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Re: Forum gossip thread by DKG
Started by Blazor, May 11, 2018, 12:34:42 PM
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You mean its not America, but Australia, where guns are illegal, say it isnt so Bricktop!Quote from: "Blazor"https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/family-7-dead-gunshot-wounds-rural-australia-n873301"> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/fami ... ia-n873301">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/family-7-dead-gunshot-wounds-rural-australia-n873301
What this demonstrates clearly is that even when the possession of a firearm is justified as a primary producer with no criminal record, it reverts to a murder weapon in seconds.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Put another way...there is no such thing as a "legal" firearm. Or a safe one.Quote from: "Bricktop"
You mean its not America, but Australia, where guns are illegal, say it isnt so Bricktop!Quote from: "Blazor"https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/family-7-dead-gunshot-wounds-rural-australia-n873301"> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/fami ... ia-n873301">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/family-7-dead-gunshot-wounds-rural-australia-n873301
Guns are not totally forbidden here. Certain types, such as military and military style weapons, heavy calibre semi autos, pistols and others are banned.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Primary producers are permitted firearms for obvious reasons.
And yes...it does include those wielded by police, as events in the US prove when an Australian woman was shot by a muslim cop.
And again with the argument about screwdrivers, tampons and clown masks all being used as murder weapons. Its a specious and evasive argument. These things are not designed or intended to kill. They are adapted, and are not very good at it compared to a device designed for one sole purpose. To kill. Guns have NO other redemptive purpose. You cannot drive them to work. You cannot cut your steak with one. You can't hammer a nail with one. It is an efficient killer. Nothing more or less.
In Brazil, all firearms are required to be registered with the minimum age for gun ownership being 25.[1] It is generally illegal to carry a gun outside a residence, and a special permit granting the right to do so is granted to certain groups, such as law enforcement officers.[2] To legally own a gun, an owner must hold a gun license, which costs BRL R$1000,[2] and pay a fee every three years to register the gun, currently at BRL R$85.[3] Registration can be done online or in person with the Federal Police.[4] Until 2008, unregistered guns could be legalized for free.[5]
In 2005, a majority of Brazil's population voted against banning the sale of guns and ammunition to civilians in a referendum. However,the Brazilian Department of Justice(Ministério da Justiça), which performs each individual's mandatory background check (which is made prior every gun acquisition, and every three years after it is acquired, which allows gun confiscation at the discretion of authorities), have been forbidding almost every citizen from buying guns,[8][9] based on the Executive Order # 5.123, of 07/01/2004 (Decreto n.º 5.123, de 1º de julho de 2004),[10] which allows the Federal Police to analyze the given reasons for owning a gun, under which "self defense" is not considered a valid reasonbecause there are allegedly sufficient public police officers to maintain nationwide security.[11] Thus, disarmament is effectively happening in Brazil,[12] as are massive gun confiscations,[13] notwithstanding its refusal by Brazilian people (at the referendum of 2005). Some argue that this will increase gun homicides. Other research shows that there is a decrease in firearm deaths correlating with disarmament.[14][15] However, 2012 marked the highest rate of gun deaths in 35 years for Brazil 8 years after a ban to carry handguns in public went in to effect.[16]
Conclusion: Gun laws may affect crime rates a bit, but they are nowhere near as important as other factors.Quote
