Here's a topic which may interest DKG and others unless they've already heard about it....The Benner Cycle:
....so if there's any teeth to this theory, then it would suggest, most things slow until at least 2026.
So next couple of years probably won't be very good.
Agree? Disagree?
Comments? Feel free to leave yours here.
...more detailed explanation of the Benner Cycle
Hey shithead, things have been in the toilet for years now. Wake the fuk up! The Dow is as stale as a 3 year old loaf of bread!
Quote from: Lokmar on October 28, 2023, 07:07:02 PMHey shithead, things have been in the toilet for years now. Wake the fuk up! The Dow is as stale as a 3 year old loaf of bread!
I just posted in the Bidenomics thread that I was considering taking the cash instead of the pension. The dismal performance of the markets has made that choice for me. The pension it is.
Quote from: Lokmar on October 28, 2023, 07:07:02 PMHey shithead, things have been in the toilet for years now. Wake the fuk up! The Dow is as stale as a 3 year old loaf of bread!
Well ya bedder save that loaf, Bud!
A stale loaf is better than no loaf.
That's what they found out in Old Mother Russia during the famines.
something....is always better than nothing....Lokmar!
Heckuva lot better than all them bullets yer stashin
Quote from: JOE on October 28, 2023, 11:14:32 PMWell ya bedder save that loaf, Bud!
A stale loaf is better than no loaf.
That's what they found out in Old Mother Russia during the famines.
something....is always better than nothing....Lokmar!
Heckuva lot better than all them bullets yer stashin
So you admit you're a fukin moron. Thanks josephine! Glad to see you know your mental limitations.
Quote from: Lokmar on October 29, 2023, 12:00:26 AMSo you admit you're a fukin moron. Thanks josephine! Glad to see you know your mental limitations.
Jo Jo is adorable.
Kinda makes you want to pinch off a loaf.
Quote from: Lokmar on October 29, 2023, 12:00:26 AMSo you admit you're a fukin moron. Thanks josephine! Glad to see you know your mental limitations.
Well I been buyin gold lately...Lokmar!
Why the other day I bought another shiny new nugget for ya ta glean at as eye candy.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ngccoin-production/world-coin-price-guide/315235b.jpg)
Gold is good for the soul, Bud!
Anyway better n a bullet
Quote from: DKG on October 29, 2023, 11:10:07 AMUm, no.
Im a homophobe DKG
Homos in my city often end up getting AIDS eh
Quote from: JOE on October 30, 2023, 05:32:27 AMWell I been buyin gold lately...Lokmar!
Why the other day I bought another shiny new nugget for ya ta glean at as eye candy.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ngccoin-production/world-coin-price-guide/315235b.jpg)
Gold is good for the soul, Bud!
Anyway better n a bullet
At least buy some coins that will be easy for me to move, josephine.
Quote from: JOE on October 30, 2023, 05:38:43 AMIm a homophobe DKG
Homos in my city often end up getting AIDS eh
Then make sure you and Thiel practice safe sex.
Quote from: JOE on October 30, 2023, 05:32:27 AMWell I been buyin gold lately...Lokmar!
Why the other day I bought another shiny new nugget for ya ta glean at as eye candy.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ngccoin-production/world-coin-price-guide/315235b.jpg)
Gold is good for the soul, Bud!
Anyway better n a bullet
I had a bigger coin collection than Joe when I was in high school.
I am pretty sure that I have two or three of those coins in the picture. It has been years since I pulled my entire collection out of the closet.
Quote from: TheProwler on October 30, 2023, 03:20:56 PMI had a bigger coin collection than Joe when I was in high school.
I am pretty sure that I have two or three of those coins in the picture. It has been years since I pulled my entire collection out of the closet.
Really?
Well you should post some pics of yer collection Prowler.
I'll post some photos of my modest collection in the near future.
BTW, I just consider myself a small-time amateur collector/dabbler, eh?
By no means a Pro.
My gold coin collection is approaching 30 coins and the entire collection is worth maybe $50,000 US or so? But compared to other collections, that'd be considered rather small.
I jes' buy a coin here, a coin there.
Irony is many rare gold coins can be had for less than many collectibles and antiques now. So, I figger what's a better deal? Something made out of paper or a relatively worthless material....or gold?
In the scheme of things, gold seems like a bargain these days by comparison.
If the economy goes inta the shitter like many are expecting it will one day, what's better? Paper assets with imaginary value or gold?
I have a saying, "Gold never gets Old and it can always be Sold."
But that's not necessarily true for other things.
Quote from: JOE on October 30, 2023, 04:39:43 PMReally?
Hey Joe. How's it going with you and Mister Thiel? I missed a few days around the forums and I know how quickly these Canadian Love Stories can progress.
Quote from: Reggie Essent on October 30, 2023, 05:00:05 PMHey Joe. How's it going with you and Mister Thiel? I missed a few days around the forums and I know how quickly these Canadian Love Stories can progress.
You guys have to getta life.
Clearly you have too much time on yer hands.
Why don't you git a job at the corner grocery store?
Give ya somethin ta do.
Be good for ya instead of sittin in the house all day long
Cripes, yer in turnin' inta a buncha Gossipy Gusses.
And here I thought the wimens was bad.
Quote from: JOE on October 30, 2023, 05:03:53 PMYou guys have to getta life.
Clearly you have too much time on yer hands.
Why don't you git a job at the corner grocery store?
Give ya somethin ta do.
Be good for ya instead of sittin in the house all day long
Cripes, yer in turnin' inta a buncha Gossipy Gusses.
And here I thought the wimens was bad.
Gossipy Gusses? So there is some "movement" to the Joe/Thiel affair.
Spill, Joe! You guys talk about you building a Tiny House to likve in at the end of Thiel's driveway? He probably has a safe in the house where he'd let you keep your gold coins for safekeeping.
This is exciting!
You know, you can probably talk to some of the Progs over at BF or VF for some advice on the best kind of chrome-plated three-speed vibrating dildo you should purchase to help you "loosen up" before the first Big Show with Thiel.
Quote from: JOE on October 30, 2023, 04:39:43 PMReally?
Well you should post some pics of yer collection Prowler.
I'll post some photos of my modest collection in the near future.
BTW, I just consider myself a small-time amateur collector/dabbler, eh?
By no means a Pro.
My gold coin collection is approaching 30 coins and the entire collection is worth maybe $50,000 US or so? But compared to other collections, that'd be considered rather small.
I jes' buy a coin here, a coin there.
Irony is many rare gold coins can be had for less than many collectibles and antiques now. So, I figger what's a better deal? Something made out of paper or a relatively worthless material....or gold?
In the scheme of things, gold seems like a bargain these days by comparison.
If the economy goes inta the shitter like many are expecting it will one day, what's better? Paper assets with imaginary value or gold?
I have a saying, "Gold never gets Old and it can always be Sold."
But that's not necessarily true for other things.
You seem to be really paranoid about things going to shit, Joe.
It is a sad way to live, saving a pitiful amount of gold while sacrificing such basic wants like a house to call your own.
I just collected coins as a hobby that I started as a project in Grade 7 or so. I continued to collect into my teens. My collection is probably about 10x the size of your collection, Joe.
Quote from: Reggie Essent on October 30, 2023, 05:00:05 PMHey Joe. How's it going with you and Mister Thiel? I missed a few days around the forums and I know how quickly these Canadian Love Stories can progress.
Quote from: Reggie Essent on October 30, 2023, 05:00:05 PMHey Joe. How's it going with you and Mister Thiel? I missed a few days around the forums and I know how quickly these Canadian Love Stories can progress.
I think the security that Thiel can provide is looking pretty good to broke old Joe.
Quote from: TheProwler on October 30, 2023, 07:30:58 PMYou seem to be really paranoid about things going to shit, Joe.
It is a sad way to live, saving a pitiful amount of gold while sacrificing such basic wants like a house to call your own.
I just collected coins as a hobby that I started as a project in Grade 7 or so. I continued to collect into my teens. My collection is probably about 10x the size of your collection, Joe.
So can you kindly tell us what kind of coin collection you own, Prowler? How much would you estimate that the collection is worth?
Do you have any photos to verify your claims?
Now's your chance to shine, Prowler
Do tell all.
Thank you.
Quote from: JOE on October 30, 2023, 11:45:03 PMSo can you kindly tell us what kind of coin collection you own, Prowler? How much would you estimate that the collection is worth?
Do you have any photos to verify your claims?
Now's your chance to shine, Prowler
Do tell all.
Thank you.
My collection is mainly 17th, 18th, and 19th century coins from Western Europe. But I also have very rare USA and early Canada coins. I would estimate my collection to be worth between $450,000 and $600,000.
Like I said, it was just a hobby of mine in high school.
Nothing to brag about.
Quote from: JOE on October 30, 2023, 11:45:03 PMSo can you kindly tell us what kind of coin collection you own, Prowler? How much would you estimate that the collection is worth?
Do you have any photos to verify your claims?
Now's your chance to shine, Prowler
Do tell all.
Thank you.
Coins again? Who the hell cares.
Think rationally here. You are old and never owned property. You got a potential sugar daddy who is willing to keep your sorry broke ass. All you have to do is what comes natural for you people.
Quote from: Herman on October 31, 2023, 01:31:21 AMCoins again? Who the hell cares.
Joe does, obviously. The rest of us? I'm guessing not so much.
I only ever had two coins I considered collectible. The first (a 1966 minted Australian round 50 cent piece which was withdrawn the following year because it cost more in silver to mint than the 50 cents it represented) I was given as a membership token to a small community of pot smokers back in my early twenties. The second was a commemorative 2020 American Samoa quarter (the wildlife park one with the bats on it) which I had set in a keyfob. I call it my coronacoin.
I could give a fuck what they were worth on the open market, the only value I place in them is what they represent to me. I'm certainly not looking to expand my "collection" anytime soon either and Joe's insistence in populating this forum with thread after thread of "oooh, shiny" denotes a level of obsession I suspect can only be achieved by wearing the kind of jockettes that strangle one's brain.
Quote from: TheProwler on October 31, 2023, 01:22:08 AMMy collection is mainly 17th, 18th, and 19th century coins from Western Europe. But I also have very rare USA and early Canada coins. I would estimate my collection to be worth between $450,000 and $600,000.
Like I said, it was just a hobby of mine in high school.
Nothing to brag about.
Yeah, so what? Do you have any photos?
If you have them, What condition are they in?
Are they even real?
Did you get them certified?
Other than a few Canada issues, Mine are all certified by the NGC, the PGCS and ANACS where they were weighed, assayed, properly photographed and can even be indentified down the last scratch on their websites. Who knows? They've probably been x-rayed too.
BTW, I generally don't buy anything below Mint State (MS 60 and above)
Y'know there are a lotta fakes and replicas out there, right Prowler?
Here's some education you can digest for starters. Skip to 1:25 of the video Prowler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXTa8x5f2OE
especially coins around the periods you've mentioned, there were a lotta fakes, counterfeiting going on. Heck individual banks and trading companies were even issuing their own currency
I would generally avoid coins from that period unless they have been recently certified by NGC or PGCS.
Quote from: TheProwler on October 31, 2023, 01:22:08 AMMy collection is mainly 17th, 18th, and 19th century coins from Western Europe. But I also have very rare USA and early Canada coins. I would estimate my collection to be worth between $450,000 and $600,000.
Like I said, it was just a hobby of mine in high school.
Nothing to brag about.
Joe never matured past grade ten.
Quote from: JOE on October 31, 2023, 07:32:55 AMYeah, so what?
You asked, you dope.
I took some of my collection out last night for the first time in a very long time.
It is actually way bigger than I remembered.
I compared to some of the pricing I could find online and it looks like I severely underestimated the fair market value of my collection.
Quote from: TheProwler on October 31, 2023, 03:01:55 PMYou asked, you dope.
I took some of my collection out last night for the first time in a very long time.
It is actually way bigger than I remembered.
I compared to some of the pricing I could find online and it looks like I severely underestimated the fair market value of my collection.
Are those coins real?
Or are they fakes or replicas, fool?
Why don't you get them properly appraised and assayed for starters, fool?
Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on October 31, 2023, 03:16:47 AMJoe does, obviously. The rest of us? I'm guessing not so much.
One coin I bought this year costs me over $3500 USD. A 1913 Canada C Gold sovereign.
(https://www.svcollector.com/images/usrImage/1295/-big-11-08-2020-14-40-5f32839722c4d.jpg)
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/canada-sovereign-km-20-1911-1919-cuid-1034699-duid-1270115
Its mintage was 3715 and there are supposed to be around just a few hundred left in existence. In the high grade I bought it at there may be 20 or 30 in existence - in the entire world - aka the 4 corners of the earth. That's almost Museum/Smithsonian quality. It is a highly desireable item and it is extremely rare. Much more elusive than a Wayne Gretzky Rookie card ($1 million) or a spiderman #1 comic book ($25,000 and up) imho.
In ten years, the coin will probably be worth more than either of Prowler's overpriced heaps of junk. while his are deprciating assets mine is an appreciating one.
While it's possible to always produce a cheap car made out of plastic and composities, this is not the case with a rare antique/coin made outta gold. They were only made in a limited supply so they can only increase in value.
I suppose it's like comparing a camaro with 1957 Corvette, also made in limited quantities. Which one would you choose as a car collector? I'd take the Corvette myself.
Quote from: JOE on October 31, 2023, 03:26:52 PMAre those coins real?
Or are they fakes or replicas, fool?
Why don't you get them properly appraised and assayed for starters, fool?
They are real, Joe.
I bought them from reputable coin dealers in the 1980's.
I have all the receipts.
I am quite happy that some have increased their value quite dramatically.
I was only interested in these coins as a hobby back in high school.
I did not plan on making so much profit.
I just got lucky.
Quote from: JOE on October 31, 2023, 03:34:47 PMA 1913 Canada C Gold sovereign.
I have at least 3 of those coins in near mint condition. I would have to dig out the rest of my collection to see how many more I have.
Shit, if I put my collection on the market, I think it might negatively impact the market pricing.
Quote from: JOE on October 31, 2023, 03:34:47 PMthan a Wayne Gretzky Rookie card
I actually have a number of Gretzky RC's kicking around. One is PSA 8. I have a number of PSA 7's.
Quote from: JOE on October 31, 2023, 03:34:47 PMIn ten years, the coin will probably be worth more than either of Prowler's overpriced heaps of junk. while his are deprciating assets mine is an appreciating one.
I bought my sports cars as fun forms of transportation, Joe. They are not intended to be money making purchases.
It would be a really sad existence to only spend money on things that are intended to be investments. I would shoot myself in the face if I could not spend money to acquire things that will bring me excitement and enjoyment.
Quote from: JOE on October 31, 2023, 03:34:47 PMI suppose it's like comparing a camaro with 1957 Corvette, also made in limited quantities. Which one would you choose as a car collector? I'd take the Corvette myself.
That is the beauty of being able to choose for yourself.
Personally, I love my 2023 Corvette.
(https://i.imgur.com/BI1oUhf.jpg)
Quote from: TheProwler on October 31, 2023, 05:17:43 PMI have at least 3 of those coins in near mint condition. I would have to dig out the rest of my collection to see how many more I have.
Shit, if I put my collection on the market, I think it might negatively impact the market pricing.
I actually have a number of Gretzky RC's kicking around. One is PSA 8. I have a number of PSA 7's.
I bought my sports cars as fun forms of transportation, Joe. They are not intended to be money making purchases.
It would be a really sad existence to only spend money on things that are intended to be investments. I would shoot myself in the face if I could not spend money to acquire things that will bring me excitement and enjoyment.
That is the beauty of being able to choose for yourself.
Personally, I love my 2023 Corvette.
(https://i.imgur.com/BI1oUhf.jpg)
AND its white... I am in love with it.
Quote from: caskur on October 31, 2023, 05:27:17 PMAND its white... I am in love with it.
It is a lot of fun....
(https://i.imgur.com/sCXpqVv.jpg)
Quote from: caskur on October 31, 2023, 05:27:17 PMAND its white... I am in love with it.
I am cornering at over 1G lateral force here...Joe could never do this in his imaginary '57 Corvette....
(https://i.imgur.com/agZQa87.jpg)
Quote from: TheProwler on October 31, 2023, 05:17:43 PMI have at least 3 of those coins in near mint condition. I would have to dig out the rest of my collection to see how many more I have.
Shit, if I put my collection on the market, I think it might negatively impact the market pricing.
I actually have a number of Gretzky RC's kicking around. One is PSA 8. I have a number of PSA 7's.
I bought my sports cars as fun forms of transportation, Joe. They are not intended to be money making purchases.
It would be a really sad existence to only spend money on things that are intended to be investments. I would shoot myself in the face if I could not spend money to acquire things that will bring me excitement and enjoyment.
That is the beauty of being able to choose for yourself.
Personally, I love my 2023 Corvette.
(https://i.imgur.com/BI1oUhf.jpg)
Hope it doesn't offend you, but I think the camaro is an ugly car, Prowler. And I hear the visibility is poor making safety a concern.
And I've noticed this has been commented upon a lot on the Web and YouTube.
or
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/9b5zzs/the_chevy_camaro_has_been_an_ugly_car_for_years/
QuoteIt's hideous, and most people I've seen who drive them act like they're driving a fucking McLaren. Get over yourself. No one is impressed by your car.
If I paid that much for a car, it should at least be beautiful - like a work of art. But instead the camaro is $100,000+ of sheer ugliness.
shows ya money caint buy you taste.
Ugly dog, ugly car.
Oh well.
Quote from: JOE on October 31, 2023, 06:55:50 PMHope it doesn't offend you, but I think the camaro is an ugly car, Prowler. And I hear the visibility is poor making safety a concern.
And I've noticed this has been commented upon a lot on the Web and YouTube.
or
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/9b5zzs/the_chevy_camaro_has_been_an_ugly_car_for_years/
If I paid that much for a car, it should at least be beautiful - like a work of art. But instead the camaro is $100,000+ of sheer ugliness.
shows ya money caint buy you taste.
Ugly dog, ugly car.
Oh well.
Joe, you loser, this is a Corvette, not a Camaro.
(https://i.imgur.com/3TQGLrf.jpg)
https://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/corvette-2023
10/10
Read it and weep, Joe.
Hahaha!!!!
Quote from: TheProwler on October 31, 2023, 10:18:21 PMhttps://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/corvette-2023
10/10
Read it and weep, Joe.
Hahaha!!!!
So what?
You spent your money on a depreciating asset.
Some cars like this one actually increase in value:
(https://photos.classiccars.com/cc-temp/listing/178/3380/42434745-1957-chevrolet-corvette-thumb.jpg)
A car like the above can actually make the owner money.
ie - photoshoots. Movies. But you wouldn't know that since you live in the middle of nowhere where nothing goes on.
Personally, I wouldn't waste my money on a depreciating asset.
PLUS...there are always better cars coming out all the time which will supersede it. Cars with few redeeming qualities like yours have little value once they become obsolete. Just like yesterday's computer that ends up in the bargain bin.
Quote from: TheProwler on October 31, 2023, 05:17:43 PMIt would be a really sad existence to only spend money on things that are intended to be investments. I would shoot myself in the face if I could not spend money to acquire things that will bring me excitement and enjoyment.
Quote from: JOE on October 31, 2023, 10:58:15 PMYou spent your money on a depreciating asset.
Quote from: JOE on October 31, 2023, 10:58:15 PMPersonally, I wouldn't waste my money on a depreciating asset.
Money is a tool to buy things that can bring pleasure.
It is amazing that you are so obsessed with money, and you are poor.
You are truly pathetic, Senile Joe.
Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on October 31, 2023, 03:16:47 AMI only ever had two coins I considered collectible. The first (a 1966 minted Australian round 50 cent piece which was withdrawn the following year because it cost more in silver to mint than the 50 cents it represented) I was given as a membership token to a small community of pot smokers back in my early twenties. The second was a commemorative 2020 American Samoa quarter (the wildlife park one with the bats on it) which I had set in a keyfob. I call it my coronacoin.
I could give a fuck what they were worth on the open market, the only value I place in them is what they represent to me. I'm certainly not looking to expand my "collection" anytime soon either and Joe's insistence in populating this forum with thread after thread of "oooh, shiny" denotes a level of obsession I suspect can only be achieved by wearing the kind of jockettes that strangle one's brain.
Actually, you make some good points, Ollie.
I might unload this collection one day.
It's starting to become to large and unwieldy.
At some point, it might be wise to downsize and sell at least most of the collection.
I see whatcha mean about favorite coins - whatever actual value they may be.
I have 2 which aren't really that valuable other than the gold (too common), but they look so good that's the reason I might hang onta them an git rid of the pricier items.
I know Americans really like this one:
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-vQAAOSwv9pkJaHz/s-l1600.jpg)
And they buy a lot of them.
This one is also quite popular but I think it's more scarce and harder ta find:
(https://www.svcollector.com/images/usrImage/1471/-big-30-09-2020-11-20-5f743fb41e92b.jpg)
The other is the Kennedy Gold plated 1/2 Dollar. Not terribly valuable, but it looks good too.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c9/15/47/c915472110bae65b592fbf5784de78a8.jpg)
I gotta growing vintage American comic book & magazine collection too. That might also be on the auction block one day too.
These things are nice to own for a limited period of time, but I'm starting to think that they need an exit strategy. In other words, don't hold 'em, jes fold em, sell 'em & get out.
Quote from: TheProwler on October 31, 2023, 10:15:37 PMJoe, you loser, this is a Corvette, not a Camaro.
(https://i.imgur.com/3TQGLrf.jpg)
The guy who pretends he drives for a living can't tell the difference between a Camaro and a Corvette. :crampe:
Quote from: Herman on November 01, 2023, 04:35:37 AMThe guy who pretends he drives for a living can't tell the difference between a Camaro and a Corvette. :crampe:
Actually Herm as a Chauffeur I drove the very wealthy in much more expensive cars than the Prowler's hunk of junk. Other than the odd comfortable ride or sexy woman in the 'em, I don't really like cars that much. Having to worry about taking care of and guarding an expensive car feels like an anvil around one's neck. It's just a big paperweight I couldn't wait to get rid of at the end of the night when the shift was over.
My dream car is something very low cost, low maintenance, low gas/fuel/electricity whatever. The less you spend on those things the better. I don't drive to run people off the road. That's how drivers often kill or get killed on the road in my city.
Aggressive drivers are very dangerous imho & should be charged to the full extent of the law.
Joe should stick to keeping his internals fully lubed so
ThielT and aggressively drive and service him.
Quote from: JOE on November 01, 2023, 09:02:11 AMMy dream car is something very low cost, low maintenance, low gas/fuel/electricity whatever.
Actually Joe, I have always found the idea of buying a small car like a Chevy Spark to be an attractive option for getting around town.
My obstacle has been garage space (I have too many vehicles).
What is stopping you?
Quote from: TheProwler on November 01, 2023, 12:46:16 PMActually Joe, I have always found the idea of buying a small car like a Chevy Spark to be an attractive option for getting around town.
My obstacle has been garage space (I have too many vehicles).
What is stopping you?
Well Prowler, for one, I'm thinking of getting back inta skiing again. However...the road up to Whistler and other mountains requires a stronger, toughter, hardier vehicle. Someone told me that they went out in the country recently with a relatively new small FIAT and it broke down. maybe a lot of city cars just don't have the horsepower to drive in the country.
It's expensive to ski y'know. But a person also needs a better car as well. and unlike a Spark or similarly small car that's pricey. It's not just the ski equipment, it's the transportation to get up there. So, if I bought a small car, I might have to buy another car eventually. Just weighing my options at the moment. No point in having to spend 2 times down the road instead of just once doing it right the first time.
Quote from: JOE on October 31, 2023, 06:55:50 PMHope it doesn't offend you, but I think the camaro is an ugly car, Prowler. And I hear the visibility is poor making safety a concern.
And I've noticed this has been commented upon a lot on the Web and YouTube.
or
If I paid that much for a car, it should at least be beautiful - like a work of art. But instead the camaro is $100,000+ of sheer ugliness.
shows ya money caint buy you taste.
Ugly dog, ugly car.
Oh well.
josephine, I own and race a ZLE and have never heard a single person say its ugly. It does ride like shit tho. Visibility is poor out of the back window due to the wang.
I lap the fuck outta mustang GT350's at the track all day long.
Quote from: Lokmar on November 01, 2023, 07:07:10 PMjosephine, I own and race a ZLE and have never heard a single person say its ugly. It does ride like shit tho. Visibility is poor out of the back window due to the wang.
I lap the fuck outta mustang GT350's at the track all day long.
You have a significant other, a home, and you saved for retirement. Joe has a gay man on a forum who wants to make him his wife.
Quote from: TheProwler on November 01, 2023, 12:46:16 PMan attractive option for getting around town.
Quote from: JOE on November 01, 2023, 06:35:45 PMthe road up to Whistler and other mountains requires a stronger, toughter, hardier vehicle
"Getting around town"
NOT
"Driving up mountains"
I have a "Trail Rated" Jeep Grand Cherokee, Joe.
I am starting to understand why you are so jealous of me.
Quote from: Lokmar on November 01, 2023, 07:07:10 PMjosephine, I own and race a ZLE and have never heard a single person say its ugly. It does ride like shit tho. Visibility is poor out of the back window due to the wang.
I lap the fuck outta mustang GT350's at the track all day long.
Hey Lokmar, do not judge me. This was my first time at the track with my Corvette. I did not push it...I am just getting a feel for it.
I ran a Porsche off the road in this clip....
Quote from: TheProwler on November 02, 2023, 12:37:03 AMHey Lokmar, do not judge me. This was my first time at the track with my Corvette. I did not push it...I am just getting a feel for it.
I ran a Porsche off the road in this clip....
Very difficult to judge from these videos anyway, especially without knowing the track first hand.
Now I had this same problem, still do, but knowing the nannies are there to save your ass makes you (and me) get stabby with the throttle coming out of the slow corners and the TC kicks in to keep the ass from coming around. I have this problem in turn 7 at Putnam Park where speeds are slow enough that the wang loses downforce. If I could offer some constructive criticism, practice easing into the throttle, trying to keep the TC from helping you. Eventually, you'll want to turn the nannies all off or go into Sport 2 (I'm assuming you're in Sport1 or Dry mode?). It looks to me like you're doing real good hitting the apex of the corners!
Cars (rear engine) like the C8 and Porsche have to get slowed down before turning into the corners and then feed the power in gradually due to understeer and then can come off the corner pretty hard to get good exit speed because of the weight over the rear tires. Enter too fast or feed power too soon and you get what happened to the guy in the Porsche.
The ZLE drives the opposite. I can ramrod it into the corner at a higher speed than most rear engine cars because both breaking and the weight of the engine increase the front grip when the weight transitions. My exit speed suffers though because the back of the car is light and feeding the power back in takes a lighter touch. If I hit the nannies, the car backs power way down and my lap times suffer. With Porsches, I typically just about rear end them going into the corners but they pull out of the corner on me a bit.
I bought a pair of Sparco racing shoes which helped me feel the cars rotation much better.
It's just another bubble, Frood.
The other bubble is AI.
The Venture capitalists are always looking for something to invest in and make a buck and increase the prices of stocks for shareholders. And if one bubble pops and fails, then they look for another.
Meanwhile, the sales of EV's are pretty flat these days and word has it the lots are full of unsold EV's.
Quote from: JOE on November 02, 2023, 02:17:46 AMIt's just another bubble, Frood.
The other bubble is AI.
The Venture capitalists are always looking for something to invest in and make a buck and increase the prices of stocks for shareholders. And if one bubble pops and fails, then they look for another.
Meanwhile, the sales of EV's are pretty flat these days and word has it the lots are full of unsold EV's.
You're responding to the incorrect poster, Joe.
I fear your gay proclivities and desires towards
ThielT are clouding your logic and reading comprehension abilities.
JUST
LET
THIEL
INTO
YOUR
LOVING
COCK
CAVE
Quote from: DKG on November 01, 2023, 09:14:43 PMYou have a significant other, a home, and you saved for retirement. Joe has a gay man on a forum who wants to make him his wife.
I am looking for a Retirement Planner.
You claimed that you're a CFP.
However, your demeanour on this forum leads me to believe that this not the case.
You don't seem very professional.
But if you really are in fact a CFP, you just talked yourself out of a job and some lucrative commissions.
Gotta go elsewhere for advice from a real professional I'm afraid.
Maybe this guy is better than you, DKG:
Oh well, there's always someone more qualified who can step up to the plate.
don't bite the hand that feeds you DKG.
Did you mean that reply to DKG or somebody completely different?
Thiel is under your skin....
And I reckon it's a delightful warmth which is causing all of these gaping openings of yours...
Quote from: TheProwler on November 02, 2023, 12:31:14 AM"Getting around town"
NOT
"Driving up mountains"
I have a "Trail Rated" Jeep Grand Cherokee, Joe.
I am starting to understand why you are so jealous of me.
I don't know what old Thiel sees in Joe.
Quote from: Herman on November 02, 2023, 04:30:25 AMI don't know what old Thiel sees in Joe.
A cherry asshole?
:crampe:
Quote from: Frood on November 02, 2023, 03:12:13 AMDid you mean that reply to DKG or somebody completely different?
Thiel is under your skin....
And I reckon it's a delightful warmth which is causing all of these gaping openings of yours...
Well DKG claims he's a CFP .
Since you live in Australia, maybe you don't know what that means.
In Canada, it's called a Certified Financial Planner.
They take care of retirement planning.
I don't know what the equivalent is in Australia tho
But....did you fuck up and address the wrong person because you were daydreaming about Thiel and yourself dirty dancing between the sheets, Joe?
Quote from: Lokmar on November 02, 2023, 01:05:28 AMVery difficult to judge from these videos anyway, especially without knowing the track first hand.
Now I had this same problem, still do, but knowing the nannies are there to save your ass makes you (and me) get stabby with the throttle coming out of the slow corners and the TC kicks in to keep the ass from coming around. I have this problem in turn 7 at Putnam Park where speeds are slow enough that the wang loses downforce. If I could offer some constructive criticism, practice easing into the throttle, trying to keep the TC from helping you. Eventually, you'll want to turn the nannies all off or go into Sport 2 (I'm assuming you're in Sport1 or Dry mode?). It looks to me like you're doing real good hitting the apex of the corners!
Cars (rear engine) like the C8 and Porsche have to get slowed down before turning into the corners and then feed the power in gradually due to understeer and then can come off the corner pretty hard to get good exit speed because of the weight over the rear tires. Enter too fast or feed power too soon and you get what happened to the guy in the Porsche.
The ZLE drives the opposite. I can ramrod it into the corner at a higher speed than most rear engine cars because both breaking and the weight of the engine increase the front grip when the weight transitions. My exit speed suffers though because the back of the car is light and feeding the power back in takes a lighter touch. If I hit the nannies, the car backs power way down and my lap times suffer. With Porsches, I typically just about rear end them going into the corners but they pull out of the corner on me a bit.
I bought a pair of Sparco racing shoes which helped me feel the cars rotation much better.
The mode I had it on is Track mode....but I have options under that...three levels of TC depending on the "Performance Mode" that you pick...I had it totally on because I am just getting used to the car. I really should have taken it off for a few laps; I will sometime in the future. Then I can practice your advice. I think I will only be heading to the track about once a year.
I have had TC off on city streets (with no traffic around) and when the wheels break loose, it is very manageable.
Quote from: JOE on November 02, 2023, 02:38:49 AMI am looking for a Retirement Planner.
Joe is in his early 70's.
Time to start planning for retirement!!!!
Quote from: TheProwler on November 02, 2023, 09:03:25 PMJoe is in his early 70's.
Time to start planning for retirement!!!!
:crampe:
Quote from: TheProwler on November 02, 2023, 09:03:25 PMJoe is in his early 70's.
Time to start planning for retirement!!!!
Your investments in the stock market will crash in the near future, Prowler. If you bought at or near the peak you have nowhere else to go but down.
The economic forecasts aren't good these days, Prowler.
Apparently the stock market isn't performing that well.
However, since I'm sitting mostly in cash I'll swoop in when your investments take a plunge.
Is that a deal?
Quote from: DKG on November 02, 2023, 10:20:43 PM:crampe:
I'm seeking out investment advice from a real professional soon.
Like this guy, DKG:
So No Candy for you.
Sorry DKG. You just don't make the grade.
But don't bite the hand that feeds you, eh.
Quote from: Frood on November 02, 2023, 05:43:41 PMBut....did you fuck up and address the wrong person because you were daydreaming about Thiel and yourself dirty dancing between the sheets, Joe?
Well, Thiel's future bitch?
Quote from: JOE on November 02, 2023, 10:33:25 PMYour investments in the stock market will crash in the near future, Prowler. If you bought at or near the peak you have nowhere else to go but down.
The economic forecasts aren't good these days, Prowler.
Apparently the stock market isn't performing that well.
However, since I'm sitting mostly in cash I'll swoop in when your investments take a plunge.
Is that a deal?
I am invested in solid companies who are making excellent ROE. The dividends flow in regardless of the stock price.
My wife and I withdrew about $100K from our investments so far this year (for living expenses) and the net value of our investments still went up by about $145K.
So net we gained about $245K this year alone.
Are you sure the stock market is not performing well?
Quote from: TheProwler on November 03, 2023, 03:21:25 AMI am invested in solid companies who are making excellent ROE. The dividends flow in regardless of the stock price.
My wife and I withdrew about $100K from our investments so far this year (for living expenses) and the net value of our investments still went up by about $145K.
So net we gained about $245K this year alone.
Are you sure the stock market is not performing well?
How would we know? He didn't invest when he was young. Hell, he is like seventy and he he is talking about buying his first ever property. :crazy: