory and each application is considered on its merits and I believe the humanitarian programme's credibility comes from the fact that it is non-discriminatory and that each application is assessed on its merits".



Later, Turnbull repeated the "non-discriminatory humanitarian programme" line.



The Daily Maverick further reported:



Diplomatic sources said given the nature of Dutton, it would have been unrealistic to expect him to publicly retract his remarks. But they noted that Turnbull and Bishop had effectively done so for him – and he hadn't contradicted their statements.



Dutton's comments unleashed a torrent of reaction from both sides.



International Relations and Co-operation Minister Lindiwe Sisulu demanded a response from the Australian government while Dutton initially stood by his claims.



A solidarity march was also held in Australia in support of the decision.



Sisulu also said that she had received a letter from the Australian government responding and that she was "satisfied". The South African government reportedly considers the matter to be closed.



Dutton's comments were also viewed as hypocritical by human rights groups.



Australia has previously been criticised for ignoring human rights violations elsewhere. Dutton's promise to "help those who are being persecuted" has been identified as hypocritical, whilst the government have many other refugees waiting for a decision on their futures.[/quote]

Anonymous

I don't understand why some Australian members of parliament believe accepting persecuted Caucasian farmers is discriminatory..



The South African government is discriminating against a segment of it's population.

Angry White Male

Quote from: "Fashionista"I don't understand why some Australian members of parliament believe accepting persecuted Caucasian farmers is discriminatory.

Haven't you received the memo?  White people are bad!  Everyone else is good!

Bricktop

Our idiot Prime Minister, who is supposed to be a conservative, as a rabid leftard. He has a year to go before he's voted out.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Our idiot Prime Minister, who is supposed to be a conservative, as a rabid leftard. He has a year to go before he's voted out.

And then what? The Labour Party.

Bricktop

Out of the frying pan...into the fire.



Our political system is a mess.

Wazzzup

#159
Quote from: "Bricktop"Out of the frying pan...into the fire.



Our political system is a mess.


Maybe, but at least there are politicians in Australia who gave it a valiant try.  Nobody anywhere else did that. (and it may not be over just yuet)



BTW many nations have been blamed for not taking in Jewish refugees around the time of the holocaust., Some even even issued apologies or at least proposed apologizing--The US, Canada, Australia probably more.



Yet history will most likely be repeated with South African refugees.

Wazzzup

#160
MELBOURNE, Australia — South Africa's foreign minister said Monday that the Australian government had retracted comments by its home affairs minister suggesting that South Africa was not a "civilized country" because of its treatment of white farmers.



In March, the minister, Peter Dutton, said that "persecuted" South African farmers deserved the protection of a "civilized country" — alluding to Australia — and said he would explore the possibility of fast-tracking refugee visas for them. Mr. Dutton's comments, as well as his suggestion that the farmers faced a "horrific circumstance," drew fury in Pretoria, where government officials quickly demanded a retraction.



South Africa's minister of international relations and cooperation, Lindiwe Sisulu, said that Australia's prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, and foreign affairs minister, Julie Bishop, had retracted Mr. Dutton's comments and assured South African officials that they were "not in line with Australian immigration policy."



Mr. Turnbull's office did not immediately respond to a request seeking confirmation of Ms. Sisulu's account, which did not indicate when or how the retraction took place.



On Tuesday, Mr. Dutton's office released a statement countering Ms. Sisulu's assertions that the Turnbull government had retracted his comments.[/quote]

Australia's Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton says it's "unquestionable" some white South African farmers are being persecuted and his department is looking into specific cases.



Mr. Dutton also told Sky News Australia that no one in the government has retracted his offer to help white South African farmers who are eligible to be resettled under Australia's refugee program, despite the South African government claiming Foreign Minister Julie Bishop had done so.



On the contrary, he maintains that his department is "looking into" specific cases and Australia will do what it can for people in "desperate" situations.[/quote]

Bricktop

Dutton is lining up for a shot at the Prime Ministers job. The current incumbent is a useless POS, and totally unelectable.

Wazzzup

This article is harsh, but I believe it really assesses the situation in south Africa, I read the entire thing, something I rarely do.  


QuoteLast time I was in South Africa I spent two weeks deep in the Karoo, that desiccated wasteland in the Northern Cape which is home only to a handful of jackals, the occasional springbok and supporters of the Afrikaaner Resistance Movement. I had been visiting Orania, a smallish town in which no black people are allowed. Set up by the son-in-law of Hendrik Verwoerd, its existence now is very grudgingly protected by the South African government under regulations which preserve minority cultures — ah, the irony.



Didn't the Orania people therefore have a point, I wondered, even if it was one only of self-preservation? The point — a dream, for some of them — was to carve out a new nation for Afrikaaners across a hugely unprofitable swathe of the north of the country, from Kimberley to the coast. A new Boer trek, a new homeland. And of course they would make it work, despite the aridity and the inhospitable landscape, because when it comes to farming and modernity they are extremely competent. Racist and competent, while the blacks were racist and hilariously incompetent. Orania was thriving and, like Israel (which is not a bad comparison), turning the desert green.



(Meanwhile) the ANC was well on its way to reducing a country which, during apartheid, was easily the richest on the continent south of the Sahel (and afforded its black citizens the highest average wage and longest life expectancy in Africa) into a typically corrupt, massively useless, vicious and racist one-party state which is on the verge of civil war and where the blacks are worse off than ever and the whites are being murdered or evicted.


the problem is everyone assumes that when racist systems like apartheid and segregation end, that blacks will thrive.  But that hasn't happened in the US and south Africa.  So it is assumed that racism must still exist, must still be holding them back.  But is it really?

Bricktop

I think its clear that black and white view the world quite differently.



Trying to combine the two is folly.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Wazzzup"This article is harsh, but I believe it really assesses the situation in south Africa, I read the entire thing, something I rarely do.  


QuoteLast time I was in South Africa I spent two weeks deep in the Karoo, that desiccated wasteland in the Northern Cape which is home only to a handful of jackals, the occasional springbok and supporters of the Afrikaaner Resistance Movement. I had been visiting Orania, a smallish town in which no black people are allowed. Set up by the son-in-law of Hendrik Verwoerd, its existence now is very grudgingly protected by the South African government under regulations which preserve minority cultures — ah, the irony.



Didn't the Orania people therefore have a point, I wondered, even if it was one only of self-preservation? The point — a dream, for some of them — was to carve out a new nation for Afrikaaners across a hugely unprofitable swathe of the north of the country, from Kimberley to the coast. A new Boer trek, a new homeland. And of course they would make it work, despite the aridity and the inhospitable landscape, because when it comes to farming and modernity they are extremely competent. Racist and competent, while the blacks were racist and hilariously incompetent. Orania was thriving and, like Israel (which is not a bad comparison), turning the desert green.



(Meanwhile) the ANC was well on its way to reducing a country which, during apartheid, was easily the richest on the continent south of the Sahel (and afforded its black citizens the highest average wage and longest life expectancy in Africa) into a typically corrupt, massively useless, vicious and racist one-party state which is on the verge of civil war and where the blacks are worse off than ever and the whites are being murdered or evicted.


the problem is everyone assumes that when racist systems like apartheid and segregation end, that blacks will thrive.  But that hasn't happened in the US and south Africa.  So it is assumed that racism must still exist, must still be holding them back.  But is it really?

White South Africans don't trust homelands like Orania. Once they become prosperous they too will be confiscated.